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    Exclamation Creation vs. Evolution

    The debate rages on (and on and on).

    I wonder if anyone on Reefland actually still thinks that the world was created 6000 or so years ago - 4004 BC if the biblical accounts are to be believed.

    This thread started as an observation by several memebers on the complexity of the eye (a favourite creation "scientists" use to hoodwink the unsuspecting public).

    This isn't to say, you can't believe in God and "some" form of creation; although personally I find the whole idea rather ludicrous.

    The question is who else really thinks that the whole universe including the myriad of complex life - much of it presumably uncovered in the ocean's depths - really just popped out of thin air: on command!

    You don't have to believe in the 6 day creation to marvel at the critters in your tank... do you? I gaze in wonder at how evolution designed each one by a randomly seeded process to be a master at its own game and how the struggle to survive continues (on a minute scale) in our own homes!
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    Oh boy..... Here comes the mother of all "hot" threads. Marc, just as a fair warning, this may get pulled if it gets to heated.

    Oh and for what it is worth, I believe in EVOLUTION!
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    Pull it by all means if necessary - I don't want a flame war (as you'll know Mike from my previous threads and replies)!

    I'm really more interested if anyone on reefland actually believes in this stuff.
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    I know you don't want to start a flame thread, but sometimes this topic gets rather heated. Politics and Religion have been banned even from the "off topic" areas on other boards.

    It is not my style to pull threads without good reason, I like my FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetaero
    :eek3::eek3:

    From their Tenets of Scientific Creationism:
    The first human beings did not evolve from an animal ancestry, but were specially created in fully human form from the start. Furthermore, the "spiritual" nature of man (self-image, moral consciousness, abstract reasoning, language, will, religious nature, etc.) is itself a supernaturally created entity distinct from mere biological life.
    oh my.
    From their Tenets of Biblical Creationism
    The Creator of the universe is a triune God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is only one eternal and transcendent God, the source of all being and meaning, and He exists in three Persons, each of whom participated in the work of creation.

    DUDE! That explains the Jesus Lizard...
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    Hey! That's a neat little critter!
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    LOVE the Jesus lizard!
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    I want one!
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    Marc ,

    Mike is right... this topic has become quite <ahem> heated in past. I think last time we ran through this discussion, we all agreed to disagree vis a vis our respective viewpoints on this particular topic.

    Let's talk about Scientology instead! It would be SOOO much more interesting, and would probably get lots fewer people riled up!

    You believe aliens settled the planet about 30,000 years ago, don't you???

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    He he! Unless Mr. Cruise finds the time to join up! ;-)

    Funny how the Scientologists are at one end of the timeline and the YECs at the other - both massively off the ball!
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    Quote Originally Posted by almostdiva
    Let's talk about Scientology instead! It would be SOOO much more interesting, and would probably get lots fewer people riled up!
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    The new grades at www.nationsreportcard.gov are in and American children's proficiency in science has gone down. Related? I certainly think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poseidon
    I know you don't want to start a flame thread, but sometimes this topic gets rather heated. Politics and Religion have been banned even from the "off topic" areas on other boards.

    It is not my style to pull threads without good reason, I like my FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
    I can't wait until the topics of politics and religion are banned on Reefland. Frankly, I'm embarrassed to have even my pseudonym associated with the constant anti-establishment rhetoric here. There are plenty of internet sites for political discussion. I'd like to see Reefland stick to less offensive topics.
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