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    Arrow Is this a "last throe?"

    This must be one of those last throes Deputy Leader Cheney has been telling us about.
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    Arrow This is reassuring:

    It seems that the press is exaggerating again. Iraq is not on the brink of civil war. In fact, it's nothing more than a few minor isolated incidents that have been blown out of proporton by the liberal media.

    U.S. Military Denies Iraq on Brink of Civil War:

    "As of now seven attacks on mosques across Iraq have taken place that resulted in damage to mosques. Two Sunni imams (prayer leaders) and one Sunni sheikh were murdered," Lynch told reporters, playing down the sectarian strife.

    "Some drive-by shootings against mosques have been reported ... that's where we are. So we are not seeing civil war igniting in Iraq. We are not seeing 77, 80, 100 mosques damaged in Iraq. We are not seeing death on the streets."

    More than 80 bodies of people who had been shot dead were brought to Baghdad's morgue between Wednesday afternoon and Thursday morning, according to its deputy director.

    In addition, 47 workers from a brick factory were murdered Thursday on the outskirts of the capital, police said.

    Rush Limbaugh would probably call this nothing more than fraternity hazing.
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    Rush could take the same path as O'Reilly.

    O'Reilly called everyone who said we should withdraw ASAP "pinheads" or worse during the Murtha flap a mere 60 days ago.

    On Feb. 20th, Billy said we should get out NOW because "we underestimated the crazies".

    Welcome to the cut and run club Bill.
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    Question Remember the Victory speeches?

    You know, that series of speeches Bush gave before selected military audiences outlining his new strategy for victory in Iraq. And then the White House posted a detailed road map for victory on their website.

    See if you can figure out which "term" we're in right now. Do you see "civil war" anywhere in our victory plans?


    VICTORY IN IRAQ DEFINED
    As the central front in the global war on terror, success in Iraq is an essential element in the long war against the ideology that breeds international terrorism. Unlike past wars, however, victory in Iraq will not come in the form of an enemy's surrender, or be signaled by a single particular event -- there will be no Battleship Missouri, no Appomattox. The ultimate victory will be achieved in stages, and we expect:
    • In the short term:
      • An Iraq that is making steady progress in fighting terrorists and neutralizing the insurgency, meeting political milestones; building democratic institutions; standing up robust security forces to gather intelligence, destroy terrorist networks, and maintain security; and tackling key economic reforms to lay the foundation for a sound economy.
    • In the medium term:
      • An Iraq that is in the lead defeating terrorists and insurgents and providing its own security, with a constitutional, elected government in place, providing an inspiring example to reformers in the region, and well on its way to achieving its economic potential.
    • In the longer term:
      • An Iraq that has defeated the terrorists and neutralized the insurgency.
      • An Iraq that is peaceful, united, stable, democratic, and secure, where Iraqis have the institutions and resources they need to govern themselves justly and provide security for their country.
      • An Iraq that is a partner in the global war on terror and the fight against the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, integrated into the international community, an engine for regional economic growth, and proving the fruits of democratic governance to the region.
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    Arrow We're making great progress in Iraq (Cont'd.):

    "In January 2006, the mission is to continue to hand over more and more territory and more and more responsibility to Iraqi forces," Bush said. "That's progress."

    More signs of progress:

    No Iraqi battalion capable of fighting without U.S. support

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The only Iraqi battalion capable of fighting without U.S. support has been downgraded to a level requiring them to fight with American troops backing them up, the Pentagon said Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ninong
    See if you can figure out which "term" we're in right now. Do you see "civil war" anywhere in our victory plans?
    I don't even see much about the Iraqi people in the plans for their country.

    Could they use the word terror more in that writeup?

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    Arrow They write books AFTER they leave the administration:

    Have you noticed that so many former Bush administration insiders wait until they are no longer a part of the administration to finally speak up and say that the administration's foreign policy is geopolitical fantasy and it's handling of Iraq is an unmitigated disaster compounded by ignorance and incompetence.

    Colin Powell hasn't written another book since leaving his post as Secretary of State but his very close friend and former Chief of Staff, Col. Larry Wilkerson, is on the talk circuit blasting the administration and Rumsfeld and Cheney in particular. Former confidants of Bush's father, like Brent Scowcroft, are telling it like it is every chance they get.

    And now we have Paul Bremer's new book that was just released. He basically says that Bush's Iraq policies are doomed and were doomed from the start because of a lack of planning and a refusal to provide the military commanders the force levels necessary to accomplish the mission.

    Excerpts from today's New York Times book review of Bremer's memoir, My Year in Iraq.



    Bremer turned to Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top American commander in Iraq, and asked him what he would do with two more divisions, as many as 40,000 more troops. General Sanchez did not hesitate to answer. "I'd control Baghdad," he said. Bremer then mentioned some other uses for the soldiers, like securing Iraq's borders and protecting its infrastructure, to which General Sanchez replied: "Got those spare troops handy, sir?"

    Yet for most of the 14 months that Bremer oversaw the occupation, he and his aides, and General Sanchez and his, often seemed the only people in Iraq who refused to acknowledge the anarchy in the streets. Though confronted by the growing guerrilla insurgency and the brazen behavior of armed militias, Bremer and other senior American officials routinely batted down any suggestion that they needed more soldiers.

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    Arrow "Bagdad is just as safe as Houston." -- Tom DeLay

    Baghdad official who exposed executions flees

    Jonathan Steele
    Thursday March 2, 2006
    The Guardian


    Faik Bakir, the director of the Baghdad morgue, has fled Iraq in fear of his life after reporting that more than 7,000 people have been killed by death squads in recent months, the outgoing head of the UN human rights office in Iraq has disclosed.

    "The vast majority of bodies showed signs of summary execution - many with their hands tied behind their back. Some showed evidence of torture, with arms and leg joints broken by electric drills," said John Pace, the Maltese UN official. The killings had been happening long before the bloodshed after last week's bombing of the Shia shrine in Samarra.

    Mr Pace, whose contract in Iraq ended last month, said many killings were carried out by Shia militias linked to the industry ministry run by Bayan Jabr, a leading figure in the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq (Sciri).

    Mr Pace said records, supported by photographs, came from Baghdad's forensic institute, which passed them to the UN. The Baghdad morgue has been receiving 700 or more bodies a month. The figures peaked at 1,100 last July - many showing signs of torture.

    Reports of government-sponsored death squads have sparked fear among many prominent Iraqis, prompting a rise in the number leaving the country. Mr Pace said the morgue's director had received death threats after he reported the murders. "He's out of the country now," said Mr Pace, adding that the attribution of the killings to government-linked militias did not come from Dr Bakir.

    "There are other sources for that. Some militias are integrated with the police and wear police uniforms," he said. "The Badr brigade [Sciri's armed wing] are in the police and are mainly the ones doing the killing. They're the most notorious."

    Some Iraqis accuse the Mahdi army militia, linked to the radical cleric Moqtada al-Sadr, of seizing and killing people. But Mr Pace said: "I'm not as sure of the Mahdi army as I am of the others."
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    Off topic...but does this remind you of anyone?

    Was Norman Mingo (the cover artist) Nostradamus or WHAT?!?

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