alien ware pc

FishKid · 03-10-2002, 05:53 PM

after i get set on car payments, and a couple customizations for my ride (amp,sub.woofer, tweeters, cd changer, head set, rims, new paintjob - paint chipped off the spoiler-, tint job ya no the usual) im gonna get a custom built alienware pc

cant wait

hardest part is choosing the colors

mark

***Reefland*** · 03-10-2002, 06:06 PM

What is an alien ware pc?

Scott Z.

PerryinCA · 03-10-2002, 07:03 PM

I think its a P.C. (you know....computer

). I think they are geared toward the gamers.....

If I am right...can I ask why you wouldn't want to build one on your own? Less expensive, and a great thing to learn. Mine still kicks butt....and its almost 6 months old (yet to be outdated, or slow on anything I've thrown at it). Best of all, only paid a little over a grand (similar computers are still more expensive now).

-Perry

icemark · 03-11-2002, 12:20 AM

I agree with Perry, cheaper to build your own, and although the Alienware PCs are easily upgraded (as they are very oriented towards First time gamers who will typically build their 2nd or 3rd computer), you will learn more if build a PC yourself.

Aragorn · 03-11-2002, 01:32 AM

Agreed,

Build your own. My kids see the adds in the Gaming rags and they all laugh cuz their dad(me) built them a better machine for less. If you'd like some pointers, drop me a line and I'll be happy to spec you a machine. For example, last week I upgraded my machine. I'm a PC snob so I buy nothing but the best. Here's an outline for a superior platform:

ASUS P4T-E motherboard(top quality, endless overclocking combo's)
Intel P4 1.7GHz Socket 478 CPU
1GB of RDRAM(400MHz bus speed)
SoundBlaster Audigy Platinum(AWESOME sound!!!)
Lian-Li All Aluminum Mid-Tower Case, brushed aluminum finish

And of course 80GB's of Hard Disk Space on Seagate Barracuda's in a SCSI Array off of an Adaptec 39160 SCSI Host Adapter(no IDE drive can touch this combo!!!)

Currently, I've overclocked this setup to 1.88 GHz without a single "hiccup". Gonna bump it up beyond 2GHz this weekend.

Anyway, the above spec's(I've left out some items but you get the picture) are WAY cheaper than what you'll pay at AlienWare's website. Be glad to help if you're interested.

***Reefland*** · 03-11-2002, 02:29 AM

Gonna any tips for my P II 333, 196mb SDRAM? Anything I can do besides dumping the dino?

Scott Z.

Aragorn · 03-11-2002, 02:38 AM

Just PM'd ya Scott.

mr9iron · 03-11-2002, 03:53 AM

Aragorn, could you help me with my system. Its a Hp 533mhz intelceleron with a voodoo graphics card. The model is 6935 I belive, and I want either to buy or upgrade this sucker to a fast gaming computer.

Aragorn · 03-11-2002, 10:54 AM

Unfortunately since it's an HP I'm gonna recommend that you scrap the machine and build(or buy) as "generic" a machine as possible. HP, Dell, Gateway, Compaq...these companies don't design and/or manufacture their motherboards/PC's with the upgrader in mind. One certainly cannot overclock an one of these platforms due to the lack of options in the CMOS/BIOS.

The Intel Celeron is a good overclocker...but you have to match the CPU with a motherboard that will allow you to overclock. Is building a new machine something you'd like to do? If you'd like me to spec a gaming platform, email me and I'll be glad to help(spec it, find the best price etc.).

FishKid · 03-11-2002, 05:30 PM

hey dave (can i be your kid too?

) you got mail

I know what you mean! I have 2 compaqs and they both came wit generic POS video cards

my best pc was bought the day before intel launched the advertising campaign for the pentium 3

so i cant wait to get this thing!

mark

Aragorn · 03-11-2002, 05:39 PM

Email'd ya back w/ my opinion and suggestions. Overall you made good choices. BTW, if you're eventually gonna overclock your machine. Get a good HeatSink and Fan combo(ThermalTake Volcano 7+). A real good chassis(all aluminum) can't hurt either(Lian-Li cases). HTH

FishKid · 03-11-2002, 06:59 PM

i forgot to include a fan system in the list *kicks self* ill read the email in a few minutes

Aragorn · 03-11-2002, 08:49 PM

So ya gonna go w/ the 1.7GHz or the 1.8GHz Northwood?
(hear Dave whisper..."Northwood, get the Northwood")

FishKid · 03-11-2002, 09:31 PM

i didnt include that in the email did i... of course the Northwood! i cant wait to see this thing in action!

PerryinCA · 03-12-2002, 11:40 PM

Three letters...... AMD!!!!!!

Thats all I have to Say....

Ok, maybe not all. The Intel isn't a bad chip, but half of the money goes to the advertising. Go with the AMD. From long term users, its supposed to be more stable, and better handles the overclocking. Most of my info came from Geek.com. Not saying Dave don't know what he's talking about.

If it wan't for him I would have ended up buying another crappy pre-made, and not spent the hour putting it together myself.

-Perry

FishKid · 03-13-2002, 03:38 PM

i know AMD's are great but i have a bad history with them ( i had 2 pcs with them and they sucked big time!) I almost got in a fight over which is better amd or intel (that would be funny: Principle: "why were you boys fighting" me: "he said my intel was wack"

)

i heard someone, like 2 days ago, say that amd's are awesome for overclocking but arent as good as intels at handling multitasking (sounded wierd to me)

mark

PerryinCA · 03-14-2002, 04:43 PM

It really depends on what you are using it for. In reality, unled you are doing extrememly intense 3d rendering ,while compiling large VB projects, while watching a movie off the hardrive, and playing the latest graphics intensive game, you probably won't notice a difference.

AMD makes an awesome chip, and beyond that, they are dirt cheap compared to a comparable chip.

I see the athlon xp 2000 for about 230, and the intel Pent4 2.0 for around 360. For that price difference you could add a gig of DDR. Northwood is on the forefront of chip manufacturing with the .13 mic, but seriously, goto geek.com and read some of the comparisons. The intel is just as much a 2.0 gig as a 10k blueline lamp is 10k.

Just my opinion.

-Perry

03-10-2002, 05:53 PM	#1
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	alien ware pc after i get set on car payments, and a couple customizations for my ride (amp,sub.woofer, tweeters, cd changer, head set, rims, new paintjob - paint chipped off the spoiler-, tint job ya no the usual) im gonna get a custom built alienware pc cant wait hardest part is choosing the colors mark

03-10-2002, 06:06 PM	#2
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,044	Hey Fishkid! What is an alien ware pc? Scott Z.

03-11-2002, 12:20 AM	#4
icemark Governor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Rohnert Park, CA, USA Posts: 1,102	I agree with Perry, cheaper to build your own, and although the Alienware PCs are easily upgraded (as they are very oriented towards First time gamers who will typically build their 2nd or 3rd computer), you will learn more if build a PC yourself. __________________ Play well Mark www.mazdamark.com

03-11-2002, 01:32 AM	#5
Aragorn Governor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pine Grove, CA USA Posts: 2,064	Agreed, Build your own. My kids see the adds in the Gaming rags and they all laugh cuz their dad(me) built them a better machine for less. If you'd like some pointers, drop me a line and I'll be happy to spec you a machine. For example, last week I upgraded my machine. I'm a PC snob so I buy nothing but the best. Here's an outline for a superior platform: ASUS P4T-E motherboard(top quality, endless overclocking combo's) Intel P4 1.7GHz Socket 478 CPU 1GB of RDRAM(400MHz bus speed) SoundBlaster Audigy Platinum(AWESOME sound!!!) Lian-Li All Aluminum Mid-Tower Case, brushed aluminum finish And of course 80GB's of Hard Disk Space on Seagate Barracuda's in a SCSI Array off of an Adaptec 39160 SCSI Host Adapter(no IDE drive can touch this combo!!!) Currently, I've overclocked this setup to 1.88 GHz without a single "hiccup". Gonna bump it up beyond 2GHz this weekend. Anyway, the above spec's(I've left out some items but you get the picture) are WAY cheaper than what you'll pay at AlienWare's website. Be glad to help if you're interested. __________________ "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."

03-11-2002, 02:29 AM	#6
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,044	Hey Aragorn! Gonna any tips for my P II 333, 196mb SDRAM? Anything I can do besides dumping the dino? Scott Z.

03-10-2002, 07:03 PM	#3
PerryinCA Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 2,103	I think its a P.C. (you know....computer ). I think they are geared toward the gamers..... If I am right...can I ask why you wouldn't want to build one on your own? Less expensive, and a great thing to learn. Mine still kicks butt....and its almost 6 months old (yet to be outdated, or slow on anything I've thrown at it). Best of all, only paid a little over a grand (similar computers are still more expensive now). -Perry

03-11-2002, 02:38 AM	#7
Aragorn Governor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pine Grove, CA USA Posts: 2,064	Just PM'd ya Scott. __________________ "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."

03-11-2002, 03:53 AM	#8
mr9iron Citizen Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Clinton mo Posts: 203	Aragorn, could you help me with my system. Its a Hp 533mhz intelceleron with a voodoo graphics card. The model is 6935 I belive, and I want either to buy or upgrade this sucker to a fast gaming computer. __________________ Nano Freak. Can you blame me? Vinces Nano

03-11-2002, 10:54 AM	#9
Aragorn Governor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pine Grove, CA USA Posts: 2,064	Unfortunately since it's an HP I'm gonna recommend that you scrap the machine and build(or buy) as "generic" a machine as possible. HP, Dell, Gateway, Compaq...these companies don't design and/or manufacture their motherboards/PC's with the upgrader in mind. One certainly cannot overclock an one of these platforms due to the lack of options in the CMOS/BIOS. The Intel Celeron is a good overclocker...but you have to match the CPU with a motherboard that will allow you to overclock. Is building a new machine something you'd like to do? If you'd like me to spec a gaming platform, email me and I'll be glad to help(spec it, find the best price etc.). __________________ "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."

03-11-2002, 05:30 PM	#10
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	hey dave (can i be your kid too? ) you got mail I know what you mean! I have 2 compaqs and they both came wit generic POS video cards my best pc was bought the day before intel launched the advertising campaign for the pentium 3 so i cant wait to get this thing! mark

03-11-2002, 05:39 PM	#11
Aragorn Governor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pine Grove, CA USA Posts: 2,064	Email'd ya back w/ my opinion and suggestions. Overall you made good choices. BTW, if you're eventually gonna overclock your machine. Get a good HeatSink and Fan combo(ThermalTake Volcano 7+). A real good chassis(all aluminum) can't hurt either(Lian-Li cases). HTH __________________ "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."

03-11-2002, 06:59 PM	#12
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	i forgot to include a fan system in the list kicks self ill read the email in a few minutes

03-11-2002, 08:49 PM	#13
Aragorn Governor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Pine Grove, CA USA Posts: 2,064	So ya gonna go w/ the 1.7GHz or the 1.8GHz Northwood? (hear Dave whisper..."Northwood, get the Northwood") __________________ "It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."

03-11-2002, 09:31 PM	#14
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	i didnt include that in the email did i... of course the Northwood! i cant wait to see this thing in action!

03-12-2002, 11:40 PM	#15
PerryinCA Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 2,103	Three letters...... AMD!!!!!! Thats all I have to Say.... Ok, maybe not all. The Intel isn't a bad chip, but half of the money goes to the advertising. Go with the AMD. From long term users, its supposed to be more stable, and better handles the overclocking. Most of my info came from Geek.com. Not saying Dave don't know what he's talking about. If it wan't for him I would have ended up buying another crappy pre-made, and not spent the hour putting it together myself. -Perry

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03-13-2002, 03:38 PM	#16
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	i know AMD's are great but i have a bad history with them ( i had 2 pcs with them and they sucked big time!) I almost got in a fight over which is better amd or intel (that would be funny: Principle: "why were you boys fighting" me: "he said my intel was wack" ) i heard someone, like 2 days ago, say that amd's are awesome for overclocking but arent as good as intels at handling multitasking (sounded wierd to me) mark

03-14-2002, 04:43 PM	#17
PerryinCA Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 2,103	It really depends on what you are using it for. In reality, unled you are doing extrememly intense 3d rendering ,while compiling large VB projects, while watching a movie off the hardrive, and playing the latest graphics intensive game, you probably won't notice a difference. AMD makes an awesome chip, and beyond that, they are dirt cheap compared to a comparable chip. I see the athlon xp 2000 for about 230, and the intel Pent4 2.0 for around 360. For that price difference you could add a gig of DDR. Northwood is on the forefront of chip manufacturing with the .13 mic, but seriously, goto geek.com and read some of the comparisons. The intel is just as much a 2.0 gig as a 10k blueline lamp is 10k. Just my opinion. -Perry

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