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    Exclamation Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    The Republican governor of Idaho intends to authorize the killing of almost all of the gray wolves in the state as soon as the Republican Bush Administration strips them of protection under the endangered species act. In fact, Gov. C. L. "Butch" Otter said he is looking forward to killing a wolf personally. "Butch" loves killing animals. He loves his guns and his killing and all that good stuff. That's why he's a member of the National Rifle Association and Safari Club International, a group of right-wing "sportsmen" who just love to kill endangered species -- the rarer, the better. You get extra points for killing something that is almost extinct. If you don't believe me, just follow that link and read it for yourself. Try not to gag.
    Browse through one of Safari Club's magazines, Safari: The Journal of Big Game Hunting, and you are blitzed with ads touting captive hunting ranches all over the world. Ads for African safaris are littered with smiling hunters beside dead rhinos, lions and elephants—alongside ads for taxidermists to mount the kills for display.
    I think the governor is also an official cowboy or something like that. It's all on his website with the other crap. He's also a devout Roman Catholic, so I guess he's killing wolves in God's service? How many wolves would Jesus kill? I wonder if he'll invite Darth Cheney to join in on the 'sport?' Cheney is a big fan of captive hunting ranches.

    "I'm prepared to bid for that first ticket to shoot a wolf myself," Otter said earlier Thursday during a rally of about 300 hunters.

    You can read all about it here. Try not to throw up on your keyboard.


    Canis lupus


    Homo ignoramus microphallus

    One of the wolves "Butch" wants to kill.

    Wikipedia article on Canis lupus.
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    Ninong,

    It would be interesting to see how much impact a resurgent Grey Wolf population is having on the cattle industry in Idaho.

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    if they kill 85 % wont they be on the endgered lis
    t again duh

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPasse View Post
    Ninong,

    It would be interesting to see how much impact a resurgent Grey Wolf population is having on the cattle industry in Idaho.

    Regards,

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    Defenders of Wildlife

    Why is there a Defenders of Wildlife Compensation Trust?

    The goal is to shift economic responsibility for wolf recovery away from the individual rancher and toward the millions of people who want to see wolf populations restored. When ranchers alone are forced to bear the cost of wolf recovery, it creates animosity and ill will toward the wolf. Such negative attitudes can result in illegal killing.

    Do wolves kill livestock frequently?

    No. According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS), the highest reported livestock loss rates in Minnesota are only a fraction of one percent. Livestock loss rates in the northern Rockies also have been low. In comparison, wolf losses represent one of the lowest causes for livestock losses in general. Statistics offer little consolation, however, to those who suffer losses.

    How does the program work?

    A federal, tribal or state wildlife agent confirms through an investigation including necropsy techniques and the presence of tracks, hair and scat in order to determine that a wolf has killed livestock. An investigation report is sent to Defenders and we contact the rancher to help determine the livestock value. A check from Defenders is sent to the rancher after receiving the agent’s report. We pay full market value for calves and lambs for confirmed livestock kills by wolves and grizzly bears. We pay 50 percent of market value for probable losses when the evidence is strong, but not conclusive that the predators have killed livestock.

    How is the livestock value determined?

    Defenders takes the rancher's assessment of the animal's value and compares it with current auction reports and livestock prices as reported in regional newspapers. If there is a significant difference, the local county extension agent determines the price. Our maximum payment per animal is $3,000. The Trust does not compensate the rancher if the livestock is covered by an insurance program or an existing state program.
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    id tell him ,if you can catch one and choke it with your bare hands id be for it, carrying a gun doesnt make you a man, look at his pic..............guess he needed the shotgun for a prop.......................leave the wolves alone and grow more potatoes ;)
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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    Gov. Butch Otter Will Include Hunters In Wolf Management Plan

    Yesterday, Idaho Governor Butch Otter addressed around 300 sportsmen and women on the steps of the state house and talked about the upcoming de-listing of the gray wolf and promised those in attendance that the plan for reducing wolf populations to as few as 10 packs and keeping them in check, would involve hunters. Too often we see state fish and game taking it upon themselves to reduce problem wildlife without giving hunters a chance.

    Without giving any specific details in his address, Otter did do a little, "We told you so" bantering while pointing his finger in a direction we can only assume was directed at the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and other wolf advocate groups and individuals - a collective Them.

    Here.



    Not So Fast There, Hotshot!

    Gray wolves back on the Endangered List.

    The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service on Sept. 23 asked a judge in Montana to return gray wolves in the Northern Rockies to the endangered list, reversing a proposal to drop them earlier this year. That followed the judge's order in July barring plans for public wolf hunts in Montana, Idaho and Wyoming.

    And just yesterday, a federal court overturned the Bush administration's decision to remove gray wolves in the western Great Lakes region from the endangered species list.

    So that means none of the wolf populations in the United States have been removed from the Endangered Species List. Alaska doesn't count. Their wolves have never been on the Endangered Species List.

    Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin will be so disappointed. Which reminds me, why doesn't Dick Cheney invite Sarah Palin to go hunting with him? Then McCain could choose a new running mate? One who speaks in complete sentences.
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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    The fact that someone could point a gun at a wolf and pull the trigger sickens me. Why would someone like that be running our country?(no offense if you are a supporter)

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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    YouTube video about wolves. (3 min, 20 sec)

    Another YouTube video about Sarah Palin's love affair with wolves. (1 min, 2 sec)

    Attached photo of two young Alaskans looking for something to kill. Nice hair. (Is that a Taurus in Mercede's left hand?)
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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    Bush Still Trying to Kill Off the Wolves Before Leaving Office

    The Bush administration is trying again to take the gray wolf of the northern Rockies off the federal endangered species list.

    Having lost in court this summer in a legal battle with conservationists, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has decided to reopen for public comment its 2007 proposal to delist the wolves.

    "The position of the service is, we think the wolves no longer need the protection of the Endangered Species Act. We're asking the public to weigh in to that," Ed Bangs, wolf recovery coordinator for Fish and Wildlife, said in an interview yesterday.

    Wolf advocates immediately protested.

    "This is the Bush administration's last-gasp attempt to remove protections for wolves," said Louisa Wilcox, a senior wildlife advocate for the Natural Resources Defense Council in Livingston, Mont.

    "It looks like they're launching an all-out run to ram the same flawed package back through," said Jamie Rappaport Clark, executive vice president of Defenders of Wildlife and a director of Fish and Wildlife during the second Clinton administration.
    Now that they realize Sarah Palin won't be in the White House next year to supervise aerial shooting of wolves, they're desperate to get around the rulings of two federal judges.
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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

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    Bush Still Trying to Kill Off the Wolves Before Leaving Office
    The Bush administration is trying again to take the gray wolf of the northern Rockies off the federal endangered species list.

    Having lost in court this summer in a legal battle with conservationists, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has decided to reopen for public comment its 2007 proposal to delist the wolves.

    "The position of the service is, we think the wolves no longer need the protection of the Endangered Species Act. We're asking the public to weigh in to that," Ed Bangs, wolf recovery coordinator for Fish and Wildlife, said in an interview yesterday.

    Wolf advocates immediately protested.

    "This is the Bush administration's last-gasp attempt to remove protections for wolves," said Louisa Wilcox, a senior wildlife advocate for the Natural Resources Defense Council in Livingston, Mont.

    "It looks like they're launching an all-out run to ram the same flawed package back through," said Jamie Rappaport Clark, executive vice president of Defenders of Wildlife and a director of Fish and Wildlife during the second Clinton administration.
    Now that they realize Sarah Palin won't be in the White House next year to supervise aerial shooting of wolves, they're desperate to get around the rulings of two federal judges.
    On January 14, 2009, USFWS announced that gray wolves were being delisted because "they no longer need protection of the Endangered Species Act." The rule was set to be published on January 27, 2009.

    On January 21, 2009, the USFWS reversed course. That rule will NOT be published on January 27, 2009 after all. Gee, I wonder what changed their minds? January 21st was the first full day on the job for the new president and it didn't take him long to start rolling back all the last minute gasps of the dying Bush administration to screw up the environment as much as possible before they left Washington in disgrace!

    Idaho Mountain Express:
    Obama administration puts brakes on wolf delisting

    President Barack Obama has issued a freeze on the publication of certain federal regulations planned under the previous Bush administration that halts, at least temporarily, a move to delist wolves in portions of the northern Rockies and Great Lakes region.

    [...]

    According to Rose, the wolf delisting rule for the northern Rockies was set to be published on Jan. 27. The normal waiting period before a federal rule becomes law is 30 days.

    [...]

    Until the Obama administration decides to continue to delist or not, wolves in the northern Rockies and the Great Lakes region will remain fully protected under the ESA, Rose said. The administration will likely call on the Fish and Wildlife Service as they sort through the controversial issue.

    "We don't know if it will go forward," she said.

    In Idaho, as many as 428 wolves could have been targeted by hunters last fall under a plan approved by the state's Fish and Game Commission. The plan will govern wolf hunting later this fall if the new administration decides to proceed with the wolf delisting.
    "Temporarily?" Dude! Get a grip on reality. It ain't gonna happen. You and "Butch" Otter and Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin will have to shoot wolves in Alaska from now on because all of the gray wolves in the lower 48 are not coming off the Endangered Species list any time soon.

    "Butch" Otter, Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin and all the other fearless hunters will have to find some other way to satisfy their blood lust.

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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    Obama Administration Screws Up
    BILLINGS, Mont. – Wolves in parts of the Northern Rockies and the Great Lakes region come off the endangered species list on Monday, opening them to public hunts in some states for the first time in decades.

    Federal officials say the population of gray wolves in those areas has recovered and is large enough to survive on its own. The animals were listed as endangered in 1974, after they had been wiped out across the lower 48 states by hunting and government-sponsored poisoning.

    [...]

    Environmental and animal rights groups have also said they planned to sue over the delisting, claiming that there are still not enough wolves to guarantee their survival. The groups point to Idaho's plan to kill up to 100 wolves believed to have killed elk.

    "We understand that hunting is part of wildlife policy in the West," said Anne Carlson with the Western Wolf Coalition. "(But) wolves should be managed like native wildlife and not as pests to be exterminated."

    The delisting review began under the administration of President George W. Bush and the proposal was upheld by President Barack Obama's administration after an internal review. In a recent letter to several members of Congress, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar wrote that he was "confident that science justifies the delisting of the gray wolf."
    Looks like "Butch" Otter won! Now he and Dick Cheney can start hunting wolves in Idaho. I hope Cheney shoots one of his fellow hunters in the face! Sarah Palin will no doubt come down from Alaksa to show them how to kill them from the air. Looks like Palin can't wait to shoot her some Idaho wolves. That's a new toy the NRA gave her. Maybe she'll shot Mitt Romney accidentally?

    This is so sick! "Science justifies the delisting!" Does science justify the killing of 85% of the wolves in Idaho?

    Now what happens?! "Butch" Otter and his pals will kill off 85% of the wolves in no time at all and they will be back on the endangered species list again.

    Some people will shoot anything that moves.

    P.S. -- It is so stupid for Idaho to say that they are going to kill 100 wolves because they are "believed to have killed elk." That's what wolves do for a living! Besides, there were too many elk. Right after wolves were reintroduced to Yellowstone in 1995, the beavers finally returned. Beavers couldn't survive in Yellowstone before the wolves returned because the elk were eating all the young tree shoots that the beavers need for food. Now the elk don't have time to eat all the tree shoots because the wolves keep them moving. It's called a balanced ecosystem. Wolves are, and always have been, an important part of that balance.

    You cannot remove the top predator from an ecosystem without unintended consequences. Sooner or later the killing of millions of sharks annually for their fins is going to come back to haunt us. That's another ecosystem we are screwing up.
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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    Gray Wolves in Montana and Idaho Back on Endangered Species List

    Good news! A U.S. District Judge in Montana has ordered the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to put all gray wolves back on the endangered species list.


    Idaho Governor "Butch" Otter still intends to ask the government for approval to conduct a wolf hunt. Haha! Lots of luck with that one, moron!



    P.S. -- Butch Otter sounds like the name of a lesbian bar on Valencia Street in San Francisco.
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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    wow stupid people these days....

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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    just had too say id get one...Good pets...very playful...BOOM! heres some links too prove it
    even kids are toying with and 8year old grey wolf in this YouTube - a gray wolf named kochise....YouTube - Pure Wolf Pets .... YouTube - Wolf in the House .I also just put my deposit down for my african serval purebred which will be due in the spring,which is also a very good exotic and loves too play...

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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    I don't think that first one, Kochise, is pure wolf. He looks more like a wolf x Siberian husky hybrid.

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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarineGuy View Post
    just had too say id get one...Good pets...
    Wolves make terrible pets and they are not safe around children. Most of the YouTube video clips of "wolves" as pets are really wolf hybrids.

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    Re: Governor of Idaho calls for KILLING 85% of gray wolves in the state!

    some are hybrids yes,but look closly an a few say 100% pure,but then again thats just them saying.their is a breeder in my state that has breeding going on lic from the state and the usda,the same place from where im getting my serval from,and walking through the outdoor facility we passed the wolves with no problem they just look and wag their tail,which i know can be a bad sign,but i must say out of all the wild cats and dogs ive been around recently lynxs are the meanest,i would reccomend a wolve too the novice exotic pet owner before a lynx,the breeder also agrees.but hey if you had 100%purebred wolve that was docile and timmid tell me that wouldnt be fun....I know my serval will be.


 

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