[Ninong]

Obama Beat Hillary in Hawaii by 52 Points: 76% to 24%

Boy, was I off on his margin of victory in both Wisconsin and Hawaii. Here's what I said yesterday morning: "Fearless prediction: Obama will win Wisconsin by 7 points and Hawaii by 12."

He won Wisconsin by 17 points and Hawaii by 52. In Hawaii, the state's Democratic heavy hitters were campaigning for Hillary.

Mr. Bill told an audience in Beaumont, Texas today that it's all up to them. If they don't deliver for Hillary, she won't be president. He went on to say that he believes that if she wins Texas and Ohio on March 4th, she will win the nomination. I think he's wrong about that. Even if she wins, Texas, Ohio and Pennsylvania, she won't overtake Obama's lead in pledged delegates. And he's picking up more superdelegates every week. He has now picked up 15 superdelegates in the past couple of weeks compared to Hillary's loss of 5 supers. The Obama campaign expects at least another dozen superdelegates to announce for him before March 4th.

[Ninong]

"That's not change you can believe in, that's change you can xerox." -- Hillary Clinton

That line went over like a lead balloon and the audience booed her for it. She was criticizing Obama -- again -- for using a line previously used by his close friend and national campaign co-chair, Deval Patrick, that included the catch phrase "just words." As Obama has already said, and as Deval Patrick has already said, it was Patrick who gave Obama the line and suggested he use it.

Obama's response to Hillary was great. He pointed out that she was engaging in "silly politics" and the audience cheered wildly. Hillary is seeing her campaign fade away and she's getting desperate. She should just cut the crap and campaign without all the silly attacks against Obama on the stupidest stuff.

And, speaking of using pre-owned words in your speeches, check this out:

Clinton Tonight: "You know, whatever happens, we're going to be fine. You know, we have strong support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we'll be able to say the same thing about the American people. And that's what this election should be about." - Democratic Debate, 2/21/07

John Edwards: "What's not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no matter what happens in this election. But what's at stake is whether America is going to be fine." - Democratic Debate, 12/13/07

John Edwards: "I want to say this to everyone: with Elizabeth, with my family, with my friends, with all of you and all of your support, this son of a millworker's gonna be just fine. Our job now is to make certain that America will be fine." - Edwards Speech, 1/30/08

[SPasse]

Ninong,

The gap is closing Texas, with Obama’s momentum not slowing down.

From my Republican for Obama friends:

"An ABC News/Washington Post poll released last night has Senator Clinton just one point ahead of Barack Obama here in Texas, leading 48-47. This is a dramatic turnaround from only a week ago, when a Rasmussen poll gave Senator Clinton a 16-point lead."

Regards,

Scott

[Ninong]

Scott,

I don't trust the polls. I still haven't figured out how Hillary won New Hampshire by three points. The final polls showed Obama with a 7-point lead and then Hillary won. That was the ONLY example I can think of where we were surprised in that direction.

ALL of the polls for all of the primaries in the past few weeks (going back to Super Tuesday) have been too low on Obama's numbers. He has consistently done much better than the final polls predicted.

I think the problem is that all of these polling firms have different proprietary formulae for figuring out "likely voters." They're adjusting the raw data based on turnout patterns from past elections. What has happened is that young voters (under 29) are turning out in record numbers, independents and some Republicans are crossing over and voting for Obama, black voters are turning out in record numbers, and, apparently white men can jump. They jumped from John Edwards to Barack Obama.

I believe that no matter what the polls say, Barack Obama will win Texas by at least three or four points. He might even win Ohio but that might be a little tougher. I think that Obama is going to get more of the Texas Latino vote than many people think. For one thing, he's going to get more of the young Latino vote than Hillary. She's turning them off right now. Her peformance in the debate last night was a joke. No one paid any attention to her health care plan and whether it's better than Obama's or not, all anyone noticed was her petty, silly insistence on bringing up Obama's alleged plagiarism. It made her look childish. And then when she delivered that canned punchline, "This is not change you can believe in, it's change you can xerox," the audience groaned and booed and many of the young Latinos asked their parents, "What's a xerox?"

Unless something drastic happens between now and March 4th, Hillary is done.

P.S. -- Hillary is not witty. She may be smart and she may know the answers to all the questions but she's not naturally witty like Barack Obama or Bill Clinton. Both Barack Obama and Bill Clinton can run circles around Hillary when it comes to delivering a speech. Both have excellent, natural timing. Hillary's timing is awful and her facial expressions are forced. Barack's comebacks are natural, hers are canned. That was painfully obvious last night. Her best speech by far was at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner, and she didn't raise her voice. Obama's speech at the same event was much better and he did show a lot more emotion and get more into his delivery. Maybe Hillary's trying to copy him? That's a mistake. She shouldn't try to copy a man's elocution techniques.

Here's another observation: Both Hillary and John McCain have picked up the intensity in their voices in their speeches in a feeble attempt to match Obama. Both of them are coming across as strained and unnatural. Obama comes across as natural. Hillary, in particular, shouldn't try to raise her voice as loud as she has lately. It's not natural for a woman and it comes across as faked. McCain has done the same thing the past few days with the same miserable results. Both he and Hillary shift into the loud delivery for their closing paragraphs but it's not a natural buildup, it comes across as a shock when they suddenly start shouting.

Here's a new drinking contest: Take a sip every time McCain says, "my friends." You'll be drunk before the end of his speech.

[Ninong]

"...as everyone here knows, I've lived through some crises." -- Hillary Clinton last night.

That's another line she has used once too often at this point. Stop beating that dead horse. Everybody knows your husband fooled around. You made the decision to stay with him. Good for both of you but give it a rest!

That line brings up the wrong image. It's a play for sympathy. Implicit in that appeal is "feel sorry for poor little, helpless female me who was lied to by a no-good, womanizing man." I'm now a saint for having forgiven him and stuck by him. Yeah, whatever! It just doesn't make you look strong when you appeal to people to consider the "crises" you've lived through and all you're talking about is the fact that your husband cheats on you. If I were a woman and my husband cheated on me and I decided to keep him anyway, I think it would be one subject I would never bring up in public. Maybe that's just the way women think and she's appealing to women? Whatever she's up to, it's not going over with men at all. It's a complete turnoff.

[Ninong]

It's Only Just Begun

The hate-mongers and racists at FOX News, the official propaganda arm of the Republican National Committee, are really digging deep to try to stir up as much division as they can in anticipation of a Barack Obama nomination.

A few days ago one of their jackass talking heads made a comment about most people watching the Barack Obama-Hillary Clinton televised debates "just wanting to watch them make love." That's just typical trash from the official trash network but now they have really done it.

Check out the last four questions (39-42 on page 11) of this official FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll released February 21, 2008. I wonder if their new employee, Karl Rove, helped formulate these questions?

#39 Who do you think terrorist leader Osama bin Laden wants to win the presidential election?

#40 Some people celebrate the multiculturalism and wide diversity of people in the United States, while others celebrate the country's unity and shared values. In general, are you more likely to vote for a presidential candidate who celebrates the wide diversity of Americans or the shared values of Americans?

#41 Which presidential candidate do you think is most committed to the country's cultural diversity?

#42 Which presidential candidate do you think is most committed to the country's unity?

This is the same network that has repeatedly claimed that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim, that he attended a madrassa, that he is supported by the terrorists, that maybe his wife should be lynched, etc.

Who cares what Osama bin Laden thinks about our presidential candidates. That's a really stupid, juvenile question.

Notice that they are making "multiculturalism and diversity" the opposite of "unity and shared values." The commie pinko liberals celebrate multiculturalism and diversity while the patriotic Americans celebrate unity and shared values. The unsaved heathens celebrate multiculturalism and diversity while the morally righteous Christians celebrate unity and shared values. The godless Democrats celebrate multiculturalism and diversity while the god-fearing Republicans celebrate unity and shared values. How Rovian!

Which presidential candidate do you think is most committed to the country's cultural diversity? The terrorist-loving Democrat who wants to destroy our white Christian way of life by allowing millions of brown people to come into our country illegally and then granting them amnesty or the good Christian Republican who will defend our 'heritage.' Code word: heritage.

Which presidential candidate do you think is most committed to the country's unity? Note that unity is the opposite of cultural diversity. Unity = good. Cultural diversity = bad.

This is the same network that told us that white Americans need to have more babies to prevent our country from being ruined by all those brown Americans who were breeding like rabbits. Pat Buchanan explains how this works in his latest book. Not to worry, when Rev. Mike Huckabee becomes Pastor-in-Chief, he will give all the brown people exactly 90 days to leave the country. Rev. Huckabee says he realizes that expelling more than 12 million people in 90 days sounds like a big job but he believes in miracles.

[Ninong]

SURVEY USA Poll:

In Alabama and California, Little Difference Which Democrat is Nominated, But For Different Reasons

In California, Barack Obama beats John McCain by 27 points. Hillary Clinton beats McCain by 23 points.

In Alabama, McCain beats Obama by 24 points and Clinton by 20 points.

P.S. -- It is a sad fact of life down here in the South that a large percentage of white voters will not vote for a black candidate under any circumstances regardless of party affiliation. The South is definitely NOT San Francisco. Hillary Clinton beat Barack Obama in the Democratic primary in California but Barack Obama carried San Francisco. San Francisco is only 7% black but 85% liberal. OK, so I stretched that last one a little bit. Let's just say that George W. Bush got only 15% of the vote in San Francisco in both 2000 and 2004 -- proof positive that the people in San Francisco are a lot smarter than the people in the rest of the country.

[Ninong]

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[MarkS]

There is no one among the current candidates (or potential candidates) that I would vote for. I'm sick of seeing 60 year old white guys being elected president, and would love to vote for Obama even though I'm a Republican, but I will not touch him with a ten foot pole so long as he continues his campaign to repeal the partial birth abortion law. Clinton? Well, OK, enough said. As for McCain, I want a Republican candidate that leans more towards the right. He is no conservative (AND he's a 60 year old white guy at that), I don't care what anyone else says.

I firmly believe that not voting is the same as casting a vote for the person you don't want, so I'll probably have to vote for McCain. I'll do so with a bad taste in my mouth though.

[MarkS]

Originally Posted by Ninong

#39 Who do you think terrorist leader Osama bin Laden wants to win the presidential election?

Simple. Any candidate that does not support the war in Iraq. Nothing hate-filled or racist here.

Originally Posted by Ninong

#40 Some people celebrate the multiculturalism and wide diversity of people in the United States, while others celebrate the country's unity and shared values. In general, are you more likely to vote for a presidential candidate who celebrates the wide diversity of Americans or the shared values of Americans?

#41 Which presidential candidate do you think is most committed to the country's cultural diversity?

We have the potential to have an honest to God candidate for president that is either mixed-race or a woman. Sure, we've had people running for the white house before that were not white men, but they were broadly regarded as jokes. This time it's for real. These are both very pertinent questions and neither can be regarded as racist or hate-filled.

To answer #40, I'd vote for someone that represents my beliefs. I would never vote for someone solely based on race. That being said, I'd love to see a president that supports my beliefs and isn't white.

Can't answer #41, I simply don't know.

Originally Posted by Ninong

#42 Which presidential candidate do you think is most committed to the country's unity?

What is racist or hate-filled here? It's a simple question. Why are you reading so much into it?

Ninong, if these questions were posted by CNN, would you be posting them here as racist and hate-filled?

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by MarkS

Ninong, if these questions were posted by CNN, would you be posting them here as racist and hate-filled?

Last time I checked, Glenn Beck was employed by CNN. Does that answer your question?

I have no love for CNN, none whatsoever.

[MarkS]

Originally Posted by Ninong

Last time I checked, Glenn Beck was employed by CNN. Does that answer your question?

Yes he is, thank God, and no it does not. He is only one conservative out of dozens of liberals.

Originally Posted by Ninong

I have no love for CNN, none whatsoever.

My point is that you do exactly the same as Fox News, but with a liberal slant. If it was not Fox that posted those questions, I doubt seriously that you'd take the stance you are taking.

I have no love for Fox News, CNN or any other news agency. They simply cannot report the news without a slant in either direction. I do not want to hear a conservative slant any more than I want to hear a liberal slant. I cannot stand Fox News and would only watch CNN for Glenn Beck.

[Ninong]

Here is what passes for "news" on CNN:

In this video clip, CNN shows Hillary Clinton pointing to Monica Lewinsky in the crowd and then they show Barack Obama pointing to Osama bin Laden in the crowd while saying, "Thank you, thank you!"

Believe it or not, that Jeanne Moos piece was on Wolf Blitzer's Situation Room, which is supposed to be a news program. CNN thought it would be hilarious to patch some tape together and make it appear that Hillary was smiling and pointing to Monica Lewinsky in the crowd and really funny to make it appear that Barack Obama was thanking Osama bin Laden for his support. Yeah, real funny. What a bunch of sicko creeps!

CNN thinks it's funny to tie Hillary Clinton to Monica Lewinsky and I guess they must think it's hilarious to tie Barack Hussein Obama to Osama bin Laden because they have done this at least three or four times in the past.

Recently, a photo of Osama bin Laden flashed across the screen during a CNN news piece on Barack Obama. And they have repeatedly misspelled Obama's name as Osama. FOX News has done the same.

I don't see anything funny in major American news organizations repeatedly associating a United States senator with a terrorist!

[MarkS]

I do not support Obama, but I despise the way he has been characterized in the media. I don't even know Hillary or McCain's middle names, but I sure know Obama's. It is rare to hear any media outlet to refer to him without using his middle name. The association inferred is quite clear and completely absurd. I'd expect that kind of an attack from a school yard bully, not a news organisation run by adults.

Originally Posted by Ninong

I don't see anything funny in major American news organizations repeatedly associating a United States senator with a terrorist!

Neither do I. But then, I also don't consider any and all questions or comments dealing with race to be "racist". That is too important of a term to be given such a loose association.

[Ninong]

The questions in the FOX News poll are loaded questions. FOX does this with all of their polls. Many of their questions are so obviously biased as to be laughable. Such is the case with the four questions I quoted.

I don't expect you to agree with my assessment of those questions and I doubt that anything I might add would change your mind, so we will just drop that issue.

I find those four questions despicable and designed to promote division. You do not.

[MarkS]

Originally Posted by Ninong

I don't expect you to agree with my assessment of those questions and I doubt that anything I might add would change your mind, so we will just drop that issue.

I find those four questions despicable and designed to promote division. You do not.

Maybe if I understood your reasoning, I might be inclined to agree with you. I'm just not reading what you're reading. Maybe we should move this discussion to the other thread?

[Ninong]

"Conservative" is not a word that comes to mind when someone mentions the name, Glenn Beck. Alcoholic, drug addict, those words come to mind, but not conservative.

Glenn Beck is a conservative in the same sense that comedian Rush Limbaugh is a conservative. Or Michael Savage or Ann Coulter. What a lovely bunch of "conservatives."

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by MarkS

Maybe if I understood your reasoning, I might be inclined to agree with you. I'm just not reading what you're reading.

You don't see the racism inherent in setting up "cultural diversity" as the opposite of "unity and shared values?" This is a straw man. Inherent in these questions is the proposition that cultural diversity is incompatible with unity.

This fits right in with FOX's John Gibson warning his audience that white people had better start having more babies because Latinos were breeding like rabbits and our way of life was in danger. Pat Buchanan wrote on book on the same theme, warning that America was being overrun by Mexicans and other people who don't look like him. Heaven forbid, according to Pat, we might end up like France.

FOX News has repeatedly used racist comments when talking about Barack Obama. That's why he refuses to appear on their trashy network.

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FOX News has repeatedly associated Barack Obama with communists and terrorists.

Discussing Sen. Barack Obama's appeal with voters on the February 21, 2008 edition of Fox News' Special Report, Fox News broadcast footage of Obama saying, "I'm going to blow my nose here for a second," followed by the audience cheering. Fox News Washington correspondent James Rosen then said, "That kind of spontaneous affection Chairman Mao only dreamed of."

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Recovering alcoholic-dope head, Glenn Beck, has repeatedly associated the Democratic candidates with communists:

On the January 24, 2008 edition of his CNN Headline News program, Glenn Beck called Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton "Comrade Clinton" and said of former Sen. John Edwards, "Now, put a red star on his furry head. He's a communist."