Need help

[scrappyd10]

hi i just bought a black tip reef shark and i was wondering how big of a tank i would need. I want it to be at minimum 300' long and 100' wide and 10' high. money is no problem and the tank will be at my house. i also want to turn it into a reef if that helps.
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[scrappyd10]

shark tank huge reef design

[Parrothead]

Not trying to be a smart a!@, but you will need a swimming pool

[scrappyd10]

its alright that wasnt really a smart@ answer. and if your serious would you reccomend that

[scrappyd10]

just remember that im serious i will spend three million dollars on this tank max

[Ninong]

hi i just bought a black tip reef shark...

You can't be serious! It should be illegal to sell these to private citizens. Only huge public aquariums are capable of keeping these fish. This fish has an adult size of approximately six feet.

... and i was wondering how big of a tank i would need.

A minimum of about 30,000 gallons!

I want it to be at minimum 300' long and 100' wide and 10' high.

That works out to 2,244,155 gallons!

... money is no problem...

That's good because your tank will be about 2-1/2 times as large as the main display at the Monterey Bay Aquarium and will probably cost well over $100 million including equipment.

... and the tank will be at my house.

That's nice. Will your house be part of the tour?

i also want to turn it into a reef if that helps.

It would be about ten times as large as the largest public aquarium reef exhibit that I know of. Good luck!

P.S. -- Your skilter filter won't be adequate for your new aquarium.

[zhenya]

Wow!

I thought people gave up keeping these and sand sharks in private homes. I wonder what drives people into doing it?

[Ninong]

Wow!

I thought people gave up keeping these and sand sharks in private homes. I wonder what drives people into doing it?

Gene,

He's not serious. He posted this thread at 1:07 a.m. 10:07 p.m. his time via mobile device. His present tank has "a skilter filter that came with a protein skimmer," according to one of his recent posts.

I think he was probably out having a good time last night and thought it would be a good idea to post something like this. I'm surprised he's still awake.

[kevinpo]

Some things to consider,
Just the salt alone would cost about $225,000. The maintenance would be more than 3 million per year. The lighting system about 2 million. You're location says Norwalk if it's California then the electricity cost would be would be very high and would require a small substation to be built just for the tank. With the recent brown and black outs they have experienced you would have to get some type of backup power supply or special permission from the state legislature to have uninterrupted power supply.
The main display tank at the Georgia aquarium is about the size you are inquiring about and it cost more than 150 million IIRC.

Regards,
Kevin

[Parrothead]

I think he finally passed out

[scrappyd10]

hi again and i am sorry because yesterday was my anniversy and i did get drunk............... by accident. i am however not kidding about the black tip reef shark. i may have made ridiculous measurements by accident . it is not illegal for me because i am head of the marine conservation society and i because of my income i am able to support these animals. And ar for the skilter filter this is originally my sons acount and if wanted to make an aquarium so i told him he has to figure out things for himself.

[Ninong]

i am however not kidding about the black tip reef shark. it is not illegal for me because i am head of the marine conservation society...

I said it should be illegal. It's not illegal for anyone to buy this fish, but it should be.

I know of a few private residences that have gigantic aquariums (several thousand gallons) on the ground floor that originally including a black-tip or two but I have no idea how long they survived. Those people usually have a professional aquarium maintenance company that handles ALL of the maintenance for them. We're talking about aquariums in excess of 10,000 gallons. I doubt that these fish can be kept very long in a tank much smaller than 20,000 gallons, at a minimum. The black-tip exhibit at the Waikiki Aquarium is larger than 30,000 gallons.

I would agree with Robert Fenner's conclusion on this species: "Yes, I've seen this species kept in captivity, in public and private settings. It can be done, but the vast majority of trials result in short lived, traumatized owners and dead sharks. Try a more suitable species if so inclined to shark keeping."

[scrappyd10]

well thank you but can you send of the dimensions of the waikiki aquarium

[Ninong]

I posted photos of the Waikiki Aquarium's black-tip exhibit seven years ago, Post #4 in this thread, but unfortunately all of those pictures were lost in a software upgrade. I posted the same thread on two other reefkeeping bulletin boards but those pics were lost, too.

I just checked the Waikiki Aquarium's Web site and apparently they are in the process of upgrading their site because there are no photos of their Hunters on the Reef exhibit, in fact, they don't even have their floor plan on their new site.

I just googled for "Hunters on the Reef + Waikiki Aquarium" and came up with only one image and it shows only the side porthole window, not the front pane.

According to my previous thread from seven years ago, this tank is 35,000 gallons. I don't remember the exact dimensions but if it's 30' x 15' x 10' that would work out to a little less than 34,000 gallons. So I guess it's somewhere in that range. It's hard to tell depth (front to back distance) when you're looking through the front of any tank. I remember that it had a sandy bottom and nothing but large imitation rocks for decoration inside the tank.

A tank like that would run way more than $3 million.

[Parrothead]

I gonna make this simple, here is a quote from a fellow member here:

"Ok with that being said you have to understand that we here at reefland have a passion for reeftanks and marine life its not just some hobby for most of us."

JMHO:
What you are thinking of doing is just plain wrong, if you are the head of a "Marine Conservation Society" you would not be attempting what you propose. Also you should have contacts at the Waikiki Aquarium that would probably tell you the same thing, even if you go by Ninong's smallest figure 10,000 Gallons, you are literally putting a swimming pool inside your home, and then its a crap shoot whether you can actually keep this poor creature that should have been left alone alive. I for one find what you want to do to be animal cruelty, that is my opinion and I am entitled to it, as are you.

E.G. - I live in a 3 bedroom Single Wide Mobile Home, what you are proposing is the same as me saying I bought a Snow Tiger cub, and I gonna raise it in my home, full grown, they can reach 12 feet from nose to tip of tail. Hey I've got the money, but is it right to do that to the animal.

Think about what you are doing and be real.

Robert

P.S. What Marine Conservation Society are you the head of?