[SomeHairyOldGuy]

i finally got highspeed and wanted to start using OE for my email. When I goto open OE i get that error? IS there a simple patch i can DL to get it fixxed.
Thanks,
SHOG

[CaptainK]

Hi Shog,
I am not sure of what the exact error message you got was but check this out for starters:
Microsoft Knowledge Base
This may get you pointed inthe right direction for a solution.

HTH,
CaptK

[Poseidon]

Hey SHOG!!!

just type MSOE.DLL in Google and click the link of your choice. Looks like all you have to do is add that file in the right place and you will be all set!

[SomeHairyOldGuy]

Thanks guys. I think Scott needs to start a "Software/Hardware Help Forum" on Reefland just for me! I ended up just running a selective recovery on the my whole comp and now my machine runs better all around.
Thanks again,
SHOG

[drlowz]

Scary thought of SOMEHAIRYOLDGUY being a PIMP DADDY......lol

[SomeHairyOldGuy]

Originally Posted by drlowz

Scary thought of SOMEHAIRYOLDGUY being a PIMP DADDY......lol

LOL! I agree. Actually 28 years and not hairy...
SHOG

[scubadude]

Wasssuppp!

Dude I just spent the past hour cleaning my computer I dunno if you have the same problem but there is a Worm (Virus) out that is affecting email, it has tripled my email load lately and its pretty nasty heres a link to the fix

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...varg.a@mm.html

Rocky

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by scubadude

Wasssuppp!

Dude I just spent the past hour cleaning my computer I dunno if you have the same problem but there is a Worm (Virus) out that is affecting email, it has tripled my email load lately and its pretty nasty heres a link to the fix

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...varg.a@mm.html

Rocky

Rocky,

Interesting reading. I know extremely little about computers but I know for sure that I received two of those emails yesterday. Both had the subject: Mail Transaction Failed. Both had the same message about a binary attachment. Both claim to have come from another reefkeeping bulletin board that I rarely visit. In other words the emails claimed that my email to that board had failed, I guess. The return path showed the name of the board, which is how I figured that out. Of course I didn't send any emails to that board so I went back to that board yesterday for the first time in months and discovered that it did not automatically recognize me. I checked my User CP and discovered that somehow my email address was no longer hidden from public view. Is it possible that the administrators of that board made some changes that automatically reset everyone's options to a default mode??? I changed all of my options back to where I had previously set them. I did not notify the board's administrator but I probably should have. What is the solution to a situation like this? Since I rarely visit that particular board, should I ask that my name and all of my information be de-listed? How does one go about becoming an un-member once one has registered to a board? (P.S. -- The board in question was The Reef Tank in case any of you has had the same experience.)

Fortunately I had already read something about that worm before I received those two emails and I deleted them without opening any attachments. I never open attachments unless I am expecting them from someone I trust and even then I refuse to read or open anything that has been forwarded to a whole list of people. That's something that really gets me upset and is why I had to change my email address and restrict it's distribution. Even after I changed my email address the last time it has been compromised at least four times already: Once by an online coral farmer guy who emailed his availability list to all of his customers without hiding the email addresses from each other. In other words, everyone who received that email could see the email addresses of all the others on the list. And the same thing from one relative and two board member friends who forwarded "jokes" to a couple dozen of their "pals" with the email addresses of everyone receiving the message visible for all the others to see. I mentioned this to one of the "guilty" parties and offended him. He definitely didn't think it was such a big deal and was offended that I would even think that any of his other friends might misuse my email address information. Maybe that's because he hasn't had to deal with 100+ spam emails a day like I did before I finally changed my email address and removed it from view on all of the boards.

Oh, well...

[scubadude]

Originally Posted by Ninong

Rocky,
......

Once by an online coral farmer guy who emailed his availability list to all of his customers without hiding the email addresses from each other

That wasnt me was it?

Originally Posted by Ninong

Maybe that's because he hasn't had to deal with 100+ spam emails a day like I did before I finally changed my email address and removed it from view on all of the boards.

Oh, well...

I know exactly what you are talking about....Im thankful that I have the opurtunity to be at my computer many times a day because of the amount of email I get (95% junk of course...paris hilton sex, and enlarge yer johnson stuff)

The worm thats going around my wife told me about and said it was on the news the other nite, the bad part about this worm is that it will email alot of ppl in your address book and infect them and they will in turn turn around and mass email you probably (because you are in their addy book) so if you think about the dynamics of this its pretty effeccient (or ingenious if yer one of them sick MoFo's). The good news is supposedly it will all stop Feb. 14th. but until then we will be getting errors from ppl in our addy book more than likely unless everyone goes to the above link and fixes this worm. I usually look at the email addresses and if I didnt recognize them then they would get flagged then I would look at the topic and flagg them if they are obviously junk...but this worm has alot of crap from familiar email addys which goes to show you how effective these virus's/worms are getting. This worm is sucking down some major bandwidth on the net right now im sure.

Ninong,
I didnt read all of it....do you actually have to open the file to get infected? I know some of them dont require opening now. I know if you are in someones addy book that is infected then you will get the emails, atleast thats the way I understood it.

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by scubadude

That wasnt me was it?

No. It was from the really nice guy who sold me my live rock. It was his very first experience sending out an email to his customers and he just listed several dozen names one behind the other so that everybody could see everybody else's email address. One of his customers who was even more upset about this than I was called this little faux pas to his attention toute suite. He only did that once.

I know exactly what you are talking about....Im thankful that I have the opurtunity to be at my computer many times a day because of the amount of email I get (95% junk of course...paris hilton sex, and enlarge yer johnson stuff)

I made the mistake of having my email address available on seven different reefkeeping bulletin boards, including the one in Australia. That's how it got picked up by those mining programs. I was getting at least 30 offers a day to refinance my mortgage besides the other stuff. They would come in waves. Sometimes I would get the exact same message from 10 or 15 different sources all in the same day. Somebody's getting rich scamming those poor suckers into thinking they can get rich acting as brokers for semi-legitimate finance companies. Somebody's probably selling them a million names or something. Only problem is that they're selling the same names to probably hundreds of different suckers who are all spamming the same list with the same message.

I didnt read all of it....do you actually have to open the file to get infected? I know some of them dont require opening now. I know if you are in someones addy book that is infected then you will get the emails, atleast thats the way I understood it.

The first email that came through was higher up the list, so to speak, so I was able to delete it without even reading any of it. Then about an hour later I received a second one and it was the only incoming email at the time so it was open when I looked at my Outlook Express. I did not click on the stupid attachment but I did read the entire message. I'm definitely not infected with anything because I re-scanned my computer right after that just to be sure. I'm subscribed to all that Symantec security stuff and they just keep sending me upgrades and virus alerts and whatever else it is that I am constantly loading. I don't know all that much about it because my sister ordered all of that stuff when we ordered our new computers last year. We have all three computers hooked up together with a router so that we use the one cable connection, which is in my room. I know we have firewalls and stuff like that but don't ask me how they work.

[Reefland]

Originally Posted by Ninong

Both claim to have come from another reefkeeping bulletin board that I rarely visit. In other words the emails claimed that my email to that board had failed, I guess. The return path showed the name of the board, which is how I figured that out. Of course I didn't send any emails to that board so I went back to that board yesterday for the first time in months and discovered that it did not automatically recognize me. I checked my User CP and discovered that somehow my email address was no longer hidden from public view. Is it possible that the administrators of that board made some changes that automatically reset everyone's options to a default mode??? I changed all of my options back to where I had previously set them. I did not notify the board's administrator but I probably should have. What is the solution to a situation like this? Since I rarely visit that particular board, should I ask that my name and all of my information be de-listed? How does one go about becoming an un-member once one has registered to a board? (P.S. -- The board in question was The Reef Tank in case any of you has had the same experience.)

Fortunately I had already read something about that worm before I received those two emails and I deleted them without opening any attachments. I never open attachments unless I am expecting them from someone I trust and even then I refuse to read or open anything that has been forwarded to a whole list of people. That's something that really gets me upset and is why I had to change my email address and restrict it's distribution. Even after I changed my email address the last time it has been compromised at least four times already: Once by an online coral farmer guy who emailed his availability list to all of his customers without hiding the email addresses from each other. In other words, everyone who received that email could see the email addresses of all the others on the list. And the same thing from one relative and two board member friends who forwarded "jokes" to a couple dozen of their "pals" with the email addresses of everyone receiving the message visible for all the others to see. I mentioned this to one of the "guilty" parties and offended him. He definitely didn't think it was such a big deal and was offended that I would even think that any of his other friends might misuse my email address information. Maybe that's because he hasn't had to deal with 100+ spam emails a day like I did before I finally changed my email address and removed it from view on all of the boards.

Oh, well...

The funny thing about e-mails is unless you look at the header information, the "From" line can be decieving and even looking at the headers can be decieving depending on who the e-mail server is hosted by. For example, on a server that has multiple sites on it, you may look at the header information and see a server name that you may not recognize. Unless the person sending the e-mail is on a dedicated server running their own e-mails, the header information can be irrelavant. However if you look at the header information and see soemthing like jupiter.reefland.com then you can be certain that the e-mail came through the server that that site is hosted on.

Regarding your public information on Bulletin Boards, yes, it is very possible and very easy to do, although unfair and sneaky in my opinion. It can be done en mass by running a couple of quick queries (changing everyone from one thing to another) or manually on an individual basis.

The good thing about bulletin boards like Reefland is you can leave your e-mail address "public" here but no one can see it. If I have my e-mail address to be publicly viewed on the board and someone clicks to send me an e-mail, it does not display my e-mail address but gives the user a form they can complete which sends me an e-mail; your e-mail address is never viewable by anyone and therefore cannot be captured by spidering bots sent out to collect e-mail address to send SPAM.

Scott Z.

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by Reefland

Regarding your public information on Bulletin Boards, yes, it is very possible and very easy to do, although unfair and sneaky in my opinion. It can be done en mass by running a couple of quick queries (changing everyone from one thing to another) or manually on an individual basis.

Scott Z.

Scott,

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying here. Are you simply saying that it is possible for spiders to harvest visible email addresses from boards, something I understand, or are you saying that it is possible for an outsider to actually change everyone's profile options so that their previously hidden email address is no longer hidden???

I am positive that I set up all of my profiles on all of the boards the same and on all of them my new email address was hidden. When I just checked back with The Reef Tank all of my profile settings were different and not the same as they are on the other boards and definitely not the way I set them up originally or the way I changed them in my last modification.

This particular worm pretends to be an email error message telling you that your email to a certain address was undeliverable. They may simply take the email address from your address book but I'm not sure about that now that I found out that my profile settings on The Reef Tank had somehow mysteriously changed. It seems more likely that they took my email address from The Reef Tank and not from my computer's email address book.

[Reefland]

I am saying that anyone with the correct permissions on a board (administrator or moderator) has the ability to change your options. An administrator or moderator can do it manually by changing one user at a time or an administrator can run some queries on the database to change a number of users at one time. Obviously this should never be done but it can be.