Arite Govna's, I need some Fish/Refugium Advice, Thank you kindly.

Tha One Crumcake · 02-11-2002, 02:20 AM

Okay, I have this 50 gallon Tub (36" long x 16" wide x water level is only 7-8"), with about 4" of aragonite, Buncha silly mangroves and a buncha silly rubble rock.

I plan on adding a bunch of silly macros, and throwing my Red sea pulsing xenia chunks from my main tank into this tub. These xenias grow faster than a 16 year watchin Pam Anderson porn on Viagra and Yohimbine HCL caps, so I was thinking of using them as a nutrient export device along with the mangroves and macros.

I want a 1' by 1' "field" of xenia. I can visualize it now.

The lighting for all this will be one 175watt 10k bulb.

Now my question is, I want to maybe add a Mated pair of any fish in here.

What would u guys recommend? Keep in mind this will also be a refugium so I would want a fish that won't totally deccimate the pod population.

Perhaps a pair of bangaii cardinals?
Pair of Clarkii clowns or Gold stripped maroon, possibly with a BTA.
Hmmm Sea Horses? Hmmmmm PIPE FISH?? Hmmmmmm.... I'm getting more and more ideas..Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Thanks

Tha One Crumcake · 02-13-2002, 09:40 PM

MarkS · 02-14-2002, 03:00 AM

I really cannot help much with the fish advice, except to tell you not to add a pipe fish or seahorse. They WILL eat all of the pods...

However, and this is just my opinion, people would probably reply faster if you cut out the fake gangsta talk. It's kind of hard to take you seriously. JMO.

Mark

Tha One Crumcake · 02-14-2002, 04:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkS
However, and this is just my opinion, people would probably reply faster if you cut out the fake gangsta talk. It's kind of hard to take you seriously. JMO.

Mark

Did you just call me a "Fake Gangsta", hmmm ... interesting yet provocative.

Thanks for help Govna'.

organicreefer · 02-14-2002, 01:52 PM

fake gangsta?!?!?
hes obviously imitating an older southern gentleman ,who calls everyone "govna"

bangaii cardinals get my vote for such an enviroment.

MarkS · 02-15-2002, 03:38 AM

I really can't tell. Seems to be a mix between old South and Gangsta talk. Needless to say, I have trouble reading the threads and really have trouble believing anyone who has to write in anything other than plain english. Not an attack or anything, but JMO.

Mark

dattack · 02-15-2002, 03:56 AM

Peace Bro.

Tha One Crumcake · 02-15-2002, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MarkS
I really can't tell. Seems to be a mix between old South and Gangsta talk. Needless to say, I have trouble reading the threads and really have trouble believing anyone who has to write in anything other than plain english. Not an attack or anything, but JMO.

Mark

Hey Mark,

I really can't tell what you Are talking about. Seems to be a mix of Jibberish and Jibba-Jabba. Needless to say, I have trouble reading the threads and really have trouble believing anyone who has to write in anything other than plain english. Not an attack or anything, but JMO.

Dattack - LoL! Word to the motha'.

Tha One Crumcake · 02-15-2002, 04:04 AM

I post a thread asking for legitamite advice and get Flamed by a Mod. Very nice, thank you MarkSnoopdog. I appreciate your help.

PerryinCA · 02-15-2002, 05:40 AM

TOC,

I cruise EF, and know exactly what you were talking about.

still want some yohimburn. Anyway, I would stay away from the horses and pipefish, they are mard to maintain and likely won't last long. Husbandry for them isn't really known for them right now.

A pair of clowns, or perhaps some captive bred dottybacks would be interesting, and if kept happy could likely result in offspring. Stay away from Mandarins, andthings that rely mainly on pods for a food source. Having some algae in the tank will also provide 'pod breeding grounds.

As for the language thing, I understood what TOC was saying, and it wsn't gangster gibberish, but more supplement/pharmacuetical talk. While not exactly the proper content for a reef site, I don't find it to be vulgar or any kind of attack so don't really feel that response was totally nescessitated Mark. Just a case of metaphorical miscommunitcation. In any case, play nice yall.

Oh, and I don't think Mark is a Mod or Admin part of the board, butis an active member. The citizenship changes with more posts.

-Perry

dznuts007 · 02-15-2002, 06:03 AM

Hmm...I'm not the smartest person in the world, but for some reason, no matter how many times I read ThaOneCrumcake's post, I can't seem to find any hint of gangster talk.

For some reason, people are just too ready to flame others, maybe it's because they have nothing else going for them in their life, or they simply have nothing better to do. On some other board, I recently read a whole thread of some poor guy getting flamed constantly until he finally retaliated back, which ended up getting him banned. You push a person, he will push back. No need for this kind of stuff so knock it off...these forums are for help and information. If you can't reply with a helpful comment or with constructive criticism, don't post at all.

***Reefland*** · 02-15-2002, 07:06 AM

Let's keep the discussion on topic.

For fish, perhaps a pair of Ocellaris Clowns.

Scott Z.

Tha One Crumcake · 02-15-2002, 11:50 AM

Perry, check your PM.

ReefLand, quick question regarding perc's, I know there are "True" Percs (Amphiprion percula) and "False" Percs (Amphiprion ocellaris)..

...I recently aquire a pair of "True" percs, but aren't the "True" and "False" fish the same exact Species? Can you breed a Percula with an Ocellaris? Aren't these actually the exact same fish, just with different morphs of coloration?

hcp28 · 02-15-2002, 12:17 PM

Maybe he edited out the mad rhymes yo! He musta be timted by yo mad cryings G. wait a second did I say that? anyways I think you should forget the fish. I mean it's going to be a nutrient export and it's going to be a 50 gallon tub, I'm assuming rubbermaid or something of that nature. First you won't be able to see much inside if you have a field of xenia, and second it will probably end up hidden away because it is just a big tub full of xenia. I'd say scrap the fish in the tub idea and maybe get some more fish for your main tank if you be buggin to add mo fish yo. you must be rollin in some mad cash yo or you won't be buggin about mo fish... yeah.

Yeah East Coast from Coast to Coast

Henry

PerryinCA · 02-15-2002, 03:21 PM

TOC,

The ocellaris, and true percs are difference species, although the diffrences are pretty minor in many cases. The percs tend to have thicker black coloration surrounding the white stripes. They also have more doral 'spines' than thier "false" counterpart (or is it the other way around?). They can also grow to different sizes. They are very similar, but due to these differences areclassified as different species.

They CAN interbreed, and likely will if they pair up.

I agree Scott, lets not stray from the topic.

-Perry

FishKid · 02-15-2002, 04:06 PM

Yo G da ways i be thinkin yo all can get so mo mad silly gobys thad be chill aight peace dawgs

mark

dznuts007 · 02-16-2002, 01:16 AM

Hah hah! I'd aks y'all but it ain't even worf it...

mrok12 · 02-16-2002, 11:58 AM

Crumb cake. Crumb cake.
First what is a gonva? I haven't a clue.

Second the xenia field is a compelling idea. Think of all those tiny white pulsing polyps waving with the current........ Breath taking I tell you.

As for fish. I think the cardinals would be cool or even a pair of ocellaris.

For us older folks though please include a Rosseta stone so we are able to decifer this cryptic code of yours.

WORD TO THE MOTHER, I THINK. JAMMING ON THE ONE

MROK12

organicreefer · 02-16-2002, 12:32 PM

yo yo yo,
lets talk bout some reef/refugium rhymin
turnover rates, and photoperiod timin
an yo,..what kinda light ya got shinin
shi so bright leavin other reefers whynin.......
and the fish in there wil be breedin,
hell no, this tank dont need no feedin,
its got detritus, in natural abundance
and dual return pumps ,so they can be redundant
its got live rock, caulerpa and a dsb.......
even thinking about a little mangrove tree
i got to spread the word how could it be
i gots to turn this jam to an mp3

couldnt resist a little "freestyle" for my "peeps"

peace out

mrok12 · 02-16-2002, 12:39 PM

pEEP THE REEF,
SEE THE WATER IS A MOVIN'
CHECK IT OUT CAUSE MROK IS GROOVIN,
KICKI'N IT LOW STYLE BUT IN THE MEANWHILE
THE RYTHM FLOWS LIKE THE FINEST WINE.

ON MY WAY TODAY TO SPEND MUCH COIN,
SPENT SO MUCH CASH HAD TO TAKE OUT A LOAN.
THIS ADDICTION HAVES GOT MY BACK AGAINST THE WALL,
TO THE LFS I CREEP AND I CRAWL.

PEACE OUT YA'LL
DETROIT REPRESENTIN

02-11-2002, 02:20 AM	#1
Tha One Crumcake Just Moved In Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: So. Cali. Posts: 43	Arite Govna's, I need some Fish/Refugium Advice, Thank you kindly. Okay, I have this 50 gallon Tub (36" long x 16" wide x water level is only 7-8"), with about 4" of aragonite, Buncha silly mangroves and a buncha silly rubble rock. I plan on adding a bunch of silly macros, and throwing my Red sea pulsing xenia chunks from my main tank into this tub. These xenias grow faster than a 16 year watchin Pam Anderson porn on Viagra and Yohimbine HCL caps, so I was thinking of using them as a nutrient export device along with the mangroves and macros. I want a 1' by 1' "field" of xenia. I can visualize it now. The lighting for all this will be one 175watt 10k bulb. Now my question is, I want to maybe add a Mated pair of any fish in here. What would u guys recommend? Keep in mind this will also be a refugium so I would want a fish that won't totally deccimate the pod population. Perhaps a pair of bangaii cardinals? Pair of Clarkii clowns or Gold stripped maroon, possibly with a BTA. Hmmm Sea Horses? Hmmmmm PIPE FISH?? Hmmmmmm.... I'm getting more and more ideas..Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Thanks __________________ I hospitalized a brick! - ALi He's no Alexander! I'M ALEXANDER! - Mike Tyson Last edited by Tha One Crumcake; 02-11-2002 at 02:23 AM.

02-13-2002, 09:40 PM	#2
Tha One Crumcake Just Moved In Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: So. Cali. Posts: 43	Bump __________________ I hospitalized a brick! - ALi He's no Alexander! I'M ALEXANDER! - Mike Tyson

02-14-2002, 03:00 AM	#3
MarkS Governor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 1,799	I really cannot help much with the fish advice, except to tell you not to add a pipe fish or seahorse. They WILL eat all of the pods... However, and this is just my opinion, people would probably reply faster if you cut out the fake gangsta talk. It's kind of hard to take you seriously. JMO. Mark __________________ 2 + 2 != 4 Two is only loosely associated with two by a plus sign and therefore doesn't enter the equation at all since it is only there by mere complicity. We shouldn't count it and leave well enough alone.

02-15-2002, 03:38 AM	#6
MarkS Governor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: San Antonio, Tx Posts: 1,799	I really can't tell. Seems to be a mix between old South and Gangsta talk. Needless to say, I have trouble reading the threads and really have trouble believing anyone who has to write in anything other than plain english. Not an attack or anything, but JMO. Mark __________________ 2 + 2 != 4 Two is only loosely associated with two by a plus sign and therefore doesn't enter the equation at all since it is only there by mere complicity. We shouldn't count it and leave well enough alone.

02-15-2002, 04:04 AM	#9
Tha One Crumcake Just Moved In Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: So. Cali. Posts: 43	I post a thread asking for legitamite advice and get Flamed by a Mod. Very nice, thank you MarkSnoopdog. I appreciate your help. __________________ I hospitalized a brick! - ALi He's no Alexander! I'M ALEXANDER! - Mike Tyson

02-14-2002, 01:52 PM	#5
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	fake gangsta?!?!? hes obviously imitating an older southern gentleman ,who calls everyone "govna" bangaii cardinals get my vote for such an enviroment.

02-15-2002, 03:56 AM	#7
dattack Council Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: anaheim, CA Posts: 347	Peace Bro.

02-15-2002, 05:40 AM	#10
PerryinCA Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 2,103	TOC, I cruise EF, and know exactly what you were talking about. still want some yohimburn. Anyway, I would stay away from the horses and pipefish, they are mard to maintain and likely won't last long. Husbandry for them isn't really known for them right now. A pair of clowns, or perhaps some captive bred dottybacks would be interesting, and if kept happy could likely result in offspring. Stay away from Mandarins, andthings that rely mainly on pods for a food source. Having some algae in the tank will also provide 'pod breeding grounds. As for the language thing, I understood what TOC was saying, and it wsn't gangster gibberish, but more supplement/pharmacuetical talk. While not exactly the proper content for a reef site, I don't find it to be vulgar or any kind of attack so don't really feel that response was totally nescessitated Mark. Just a case of metaphorical miscommunitcation. In any case, play nice yall. Oh, and I don't think Mark is a Mod or Admin part of the board, butis an active member. The citizenship changes with more posts. -Perry

02-15-2002, 06:03 AM	#11
dznuts007 Just Moved In Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 12	Hmm...I'm not the smartest person in the world, but for some reason, no matter how many times I read ThaOneCrumcake's post, I can't seem to find any hint of gangster talk. For some reason, people are just too ready to flame others, maybe it's because they have nothing else going for them in their life, or they simply have nothing better to do. On some other board, I recently read a whole thread of some poor guy getting flamed constantly until he finally retaliated back, which ended up getting him banned. You push a person, he will push back. No need for this kind of stuff so knock it off...these forums are for help and information. If you can't reply with a helpful comment or with constructive criticism, don't post at all.

02-15-2002, 07:06 AM	#12
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,031	Let's keep the discussion on topic. For fish, perhaps a pair of Ocellaris Clowns. Scott Z.

02-15-2002, 11:50 AM	#13
Tha One Crumcake Just Moved In Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: So. Cali. Posts: 43	Perry, check your PM. ReefLand, quick question regarding perc's, I know there are "True" Percs (Amphiprion percula) and "False" Percs (Amphiprion ocellaris).. ...I recently aquire a pair of "True" percs, but aren't the "True" and "False" fish the same exact Species? Can you breed a Percula with an Ocellaris? Aren't these actually the exact same fish, just with different morphs of coloration? __________________ I hospitalized a brick! - ALi He's no Alexander! I'M ALEXANDER! - Mike Tyson

02-15-2002, 12:17 PM	#14
hcp28 Evil Czar Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,001	Maybe he edited out the mad rhymes yo! He musta be timted by yo mad cryings G. wait a second did I say that? anyways I think you should forget the fish. I mean it's going to be a nutrient export and it's going to be a 50 gallon tub, I'm assuming rubbermaid or something of that nature. First you won't be able to see much inside if you have a field of xenia, and second it will probably end up hidden away because it is just a big tub full of xenia. I'd say scrap the fish in the tub idea and maybe get some more fish for your main tank if you be buggin to add mo fish yo. you must be rollin in some mad cash yo or you won't be buggin about mo fish... yeah. Yeah East Coast from Coast to Coast Henry __________________ Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall down an open manhole and die. -Mel Brooks

02-15-2002, 03:21 PM	#15
PerryinCA Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 2,103	TOC, The ocellaris, and true percs are difference species, although the diffrences are pretty minor in many cases. The percs tend to have thicker black coloration surrounding the white stripes. They also have more doral 'spines' than thier "false" counterpart (or is it the other way around?). They can also grow to different sizes. They are very similar, but due to these differences areclassified as different species. They CAN interbreed, and likely will if they pair up. I agree Scott, lets not stray from the topic. -Perry

02-15-2002, 04:06 PM	#16
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	Yo G da ways i be thinkin yo all can get so mo mad silly gobys thad be chill aight peace dawgs mark

02-16-2002, 01:16 AM	#17
dznuts007 Just Moved In Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 12	Hah hah! I'd aks y'all but it ain't even worf it...

02-16-2002, 11:58 AM	#18
mrok12 Mayor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Van Buren, MI Posts: 1,052	Crumb cake. Crumb cake. First what is a gonva? I haven't a clue. Second the xenia field is a compelling idea. Think of all those tiny white pulsing polyps waving with the current........ Breath taking I tell you. As for fish. I think the cardinals would be cool or even a pair of ocellaris. For us older folks though please include a Rosseta stone so we are able to decifer this cryptic code of yours. WORD TO THE MOTHER, I THINK. JAMMING ON THE ONE MROK12

02-16-2002, 12:32 PM	#19
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	hip hop reefers forum ...maybe??? yo yo yo, lets talk bout some reef/refugium rhymin turnover rates, and photoperiod timin an yo,..what kinda light ya got shinin shi so bright leavin other reefers whynin....... and the fish in there wil be breedin, hell no, this tank dont need no feedin, its got detritus, in natural abundance and dual return pumps ,so they can be redundant its got live rock, caulerpa and a dsb....... even thinking about a little mangrove tree i got to spread the word how could it be i gots to turn this jam to an mp3 couldnt resist a little "freestyle" for my "peeps" peace out

02-16-2002, 12:39 PM	#20
mrok12 Mayor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Van Buren, MI Posts: 1,052	pEEP THE REEF, SEE THE WATER IS A MOVIN' CHECK IT OUT CAUSE MROK IS GROOVIN, KICKI'N IT LOW STYLE BUT IN THE MEANWHILE THE RYTHM FLOWS LIKE THE FINEST WINE. ON MY WAY TODAY TO SPEND MUCH COIN, SPENT SO MUCH CASH HAD TO TAKE OUT A LOAN. THIS ADDICTION HAVES GOT MY BACK AGAINST THE WALL, TO THE LFS I CREEP AND I CRAWL. PEACE OUT YA'LL DETROIT REPRESENTIN

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