[Ninong]

Aug. 23 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. Senators Norm Coleman, Republican of Minnesota and Mel Martinez, Republican of Florida, said a call by U.S. televangelist Pat Robertson for the U.S. government to assassinate Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez was ``irresponsible'' and ``incredibly stupid.''

The senators, visiting Brazil to meet with government and business leaders, spoke with reporters today in Rio de Janeiro.

``It was an incredibly stupid statement and has no reflection on reality,'' said Coleman, the chairman of the Senate's Foreign Relations subcommittee on the western hemisphere. ``I met with President Chavez on my last visit a couple of months ago and he related that concern to me, about how the U.S. was out to assassinate him. I told him not to lose any sleep about it.''

Robertson, a television evangelist, said yesterday on a broadcast of his ``700 Club'' program that Chavez is a ``dangerous enemy.'' He said killing Chavez would be cheaper than going to war to remove him.

``We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come to exercise that ability,'' Robertson said.

Don't tell me they're just figuring that out? He's been irresponsible and incredibly stupid all his life, even when his name was Marion. John Wayne's name used to be Marion but he changed it to something more macho-sounding. That's why Pat changed his name. He said it didn't sound quite "right," if you know what I mean.

Anyway, Pat has now called for the assassination of Senators Coleman and Martinez.

[Ninong]

Pat Robertson made this incredible claim on The 700 Club program today:

"I was misinterpreted by the AP, but that happens all the time."

This is what Pat actually said on The 700 Club on August 22nd:

“You know, I don’t know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we’re trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It’s a whole lot cheaper than starting a war… We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability. We don’t need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator. It’s a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with.”

You can watch the video of Pat making that statement here.

Pat now says that he never said any such thing. It's all the AP's fault. They misinterpreted his comments. All he was talking about was a harmless little kidnapping, that's all.

Pat said on today's program that the United States should consider "kidnapping" to take out this "dictator."

P.S. -- Chavez was elected. And it wasn't a "mandate" of 51%, he got 70% of the vote.

P.P.S. -- Maybe it's time to ship this blithering idiot off to the funny farm?

[Ninong]

I've searched under "assassination," under hit squads, and under kidnapping but I can't find it. Surely it must be in there somewhere. I'm searching the King James version. Is that the one Pat uses or is that the one used by those "spirit of the Antichrist" Episcopalians?

So where in the Bible does Jesus say we should send in hit squads to assassinate or kidnap the democratically elected leaders of other countries?

[Ninong]

I decided to ask the expert himself: http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/...tOn/askpat.asp

Here is the question I sent in:

I can't seem to find a verse in the Bible where Jesus instructs us to send in hit squads to assassinate or kidnap a democratically elected "dictator" of another country just because we disagree with his politics.

Can you please help me find a verse that I can use on my freedom-hating, commie liberal brother-in-law who says Jesus doesn't condone murder?

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by Ninong

Pat Robertson supports murderous dictators:

Especially when he has $8 million invested in a sweetheart deal with the murderous dictator's government: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/...in562915.shtml

Pat was outraged that we asked Charles Taylor to step down because he has $8 million invested in a gold mining venture with the Liberian government.

Pat usually likes dictators, especially if they're his business partners:

“How dare the president of the United States say to the duly elected president of another country, 'You've got to step down,'" Robertson said Monday on “The 700 Club,” broadcast from his Christian Broadcasting Network.

Charles Taylor was such a warm and wonderful human being. Pat was outraged! Appalled that we would ask a "Christian, Baptist president" to step down. It was a miscarriage of justice that he was convicted of all those war crimes by the U.N. All those thousands of people he had murdered and tortured probably had it comin' to 'em. Just like Orlando deserves to be wiped out by hurricanes.

Here's the dope on Pat's special friend, Charles Taylor: http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/42.html

Pat isn't exactly two-faced, he really has only one face and it's pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain just what a lunatic this sleazeball really is.

[Ninong]

"Is it right to call for assassination? No, and I apologize for that statement." -- Pat Robertson, August 24, 2005, only hours after he insisted that he never called for the assassination of the President of Venezuela.

He has not yet apologized for suggesting in October 2003 that the State Department be blown up with a nuclear device. And most people do not expect him to apologize for saying that feminism encourages women to “kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.”

In fact, there are so many vitriolic statements that have spewed forth from this crackpot over the years that apologizing for all of them would leave him with very little time to tend to his gold mining investments.

P.S. -- Now that Pat has apologized for something he really said but insisted he never said, do you think he will apologize for complaining about things that Senator Boxer never said but that he has repeatedly insisted that she did? I think this apologizing stuff is too new to Pat to expect too much all at once.

[Ninong]

Sources say that God told Pat that he would have to assassinate Chavez himself if he wanted him "taken out" because God was too busy directing hurricanes and "meteors" at Disneyworld.

They will know we are Christians by our love, by our love!

My favorite lovely sayings of the lovely founder of the "Christian" Coalition:

"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it. It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war." (I think this is against one of those Commandments.)

On gay days at Disneyworld: "I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you... It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." (I like that last little flourish at the end -- a meteor! It's meteorite, you moron. A meteor burns up completely in the atmosphere before striking earth. If you want to really take them out, pray for a comet or a sizeable asteroid. That should do it.)

"What we need is for somebody to place a small nuke at Foggy Bottom." (They placed a small nuke at the U.N. instead. His name is John Bolton.)

"[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism -- everything that the Bible condemns." (It's too late to donate to the Eric Rudolph defense fund.)

Feminism is a "socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians." (Pat says that he has never placed a woman in charge of a man in his organization and that he never allows women to teach men but he's concerned that the new Iraqi constitution should provide equal rights for women because "many in this country feel strongly about that." Not him personally, but "many.")

"Pat Robertson accused President Bush of ‘undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels’ by asking Liberian President Charles Taylor, recently indicted for war crimes, to step down.” "How dare the president of the United States say to the duly elected president of another country, 'You've got to step down.'" (Obviously this only applies to duly elected mass murderers who are doing business with Pat and does not apply to duly elected socialists in Latin American countries where Pat has no gold mining or diamond mining interests. Pat was doing business with this good Christian, Baptist war criminal who was convicted as a mass murderer and torturer of thousands.)

"One justice is 83 years old, another has cancer and another has a heart condition. Would it not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire?" (Keep it up Pat, it's working. One of them already retired because her husband is seriously ill and another one is about to check out due to thyroid cancer. Pray harder! Maybe one of them will have a stroke.)

"Well they can interpret it any way they want to. I'm talking to God, and it's up to Him to make a decision and if some of these folks don't like what I'm praying for and want to pray the other way -- have at it! Let the Lord decide." (Stop praying for hurricanes!)

"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them." (Way to go Pat, that's the Christian spirit. Love thy neighbor but don't be nice to 'em! How about sending in a hit squad to take them out?)

"[Separation of church and state] was never in the Constitution. However much the liberals laugh at me for saying it, they know good and well it was never in the Constitution! Such language only appeared in the constitution of the communist Soviet Union." (Fortunately the Supreme Court doesn't agree with you on that one, Pat. No wonder you hate those Supremes so much. And Pat, if I were you, I wouldn't trust this new guy all that much. He's beginning to look a lot like Souter!)

"Individual Christians are the only ones really---and Jewish people, those who trust God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob--are the only ones that are qualified to have the reign, because hopefully, they will be governed by God and submit to Him." (Translation: Invade the Middle East and convert them from Islam to Christianity.)


"There can be no unity between Christianity and other religions listed, because they do not believe that Jesus Christ is 'the truth' and the only way to be reconciled with God." (Pat has never claimed to be a uniter but he's certainly a pretty good divider.)

"The courts are merely a ruse, if you will, for humanist, atheistic educators to beat up on Christians." (All court decisions that Pat disagrees with should be overturned by ad hoc bills passed by the Republican-controlled Congress.)

"...schizophrenia can be a mental disease, but it can also be caused by demon possession. I have personally cast out demons of persons at least on two occasions." (What about all those demons in the video games, don't forget about casting those out, too!)

[zhenya]

Talking about terroristic aproach to settle the difference in opinion or beliefs...



Someone should really tell him that praying for violent end of other humans is not what Jesus Christ preached...
Why is calling himself a Chistian? Isn't there anything else a person could be praying about, besides the terrorist threats that is?

[Ninong]

From the BBC:

The Rev Ted Haggard, president of the National Association of Evangelicals, wants to distance American Christians from the remarks of a tele-evangelist.

Pat Robertson earlier this week called for Mr Chavez to be "taken out".

The remark was interpreted as a demand for his assassination. Mr Robertson has apologised for his choice of words.

Mr Haggard says he wants to meet Mr Chavez face to face and apologise for Mr Robertson's remarks.

He also wants to secure assurances about the safety of American evangelical missionaries working in Venezuela.

Mr Haggard is in Mexico, where he is meeting a friend of Mr Chavez. If that encounter goes well, the leader of America's evangelical churches will travel on to Caracas for a meeting which is bound to embarrass the White House.

It will also provide Chavez with an opportunity to play the good guy and poke Bush in the eye again. Of course he will guarantee the safety of evangelical missionaries working in Venezuela, not that they're in any danger to begin with. Maybe if the White House had come out and actually condemned Robertson's outrageous remarks, they wouldn't be facing this little predicament right now of having their so-called "base" fighting amongst themselves. Now Chavez is going to get more air-time courtesy of the religious right.

It's only natural that Chavez doesn't like Bush. Bush supported the military coup that almost overthrew him. In fact, Bush issued a statement of congratulations a bit prematurely because the coup failed within two or three days once the military realized that at least two-thirds of the country was against them. Bush only succeeded in building up Chavez's support. In the referendum calling for his ouster that followed the failed coup attempt, he increased his margin of victory to just over 70% of the vote. Compare that to Bush's path to glory in 2000 (a margin of one vote on the Supreme Court and a deficit of 500,000 votes in the popular vote) and then his sweeping "mandate" of 51% in 2004. No wonder Chavez thinks that Bush is a danger to democracy in his country. You're not supposed to go around trying to overthrow the democratically elected leader of a sovereign country just because he's a socialist. I think you're supposed to allow the people to decide on their own choice of leaders in a democracy. If they don't like him, they can vote against him in the next election. So far, he's ahead in the polls by a wide margin. I don't agree with most of what George Bush is doing but I don't go around calling for his assassination. Impeachment maybe, but not assassination.

Maybe Bush should try to overthrow people like Kim Jung-il or the corrupt ruling families in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait first if he's really interested in "spreading freedom and democracy."

[zhenya]

Mr Robertson has apologised for his choice of words.

That's something new... Pat never apologises for anything he said becouse he is never wrong...

Maybe Bush should try to overthrow people like Kim Jung-il or the corrupt ruling families in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait first if he's really interested in "spreading freedom and democracy."

Now, George, keep talking like that and you'll give me a heart attack...

[Ninong]

Don't worry, Gene. I'm afraid we're going to be tied up in Iraq for some time to come. I doubt we will be invading any countries larger than Aruba in the immediate future.

[zhenya]

No,George. I was actually worried that if he'd do all he should've done it may give me a heart attack....from being overjoyed.