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Re: Barack Obama for President
New Magic Number: 43
That's how many total delegates Barack needs for the nomination. Barack now leads Hillary by 199 delegates (pledged and superdelegates combined). The Democratic party will meet this Saturday to come to an agreement on the Florida and Michigan delegations. The rules call for punishing both delegations by awarding them no more than half their votes. That's the best they can hope for. Hillary is demanding that their "votes be fully valued." That means she intends to throw a childish tantrum if she doesn't get her way. She's busing in legions of angry post-menopausal white women to stage a riot Saturday in support of her lost cause. Hillary's last hurrah will be Sunday in San Juan. She will probably win Puerto Rico by double digits. It won't change anything. Her fifteen minutes are almost up. This nightmare of a primary contest will be over before the end of next week. Speaker Pelosi has put out the word that enough is enough and she's had enough. She wants the uncommitted superdelegates to announce their support next week after the South Dakota and Montana primaries June 3. By this time next week Barack will be the presumptive nominee of the Democratic party. He will have more total delegates than he needs for the nomination no matter how Florida and Michigan are awarded. Hillary will scream that she really won because if you give her credit for 328,000 votes from Michigan and give Barack zero and if you ignore at least four caucus states and if she wins by a few hundred thousand votes in Puerto Rico, then she might have more popular votes than Barack and that means that the only reason she's not getting the nomination is because she's a white woman instead of a black man. Black men have all the advantages. It's not fair. P.S. -- I wonder if Hillary will out do Pat Schroeder in her withdrawal speech? Remember how Pat Schroeder burst out crying in front of the cameras when she announced her withdrawal from the race for the Democratic nomination about 20 years ago?
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This is truly amazing. Those right-wing wackos who set out to prove that Barack Obama was lying about having an uncle who participated in the liberation of a Nazi concentration camp keep coming back for more even after they have been publicly humiliated by someone old enough to be their grandfather, or maybe even their great-grandfather. After being told to "Please crawl back under the rock you came out from," they came back for more, challenging the integrity of the website and the World War II veteran running it. They called it a "site supporting Obama's position" and said "the site seems dubious, at best." Mr. Kitchell responded: To: Steve GilbertRound two goes to Mr. Kitchell. He now leads 2-0. Time for the right-wing wackos to call it a day, right? Wrong! Gilbert posted the following snide comment about World War II veteran Kitchell: I wonder how many people who visit the 89th Infantry site and support Mr. Kitchell’s work realize his politics are those of Cindy Sheehan?What? What does Cindy Sheehan have to do with a guy who is probably at least in his mid-80's (World War II ended 63 years ago)? How is this gentleman "supporting Obama" by maintaining a website devoted to his division in World War II? What does Cindy Sheehan have to do with World War II? Is this guy Gilbert just a young ignorant punk or is he an older ignorant punk? Where do these crackpots come up with such nonsense? Mr. Kitchell has now responded on the front page of his 89th Inf Div website: Concerning the service of Mr. Charles Payne: C.T. Payne was a soldier in the 89th Infantry Division. He served in the 355th Infantry Regiment, Company K. The 355th Infantry Regiment was the unit to liberate Ohrdruf. Mr. Payne was there.If you want to know what the veterans of the 89th Infantry Division saw when they liberated that Nazi concentration camp, it's all right here on their website. Remembrances: Ralph Craib--The Forgotten Death Camp
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Re: Barack Obama for President
New Magic Number: 41
That's how many total delegates Barack needs for the nomination. Barack now leads Hillary by 201 delegates (pledged and superdelegates combined). P.S. -- The magic number will change if the Democratic party decides to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations. If they are seated with only one-half vote per delegate, which seems the most likely outcome, Hillary will pick up a net gain of only about 19 or 20 delegates. In other words, Barack will still lead her by some 180 delegates, probably more because more superdelegates are announcing for him every day now. It will all be over before the end of next week because Barack is going to get the majority of the superdelegates who are still uncommitted. Speaker Pelosi has told all of them to declare before the end of next week. It's still possible that Hillary will refuse to accept the rules committee's decision on the Florida and Michigan delegations (she wants "full value") and announce that she is taking that all the way to the convention for a floor fight but it won't make any difference one way or the other because Barack is about to pick up enough superdelegates to make him the nominee even if Hillary got everything she's asking for out of Florida and Michigan.
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Re: Barack Obama for President
Obama Calls Out McCain On His Dumb Troop Statement
Sen. John McCain is totally clueless on Iraq. Right now he's attacking Sen. Obama for not having made as many visits to Iraq as he has. McCain has made eight visits and Obama has made only one in January 2006. McCain says that if Obama made another visit to Iraq he would see how wonderful things are over there now. The last time McCain visited Iraq (with little buddies Lindsey Graham and Joe Lieberman), he told us that al-Qaida operatives were being taken into Iran for training. Little Joe Lieberman had to whisper in his ear that it was "terrorists" who were being taken to Iran for training, "not al-Qaida." McCain immediately corrected his ridiculous assertion that Iran was actually training any al-Qaida operatives. As a matter of fact, any al-Qaida operatives caught in Iran are immediately thrown into jail, if they're captured alive and not killed on the spot. Two of Osama bin Laden's sons have been rotting away in Iranian prison cells for years now, along with a dozen other fairly high-ranking members of al-Qaida that Iran has chosen to incarcerate rather than exterminate. Just yesterday Sen. McCain, speaking of the Surge, told us: "I can tell you that it is succeeding. I can look you in the eye and tell you it's succeeding. We have drawn down to pre-surge levels. Basra, Mosul and now Sadr City are quiet and it's long and it's hard and it's tough and there will be setbacks." In fact, as the Obama Campaign was quick to point out, the troop level in Iraq is about 155,000 right now, well above the 130,000 that would mark a return to pre-surge levels. Furthermore, the Bush administration has no plans to reduce troop levels to pre-surge levels. The plans are to reduce to 140,000 troops, which would be 10,000 more than pre-surge levels. McCain has no idea what our plans are in Iraq. He's totally clueless. His campaign is trying to pretend he was just having another 'senior moment' and misspoke. P.S. -- Thirty Iraqis were killed in Mosul yesterday while McCain was telling us how "quiet" it is there.
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Re: Barack Obama for President
McCain Accuses Obama Of "Nitpicking"
Sen. John McCain is upset that anyone would dare notice that he has no idea how many troops we have in Iraq or what our current plans are for reducing them. Here is what Sen. Obama just said about McCain's latest weird statements about Iraq: He's been proposing a joint trip to Iraq that's nothing more than a political stunt. He's even been using it to raise a few dollars for his campaign. But it seems like Senator McCain's a lot more interested in my travel plans than the facts, because yesterday – in his continued effort to put the best light on a failed policy – he stood up in Wisconsin and said, "We have drawn down to pre-surge levels" in Iraq.
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Re: Barack Obama for President
Rules Committee Just Now Recessed Until 4:15 p.m. EDT
I have been watching the live feed from the rules committee's hearing today on the question of seating the Florida and Michigan delegations. All I can say is that I am amazed that Hillary's supporters can make the statements they are making and still keep a straight face. Their arguments boil down to this: we must honor the vote of the people. That's it. Period. Ignore the rules that all of the candidates agreed to in advance and just seat all of the delegates based on the "vote of the people" in Florida and Michigan, even though Barack Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. Former Governor Blanchard of Michigan, who represents the Clinton Campaign, won't even agree to the compromise agreed to by Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) and Governor Jennifer Granholm. He's insisting that Hillary get all of the delegates she would have been entitled to based on the vote had Michigan not violated the rules. He ignores the fact that many Obama supporters didn't bother to vote because they knew Obama's name wasn't even on the ballot and they were told by the Democratic party that the Michigan primary wouldn't count for anything. Michigan decided to hold their primary early because Gov. Granholm and Sen. Levin wanted to give Hillary Clinton an advantage over Barack Obama. She had better name recognition and they knew that the more Obama got to introduce himself to the voters, the more they would get to know him and the better his chances would become. Therefore, they wanted a very early primary in the belief that this would work to Hillary's advantage. Levin threatened to pull this same stunt previously, when Hillary's current campaign chairman, Terry McAuliffe, was Chairman of the Democratic National Committee and McAuliffe told him in no uncertain terms that he wouldn't allow it. This thing has been going on since early this morning. I just tuned in a couple hours ago, so I missed the first few hours. At the rate they're going, they'll be there all day and well into the evening. It really doesn't matter as far as Obama's nomination is concerned how they apportion these delegates from Florida and Michigan. They could give Hillary everything she's demanding and Obama still wins with more total delegates. His lead is insurmountable. What does matter is that giving Hillary everything she's demanding would violate the rules and set a very bad precedent for the future. The rules say that the very most that these states can get is 1/2 vote per delegate. That's it. That's the best they can hope for without violating the rules that everybody signed off on. Hillary believes that because she's a woman, she's entitled to special treatment. Because she's a woman, she's entitled to making her own rules and if anybody gets in her way, then they're obviously sexist and biased against her because of her gender. And if she doesn't get her way, she's going to tell all of her angry, middle-aged white women supporters to vote for McCrazy instead of Obama. You should read some of the statements posted by some of these white, female Clinton supporters online. I'm talking about the women who are heads of these large groups that are spending millions of dollars to get Hillary elected. They are taking this defeat as a personal defeat based entirely on gender. They don't care how many delegates Barack Obama has. As far as they're concerned, this election was rigged by the men to prevent a woman from becoming president, even though everybody agreed a year ago that it was her turn and she was entitled to it as the wife of a former president. They believe deep in their hearts that Bill Richardson and John Edwards gave their support to Obama instead of the much more qualified Hillary Clinton simply because that's what guys do. They stick together. Poor Hillary. She doesn't know how to accept defeat gracefully. Li'l Hillz
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Re: Barack Obama for President
Over-the-Hillz Supporters Stage Protest
![]() Bet you can't guess which one is the Obama supporter and which one is the Hillary supporter? ![]() ![]() Typical Hillary supporter. ![]() Another Hillary fan. They have a thing for sticking stuff to their foreheads. P.S. -- The rules committee still hasn't returned from their lunch break yet. At this rate, they're going to be there all night.
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Rules Committee Returned After 3-Hr Lunch
They worked out a comprise while at lunch. Hillary's supporters in the audience are disrupting the proceedings repeatedly with unruly and obnoxious behavior. They are interrupting the speakers with shouting and boos whenever they hear something they don't like. Harold Ickes, spokesperson for Senator Clinton, has just announced that Sen. Clinton has authorized him to state that she is reserving her right to take this issue (the seating of the Florida and Michigan delegations) to the credentials committee at the convention in Denver in late August. All of Hillary's official spokespersons have made obnoxious speeches denouncing the proposed compromise. The only thing they haven't done yet is compare the Democratic party to Robert Mugabe in Zimbabwe, which is something Sen. Clinton did a few days ago. Hillary is a sore loser!
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It's a Done Deal but Hillary's Not Happy!
The rules committee agreed to seat the Florida and Michigan delegations in full but each delegate will get only 1/2 vote. This is the best you can do under the Democratic party's rules, which all of the candidates agreed to in advance. The vote on the Florida compromise was 27-0 but the vote on the Michigan compromise was 19-8. Hillary's people are furious that the rules committee decided to award Obama the uncommitted delegates from Michigan. They awarded 69 delegates to Hillary and 59 to Obama, each of those delegates getting 1/2 vote apiece. Hillary's net gain on the day between both states is +24 but she's furious that Obama received any delegates at all out of Michigan. P.S. -- Hillary's supporters in the audience were extremly rude and unruly, shouting down speakers and clapping wildly whenever one of Hillary's representatives had anything to say. They will all have a very long busride back home tonight. Meanwhile, Hillary's down in San Juan, Puerto Rico getting bombed on Piña Coladas.
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Re: Barack Obama for President
Latest Gallup Poll (May 30, 2008):
Democratic presidential nomination: Obama 52%, Clinton 42%. General election: Obama 46%, McCain 45%; Clinton 47%, McCain 45%.
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CNN Running Hit Piece On Obama
CNN is running a very distorted, one-sided hit piece on Obama's campaign for the Illinois Senate. It was really disgusting to see Don Lemon introduce it with the comment, "What many people don't know about Barack Obama and it's not pretty." What a bunch of crap! They interviewed several of his political opponents from Illinois and none of his supporters. They are making a big deal of the fact that Obama challenged the signature petition submitted by Alice Palmer. They identify Dr. Palmer as the incumbent. They're not giving their audience all of the facts, not by a long shot. Dr. Alice J. Palmer had held that seat for a long time but she decided to resign her seat in order to run for the second congressional seat previously held by Mel Reynolds. Reynolds was indicted for a sexual relationship with an underage campaign volunteer. Palmer filed for the Democratic nomination to his seat. She announced that her chosen successor for her state senate seat was her good friend, Barack Obama. Barack was then a young attorney working on civil rights issues and workers' rights issues. He began campaigning for the state senate seat. He was already a skilled grass roots organizer and he quickly established an excellent ground team and collected lots of contributions. In other words, he was well on his way to his first elected political office. CNN doesn't mention any of this. What CNN tells us is that Barack campaigned against a popular incumbent, Alice Palmer, and managed to get her disqualified by challenging the signatures on her filing petition. It turned out she didn't have enough legal signatures of registered voters in the district. However, what CNN is leaving out is that Alice Palmer was defeated by Jesse Jackson, Jr. for the Democratic nomination to the U.S. Congressional seat. She lost to Jesse Jackson's kid. This is not racial. Everybody we're talking about is African-American. After Palmer loses her shot at the U.S. House seat she has a change of heart. She now asks Obama to give up his race for the open state senate seat that she resigned months earlier. Obama has already collected tons of money for his campaign and he has already lined up powerful support, the same support that helped Jesse Jackson, Jr. defeat Alice Palmer for the Democratic nomination to the open U.S. House seat. The Democratic nomination in the south side of Chicago is tantamount to election because Republicans can't win there. Barack, after discussions with his powerful backers, informed Dr. Palmer that it was too late for him to pull out now. He's almost certainly going to win the Democratic party's nomination because he now has the backing of Mayor Daley. At the last minute, Palmer jumps into the race against Obama. Her signature petition was challenged. She didn't have enough valid signatures. Obama won an easy victory for the Democratic nomination to the state senate seat previously held by Dr. Palmer before she resigned it to run against Jesse Jackson, Jr. CNN is making it look like Barack took on a popular incumbent and then used underhanded tactics to defeat her. They don't say anything about the fact that she resigned the seat, that she announced her support for Obama as her successor, that she was defeated by Jesse Jackson, Jr, and that she changed her mind and decided she wanted her old state senate seat back. CNN leaves out all of that. They make a point of telling us that Barack Obama aligned himself with the powerful Daley machine and that Dr. Palmer is now a strong supporter of Sen. Hillary Clinton. It's nothing but a hatchet job by the corrupt corporate media (Time Warner/Turner Broadcasting). What a lopsided piece of trash! P.S. -- Obama was showing early signs of political genius. He successfully challenged the signature petitions of all three Democratic candidates who tried to run against him. He won the nomination unopposed! Obama was careful to follow the letter of the law and make sure that he had enough valid signatures. His opponents were extremely sloppy. Some of the signatures were of people who didn't live in the district and some of the signatures were gathered by someone who didn't live in the district. If the person gathering the signatures lived outside the district, all of those signatures were voided. Sometimes it pays to have a Harvard law education.
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Re: Barack Obama for President
Barack Quits Trinity United Church of Christ
Barack finally did something he should have done more than a year ago. The final straw was when Fr. Michael Pfleger, a German-American Catholic priest, put on a comic standup performance making fun of Hillary Clinton from the pulpit of Trinity United. It was an outrageous performance and the congregation rolled on the floor laughing, which made matters worse for Barack. Fr. Pfleger is one of those liberation theology Catholic priests who believe their prime responsibility is fighting for social justice and civil rights, etc. There's nothing wrong with that provided they don't get mixed up in politics but it frequently happens that they do get mixed up in politics, especially in some of the Latin American countries. In this specific situation it was unforgiveable that Fr. Pfleger would mention the name of any presidential candidate from the pulpit of any church. First of all, it wasn't even his own church that he was putting at risk of losing federal tax exempt status. He was a guest at Trinity United. Apparently he has been a regular guest there for the past 20 years. Meaning Barack has known him for the past 20 years. Not getting out of Trinity United before he began his campaign for the nomination is the worst political mistake Barack has made by far. He should have switched to a church with a quieter, lower profile pastor a long time ago. Francis Cardinal George issued a statement condemning Fr. Pfleger's outrageous conduct: P.S. -- Let's see if Rush Limbaugh and the other wing-nuts of the lunatic fringe of the Republican party decide to make a big issue out of Fr. Pfleger's comments. I hope they do. If they go overboard with personal attacks against the priest himself, they could piss off the Catholic vote. On the other hand, Hillary Clinton has been getting more than 65% of the Catholic vote against Obama so I imagine a lot of Catholics are pissed off at Fr. Pfleger themselves for making fun of Hillary.
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New Magic Number: 67
Barack Obama now leads Hillary Clinton by 176 total delegates. He has a total of 2,051 to her 1,875. It now takes 2,118 delegates to win the nomination. This is after figuring in the result of the Florida and Michigan compromise worked out today by the rules committee. Hillary may refuse to accept this compromise and take this to the floor of the convention in late August but that's just because she's a sore loser. Hillary not only wanted the delegates from Florida and Michigan to get a full vote each in violation of the Democratic party's rules that she signed off on but she was insisting that Barack receive absolutely no delegates from Michigan. The Michigan compromise gave her 60% of Michigan's delegates (she received 55% of the primary vote) and Barack 40%. Barack's name wasn't on the ballot. Uncommitted received 45% of the votes in Michigan. So Hillary got 69 Michigan delegates and Barack got 59 and each of those delegates gets 1/2 vote. Florida's delegates were seated according to the primary results but each delegate gets only 1/2 vote. We can assume that the John Edwards delegates from Florida might vote for Barack. Even if the rules committee had agreed with Hillary's outrageous demands and agreed to seat both Florida and Michigan with full votes and agreed that Obama would get absolutely no delegates from Michigan, he would still be ahead of her in total delegates but his lead would be less than 100. Then, at the convention, we can only assume that just about all of Michigan's uncommitted delegates would vote for Obama. Hillary was trying to cut his lead down to less than 100 so that she could then argue with the remaining superdelegates that she was more electable because "hard-working Americans, white Americans" like her better than Obama, who happens to be only half white. Hillary's conduct during this campaign has been extremely disappointing. The Republican party punished Florida and Michigan by cutting their votes in half. Now the Democrats have done the same. It's in the party's rules that all of the candidates agreed to in advance. Hillary agreed to the rules but now she wants to change the rules in the middle of the game. That's called "cheating." Li'l Hillz P.S. -- Check out this video clip of a typical, self-proclaimed "older American woman" for Hillary at today's rules committee meeting. Hillary has been stirring up these loonies with her talk comparing the Democratic party's rules requiring that Florida and Michigan lose half their votes to Robert Mugabe's tactics in Zimbabwe. And her official representative at the rules committee meeting announced before an audience packed with "older American women for Hillary" that the Democratic party was "hijacking the election." What a disgrace! Shame on you, Hillary! And shame on your husband, too!
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Hillary Clinton Running for President of Puerto Rico
Hillary's down in San Juan working the Piña Colada circuit: "I am urging you to go out and vote on Sunday, bring your friends and your family with you,'' Clinton, 60, told a rally in San Juan.No doubt we will be treated to another glorious victory speech later this evening. This will be another turning point in the campaign that proves she is more electable than Barack Obama, who is not loved by "hard-working Americans, white Americans" or angry older white women or residents of Puerto Rico who don't even get to vote in the general election as much as Hillary is. And now that the people of Puerto Rico have spoken, Hillary "will never give up and never give in." Like the Energizer bunny, she keeps running and running and running. Meanwhile, the Democratic party has moved on. It's all over, Hillary. You lost. Sorry. "If you like Piña Coladas and getting caught in the rain..." Democratic party: "I was tired of my lady, we'd been together too long."
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Hillary Elected Presidente de Puerto Rico
Te quiero Puerto Rico. Now go to my website HillaryClinton.com and donate money so that I can afford to buy jet fuel for the plane to get me back home. I'm winning the popular vote. I deserve to be the nominee because I'm winning the swing states. I'm winning the popular vote. Hard-working middle class families like me better than my opponent. I'm winning the popular vote. We should COUNT EVERY SINGLE VOTE. We should nominate the candidate who is READY ON DAY ONE to be president. Let's keep fighting for America because America is worth fighting for. I'm winning the popular vote. Go to HillaryClinton.com and donate money. I'm winning the popular vote. Let's keep fighting. I will never give up and never give in. Let's count every single vote. On to South Dakota and Montana. I'm winning. Go to my website and donate money. We're broke! ![]() FACT: Hillary is NOT winning the popular vote! That's a lie that she continues to repeat. Even after adding in the popular vote from Florida, which Hillary won by almost 300,000 votes and even after we add in today's vote from Puerto Rico (which is absurd, since they don't get to vote in the general election), Obama still has a lead in the popular vote. Hillary's fuzzy math calls for giving her credit for 328,309 votes from Michigan and giving Barack zero votes from Michigan. There were 238,168 votes for "Uncommitted" in Michigan but Hillary's not giving Barack credit for any of those votes. And, since the caucus states of Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington do not release official vote totals, Hillary is happy to not count those states at all in her popular vote tally. She lost all of those states although she did come out ahead in the popular vote in Nevada. Barack racked up huge margins of victory in Iowa and Washington, but Hillary needs to not count those in order to claim she has an imaginary lead in the popular vote.
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Hillary Will Not Shut Up
Hillary Clinton is letting her win in Puerto Rico go to her head. Either that or she's had one too many Piña Coladas. Hillary hasn't changed the speech she wrote several days ago when she was expecting a turnout of close to a million voters in Puerto Rico. The actual turnout was just under 385,000. Hillary netted 141,662 more votes than Barack and that's the only category that she's keeping track of now -- the popular vote. Hillary changed the rules and decided that since there is no way she can win more delegates, she will argue that she should get the nomination based on "the will of the people." She keeps saying that she has more popular votes than Obama. She doesn't and she knows it. Even if we add in all of Florida's votes, giving Hillary about 300,000 more than Barack, and even if we give her the 141,662 net advantage today from Puerto Rico, Barack is still ahead in the popular vote by 24,524. If we add in an estimate for Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington, Barack's lead swells to 134,746. And he will almost certainly get more votes than her Tuesday in South Dakota and Montana. So how can Hillary claim that she has more popular votes? Hillary gives herself credit for 328,309 votes from Michigan and she gives Barack credit for zero votes from Michigan, where his name wasn't even on the ballot. In Hillaryland, that seems fair. Note that we're giving Hillary credit for all the popular vote in Florida even though their primary violated the rules and their delegates will get only 1/2 vote each. And we're giving Hillary credit for the popular vote in Puerto Rico, even though the residents of Puerto Rico can't vote in a presidential election. And she still trails Barack in the popular vote. She can only claim to have more popular votes by giving herself credit for Michigan and giving him zero votes from Michigan. If we give Hillary credit for her 328,309 votes from Michigan and give Barack credit for the uncommitted votes from Michigan, he would have a lead of 45,000 over Hillary. The only way she can claim to be leading in the popular vote is to give herself Michigan votes while giving Barack none. Remember when Hillary said that everybody knows Michigan's primary won't count for anything? Enjoy your Puerto Rican victory Hillary. It will be the last victory you will ever have in a presidential race. And I don't think Barack will lose too much sleep worrying about the Puerto Rican vote in November. As long as they're not a state, they don't get to vote.
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Re: Barack Obama for President
Hillary continues to lie her ass off and that's a whole lot of lying! From today's NY Times: “I’ve been closing very strongly since Feb. 20,” she said, referr |