[Ninong]

And the winner is: Option No. 3

Price chart for Exxon-Mobil stock from October 1, 2002 - December 31, 2004:
http://data.moneycentral.msn.com/scr...D3=0&D5=0&E1=0

Price chart for Chevron Texaco stock from October 1, 2002 - December 31, 2004:
http://data.moneycentral.msn.com/scr...D3=0&D5=0&E1=0

Price chart for British Petroleum stock from October 1, 2002 - December 31, 2004:
http://data.moneycentral.msn.com/scr...D3=0&D5=0&E1=0

People who followed Dr. Scott's advice on Oct. 20, 2002 and purchased oil company stocks did very well indeed.

[Poseidon]

Almost makes me ILL!!

[schrocat]

Originally Posted by Ninong

Boy, is this an old thread!

Don't you just hate it when things go exactly as you feared they would?

Four more years of Team Rapture! Pray for impeachment.


P.S. -- To all our Canadian and Australian members: I didn't vote for him! So don't blame me if he invades your country next.

Ahh shuddup and play the nickle slots with your soon-to-be issued social security equity access card like the rest of us!

[Ninong]

Says who?!!










Says the CIA, that's who: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...ck=1&cset=true

[acer]

Originally Posted by Ninong

Boy, is this an old thread!

Don't you just hate it when things go exactly as you feared they would?

Four more years of Team Rapture! Pray for impeachment.


P.S. -- To all our Canadian and Australian members: I didn't vote for him! So don't blame me if he invades your country next.

Get over it. I suppose the first free elections in Iraq mean nothing?!! The first time a woman can actually speak without fear of death, the first time a person actually might get out from under tyranny, etc. I suppose you think we should let the UN take care of it and just keep giving them money so they can skim it into their own pockets. Can you say (oil for food program). Saddam was a bad guy- given the chance he would have continued to help anyone, anyhow he could if it meant death/damage to the USA or anyone else who opposed him. Having a democratic county in the middle east is soo much more important for the future than most realize. This hot bed of fear/poverty/etc. would certainly have caused major problems if Saddm continued in power in the future. I am not, repeat not, a Bush fan. But, I do not beleive we ( the USA) had much choice. Remember more people died in 911 than have died in the whole Iraq campain to date. The servicemen and women that gave their lives for freedom and the democratic way of life are heroes, but they did sign up for their own reasons- no one was drafted. I just pray we can get out soon and let the Iraq people govern themselves.

Sorry for the rant!!! Just can't stand people that are critical without actually having a plan of their own= Senator Kerry and the Democrates in general.

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by acer

I suppose you think we should let the UN take care of it and just keep giving them money so they can skim it into their own pockets. Can you say (oil for food program).

Can you say Halliburton? Do you realize how many different criminal investigations are underway right now involving this company? How many hundreds of millions of dollars they have skimmed?

At least they're being more upfront about it, finally. The new budget request from the President includes another $80 billion for Iraq, which includes $3.6 billion for Halliburton's KBR division to continue providing the services they contracted to provide in their no-bid contract. However, KBR advised the Army in December that their expenses during that period (May 1, 2005-April 30,2006) would amount to at least $10 billion. The Army and KBR (Halliburton) are now negotiating to close the gap. That's quite a gap.

Do you know how much our own government's investigation has said that the Coalition Provisional Authority (Bremer, remember him?) misallocated or simply cannot account for? Try $9 billion!!! Much of it was paid to nonexistent Iraqi government employees and pals of Cheney and Rumsfeld's former friend, Ahmad Chalabi. Nine billion bucks missing and unaccounted for according to our own investigation. Bremer says we did the best we could under the extraordinarily difficult circumstances.

Saddam was a bad guy-

Yes. So what? He used to be our bad guy when he was beating up on the Iranians. We supported him and supplied him. We even gave him satellite recon photos of the battlefield.

While Rumsfeld was over there getting his picture taken shaking hands with Saddam (as a special envoy from President Reagan), Saddam was gassing people with chemicals purchased from the U.S., Germany and France.

There are a lot of bad guys in this world and many of them were our former puppets. Look at Cuba (Batista) and Nicaragua (Somoza) and Panama (Noreiga) and Iran (Pahlavi) and on and on. Look at the corrupt monarchies in Saudia Arabia, Kuwait, Jordan, etc. that we support. Look at the repressive, undemocratic regime in Egypt that we support with more aid than any other country besides Israel.

What about North Korea? What about Iran? What about Sudan? What about Rwanda back when they were killing hundreds of thousands of their own people? I can think of lots of bad guys. We don't take out bad guys simply because they are bad. We're not that altruistic.

Iraq was NOT an imminent threat to the security of the United States any more than Cuba is today. (BTW, I can cite any number of 4 star generals who agree with that statement.) Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were committed to invading Iraq before Bush even took the oath of office for his first term. This was not a necessary war and it was sold to the American public with a series of lies and misrepresentations. We weren't satisfied with the wishy-washy intel from the CIA so the Department of Defense formed their own little team under Doug Feith http://www.defenselink.mil/bios/feith_bio.html (who's finally leaving) to go over all the stale intel and rewrite it, changing all the may-have's to has, etc. These are the geniuses who paid Ahmad Chalabi to find "defectors" who would freely give us "intel" on Saddam's weapons programs in exchange for good ole American dollars and a new job and I.D.

We knew for a certainty that those aluminum tubes were NOT for nuclear power plants because our own experts told us so, but we went ahead and said they were. We knew that Saddam did not try to buy nuclear material in Africa as the British thought, yet we used that phony story anyway and simply said "according to the British." We sent our own ambassador to Africa to check it out and when he said the story was phony, we outed his wife as a covert CIA agent. That was done right there in our own little BushCo admin if you count Cheney's staff.

Remember more people died in 911 than have died in the whole Iraq campain to date.

Are you only counting coalition troops? What about Iraqi National Guards? What about Iraqi civilians? According to the respected British medical journal, the Lanclet, the total fatalities among Iraqis is now over 100,000 since March 2003.

The fact that you are still tying 9/11 with Iraq just proves how effective the administration's campaign of misinformation and misrepresentation truly was.

The servicemen and women that gave their lives for freedom and the democratic way of life are heroes, but they did sign up for their own reasons- no one was drafted. I just pray we can get out soon and let the Iraq people govern themselves.

I hope they all come home soon, too. You're right, none of them was drafted; they all volunteered. Strange how that works, isn't it. There is only one child of a member of Congress serving in Iraq. That's because most people who enlist just happen to come from socioeconomically deprived groups.

Without casting any aspersions on the great majority of service men and women who are serving honorably and well, are you aware of the fact that we have now in excess of 5,000 desertions in the Army since March 2003? What about the fact that the National Guard's enlistment goals cannot be met? What about the fact that 55% of the troops in Iraq and now National Guard and Reserves? What about the fact that we just raised the reenlistment bonus for National Guard troops from the previous $50 to $15,000 because the reenlistment rate has dropped so much.

The decision to invade Iraq was one of the worst decisions by any American president in history. If you don't understand why, then we do not share enough common ground to even debate it.

We have destroyed our reputation in the world. All of the world, not just the Arab world. We are now destroying our currency with record budget deficits and record balance of trade deficits. Once we have finally driven the dollar down to $1.75 to the euro (recently it has hit $1.36 compared to about $0.85 when Bush took over in January 2001), our economy will collapse because our dollar will be pulled as the world's reserve currency in favor of the euro. It's happening already but for obvious reasons the countries that are switching to euros can't talk about it too loudly or it will only make matters worse.

The expense of the war in Iraq is an unbearable expense when added to the multi-trillion dollar tax reductions pushed through by BushCo. Interest rates are rising and will continue to rise. The real estate bubble will burst just like the stock market bubble burst, it's just a matter of waiting for interest rates to get high enough. Real estate equity is fueling consumer spending. Once that collapses, the economy goes into a deep depression. And to think that the last three years under that no good, womanizing, budget balancing Democrat we had record budget surpluses.

[Poseidon]

Please PLease Please let my house sell before the "bubble bursts"!!!!

I agree that Iraq was not as big of a threat as we were sold, and I agree that the exit plan is NON-Existant. So while we are there can't we get a little OIL??? Good god my Consumers power bill is twice as high as last year, with 75% of the USAGE!!! And Gas at $2.00 + per gallon? Those 2 priorities are a disproportionate (sp?) cost to those of us living on the edge... They take a MUCH larger percentage of my income then someone who makes more then me, just like SALES tax! I know my family deserves heat in the winter just as much as anyone else...

[Ninong]

Maybe Bush can just give them all a Medal of Freedom or something, declare Mission Accomplished (AGAIN!) and get the hell out?

On the same day that the Congress released a devastating report blaming the CIA with mismanagement and a total breakdown in "intelligence," Bush was awarding George Tenet the Medal of Freedom!

What about John Ashcroft? What's he going to get? How about replica statues of the Spirit of Justice and Majesty of Law? You know, the statues that Ashcroft ordered covered with that $8,000 dark blue drape because the Sprit of Justice has one exposed breast. He was embarrassed to have that statue in the background at his press conferences. The redundancy of one boob being photographed in front of another was too much I guess.

[acer]

Originally Posted by Ninong

Maybe Bush can just give them all a Medal of Freedom or something, declare Mission Accomplished (AGAIN!) and get the hell out?

On the same day that the Congress released a devastating report blaming the CIA with mismanagement and a total breakdown in "intelligence," Bush was awarding George Tenet the Medal of Freedom!

What about John Ashcroft? What's he going to get? How about replica statues of the Spirit of Justice and Majesty of Law? You know, the statues that Ashcroft ordered covered with that $8,000 dark blue drape because the Sprit of Justice has one exposed breast. He was embarrassed to have that statue in the background at his press conferences. The redundancy of one boob being photographed in front of another was too much I guess.

Well you do know how to copy talking points, How about a thought of your own. Please tell us you source of this intel. I guess the USA reputation in Europe and elsewhere didn't take a hit when Clinton was getting "special attention" from an intern. Then bombed an aspirin factory to take the story off the front page. Of coarse ,it is not like these great leaders you seem to be so worried about don't have their own problems. The French couln't vote with the USA ,they were promised alot of $$ and oil by Saddam, so was Germany. The Grman economy is really screwed up. Have a freind over there and it is bad. He is married to a nice Germngirl- but he lives with her parents because they can't make enough to but a home- he is a physician and she is a international adversing person. But housing and land is soo expensive he lives with his in laws. Ya- sounds like a great ecomony to copy. Obviously our government ( yes- yours and mine) is definetly messed up - just as corrupt as the last one. Each administation has its problems. But, once again. You are very quick to point a finger, but fail to say what action should be done. Maybe the CIA wouldn't have messed up if Billy boy would not have cut the funding and made all these special rules that made intelligence gathering much more difficult. Hard to say if it would have made any difference. Were you one of those people who had to take anti-depressants becuase Bush won again- or are you still trying to say that "it was illegitimate" again. Why don't we get back to discussing our hobbies, instead of dirty laudry. God knows - it hard enough to get some stress relief and I like my fish.

[Ninong]

The intel is out there, all you have to do is look. In fact, I've lost track of how many tell-all books have been written in the past six months alone. Can't wait for Tenet's. He's getting an enormous advance. A lot of my "intel" came out of the reports of the various Congressional committees trying to figure out what when wrong. Republican controlled committees.

"In the lead up to the Iraq war and its later conduct, I saw at a minimum, true dereliction, negligence and irresponsibility, at worse, lying, incompetence and corruption."

No, that's not my opinion (not quite), it's the opinion of Marine Corps General Anthony Zinni, former commander-in-chief of the United States Central Command, in charge of all American troops in the Middle East:


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in618896.shtml

[acer]

Originally Posted by Ninong

The intel is out there, all you have to do is look. In fact, I've lost track of how many tell-all books have been written in the past six months alone. Can't wait for Tenet's. He's getting an enormous advance.

"In the lead up to the Iraq war and its later conduct, I saw at a minimum, true dereliction, negligence and irresponsibility, at worse, lying, incompetence and corruption."

No, that's not my opinion (not quite), it's the opinion of Marine Corps General Anthony Zinni:


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in618896.shtml

Oh- that very objective website of CBS-please. That's like me referring you to a Christian coalition web site regarding the sponge-bob thing. Do you think this retired guy might have an AX to grind with his successors. MY Goodness- how many screw ups were there in the Normandy invasion. Of coarse there are idiots everywhere. Just like at your work and at mine.

After all your leader, Kerry, saw this and that during his war too, and stated he was in a country (Loas- spell?)during Christmas time -yet records show we had no troops in that country. WHy can I admit there are problems with BUsh- stated ealier that our presetn government is corrupt. Tha tincludes both Rep and Dems. Yet you can't admit that the liberals had power for decades- and ran this country into the ground with their social programs, and at present the DEMS only ***** and obstruct- without any actual plan of their own. YOu and the rest of the liberals, like Dan Rather and the other socialists, should move out of this country if you hate it so much.I am an American Capitalist and beleive what our constitution says. The PURSUIT of happyness - not live of someone elses work. I believe in live and let live-but don't tell me to pay for your mistakes. All men are created equal- not a free handout or reform bill because of the color of your skin or your gender or anything else.

Enough- I am done, I will let you have the last statement- I know you will-but I have to get some sleep and you still have failed to actually come up with a statement of your own on what you think should be done about anything. Amazing !!

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by acer

Oh- that very objective website of CBS-please.

What does CBS have to do with it? They're just reporting what was said in the book.

Do you think this retired guy...

This "retired guy?" Are we still talking about Gen. Zinni?

After all your leader, Kerry,...

He was the nominee of the Democratic Party. I said in advance, on this board and in this forum, that he was a poor choice and would probably not be elected. I believe I said that months before he was even nominated. I did, however, vote for him. I have never voted for a Republican in my life and I'm not about to start now.

WHy can I admit there are problems with BUsh-

Why should you have to admit to any problems with Bush when he himself said that he can think of nothing he has done wrong?

YOu and the rest of the liberals, like Dan Rather and the other socialists, should move out of this country if you hate it so much.

We don't hate it at all. Whatever gave you the idea that liberals hate their country? How arrogant and ignorant! We're trying to save it from the people who are ruining it.

Enough- I am done, I will let you have the last statement- I know you will-but I have to get some sleep and you still have failed to actually come up with a statement of your own on what you think should be done about anything. Amazing !!

All of my statements are statements of my own, foreign as that idea may be to you.

[schrocat]

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[Ninong]

Originally Posted by Ninong

Without casting any aspersions on the great majority of service men and women who are serving honorably and well, are you aware of the fact that we have now in excess of 5,000 desertions in the Army since March 2003? What about the fact that the National Guard's enlistment goals cannot be met? What about the fact that 55% of the troops in Iraq and now National Guard and Reserves? What about the fact that we just raised the reenlistment bonus for National Guard troops from the previous $50 to $15,000 because the reenlistment rate has dropped so much.

I wrote that a full three weeks ago on February 1st. Since then the Army and the Marine Corps have acknowledged that they are failing to meet their enlistment goals. Reinstitution of the draft is just around the corner, especially if we attack Iran and Syria.

Originally Posted by Ninong

We have destroyed our reputation in the world. All of the world, not just the Arab world. We are now destroying our currency with record budget deficits and record balance of trade deficits. Once we have finally driven the dollar down to $1.75 to the euro (recently it has hit $1.36 compared to about $0.85 when Bush took over in January 2001), our economy will collapse because our dollar will be pulled as the world's reserve currency in favor of the euro. It's happening already but for obvious reasons the countries that are switching to euros can't talk about it too loudly or it will only make matters worse.

Some of the smaller countries are even talking openly about switching from dollars to "other curencies" (hint: euros). In the past few months China and Russia have been engaged in the process of switching hundreds of billions of dollars to euros and now even little South Korea is getting in on the act:

From MSNBC 2/22/05: "The dollar fell more than 1.4% against both the euro and the yen after South Korea's central bank announced plans to seek higher returns for its $200 bln in currency reserves with other currencies, deepening concerns that demand for U.S. treasuries will diminish throughout the rest of the world."

Originally Posted by Ninong

The expense of the war in Iraq is an unbearable expense when added to the multi-trillion dollar tax reductions pushed through by BushCo. Interest rates are rising and will continue to rise. The real estate bubble will burst just like the stock market bubble burst, it's just a matter of waiting for interest rates to get high enough. Real estate equity is fueling consumer spending. Once that collapses, the economy goes into a deep depression. And to think that the last three years under that no good, womanizing, budget balancing Democrat we had record budget surpluses.

And speaking of scandals in the White House, what do you think the Republicans would have said if Bill Clinton's press secretary had given carte blanche access to the White House press room for two years to his gay hooker pal who was never cleared by the FBI or the CIA? Scott McClellan admits that he knew "Jeff Gannon" was just an alias used by Jim Guckert to hide his real identity. This is the guy who was turned down when he applied for a Capitol Hill press pass because his employer, GOPUSA.com, was a political organization owned by a Republican Party activist in Texas and not a true news organization. Yet McClellan, as Ari Fleisher's deputy at the time (February 2003), arranged for "Jeff" to get day passes. Repeatedly! Day after day after day for two years.

'Jeff' is on tape February 28, 2003 posing his first "question" at a White House press conference. That's a full four weeks before his employer, Bobby Eberle, even created the phony "news" site Talon News. Talon News simply copies White House releases and plagiarizes other sources, such as Fox News, Reuters and even the N.Y. Times.

And who invited this 'Jeff Gannon' to the White House Christmas Party in 2003 and again in 2004? How can somebody using an alias get that close to the President of the United States even though we have a new 9/11-inspired law on the books that makes it a federal crime to use an alias in such a manner? Yet the White House Press Secretary now admits that he knew about the alias.

It's a miracle the guy lasted that long without being found out. It wasn't until President Bush called on him a few weeks ago and he went into his typical Demo-bashing, nonsense question that's not really a question but just an opportunity to knock the Democrats. His final question as a "news" reporter was to ask the President how he could possibly work with people like Harry Reid and Hillary Rodham Clinton who are so obviously out of touch with reality. That's when someone recognized him and matched his face with the rest of his body as pictured in various indiscreet poses on several gay "escort" websites that he (Gannon/Guckert) owned. Two of those domain names just went up for sale today (2/22/05). The asking price is $7500.00 each. When live gives you lemons, make lemonade.

(P.S. posted 2/28/05 -- As an update on Gannon's final question to President Bush: "Senate Democratic leaders have painted a very bleak picture of the U.S. economy. Harry Reid was talking about soup lines. . . . How are you going to work with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?" It turned out that Senate Minority Leader Reid had never invoked soup lines. Gannon had borrowed the reference from Rush Limbaugh, who had fabricated it. Limbaugh later admitted on the air that "Harry Reid never said soup lines," but said he was "honored and proud" that Gannon had used it. I'm sure Ollie North and G. Gordon Liddy were also honored and proud. BTW, Gannon continues to refer to the Senate Minority Leader on his website as Harry 'Soup Lines' Reid. Maybe he's going for a Pulitzer in fiction?)

Sanitized version of the story (meaning without nudie pics) here: http://rawstory.com/news/2005/index.php?p=73

Jeff Gannon (aka James Dale Guckert) has now resigned from both GOPUSA and Talon News. His articles and many other articles by other "reporters" that were obviously plagiarized have been erased from both websites, although copies are still available online. (P.S. posted 2/27/05 -- After erasing every trace of Gannon from their website and removing many of the obviously plagiarized articles by their volunteer "reporters," Eberle finally pulled the plug on Talon. It is now offline while they "reevaluate operations." I believe Gannon was their only paid employee -- all of the others were "volunteers.")

Interesting article in the New Yorker (2/21/05) that discusses Gannongate and the whole White House propaganda machine: http://newyorker.com/talk/content/in...talk_hertzberg

Suffice it to say that the European press is having a field day with these stories of White House manipulation of the "free" press in the U.S.A., comparing us to Hitler's Germany. Why does the government feel a need to pay independent correspondents to write reports favorable to its policies? Why does the government feel a need to produce videos using actors playing the roles of news reporters? Why does the government feel a need to plant shills in the White House press room?

The whole Jeff Gannon story is about to blow sky high because he's involved in the leak of the secret CIA document naming Valerie Plame as a covert CIA agent while she was still undercover. He admits that he read the document the same day that he interviewed Ambassador Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame's husband who refused to write a report "proving" that Saddam Hussein was trying to buy yellow cake uranium in Niger. In fact, he wrote a report saying that the British information was incorrect and based on forged documents. It was obvious from the interview than Jeff Gannon had been granted access to top secret information concerning Valerie Plame. He now says that it was published in the Wall Street Journal. Well, yes, it was. It was published the day after the interview of Joe Wilson by Jeff Gannon.

Robert Novak broke the story and said that he was told by a senior White House official that Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent and then we have Jeff Gannon (who's not really Jeff Gannon and not really a news reporter) saying that he read a top secret CIA memo but he refuses to say who showed it to him. Meanwhile, the President of the United States has vowed to find out who leaked that information. (It could be a felony!) And just for clarification, the President vowed to find out who leaked the information to Robert Novak several months ago. He hasn't yet, as far as I know, said anything about Jeff Gannon/Jim Guckert.

This should be interesting.


P.S. -- The mainstream press has been slow to pick up on this story but they're finally coming around:

Minneapolis Star-Tribune: http://www.startribune.com/stories/1519/5247250.html

Even the press in the President's home state of Texas is taking a dim view of the White House's manipulation of the "free" press:

Houston Chronicle editorial: http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory...torial/3038061

The Daily Texan (Univ. of Texas): http://www.dailytexanonline.com/news...h-869179.shtml

[goldfishees]

I think only the trirestests should die and not survilans.

[almostdiva]

I'll come stir up trouble on this thread next.

Where oh where to start??

Robert Novack -- WHY hasn't he been indicted, held in contempt or whatever?? There was an interesting profile of him in this month's Vanity Fair (no comments from the Peanut Gallery -- it's my one concession to pop culture) that discussed the Plame case. Did he dime to the Grand Jury and everyone is keeping silent??

Army Recruiting -- the army is off 27% across the board on their recruiting goals for Army, Reserves and the Guard. They will be off in April, too, they have already announced. Their strategies for correcting this include appealing to parents' patriotism, bigger bonuses and raising the max age of guard/reserve enlistees from 34 to 39. They are also getting aggressive with the Individual Ready Reserve. According to US News, "The Army has revised upward the number of IRR soldiers it plans to put on active duty, from the 4,402 announced last summer to 4,653. Of those given mobilization orders so far, 370 have failed to report for duty, according to Lt. Col. Pamela Hart, an Army spokeswoman. An additional 2,229 have asked for delays in their reporting dates or for exemptions. "

Coalition Members Both Italy and Ukraine have announced they will withdraw their troops from Iraq. Italy and the US both say their withdrawal has nothing to do with the fact that we shot and killed their intelligence agent while he was escorting freed hostage journalist Giuliana Sgrena to the airport immediately afer her release.

Haliburton/KBR I can add nothing that hasn't already been outlined in detail about their fleecing of you and me, the taxpaying public in their overcharging of the various government branches they have supplied since the invasion. At least some of them are now losing their jobs and facing charges.

Weapons of Mass Destruction Obviously NEVER there and a totally false premise for ushering us into the conflct. Nearly 2000 americans have paid the ultimate price for this, which is tragic. And yes, it's dandy that the Iraqis have voted in their own government for the firts time ever. But it's not a justification for loss of life. And let's not forget that Bush has cut funding for veteran's health care. Yes, go and serve, but don't expect the government to provide for your care if you come back in a different configuration from the one you had when you left for Iraq. Or that the Pentagon doesn't count soldiers who have encountered IADs while driving down the road as wounded in action, unless that road was in a "hot spot", so those personnel don't get Purple Hearts etc. I think that in particular takes extreme nerve -- the entire country is essentially a combat zone.

[Ninong]

Rebecca,

Robert Novak hasn't been indicted for anything because he hasn't broken any laws. He doesn't have to reveal the name of the "senior White House" official who leaked the Plame info to him. Journalists are protected by shield laws against having to reveal their confidential sources.

I'm not sure it you could make a case that he himself violated the law by publishing her name while she was still a covert C.I.A. agent???

James Guckert (aka Jeff Gannon ) claims to have been shown a top secret C.I.A. memo that mentions Plame as an agent. He says that it was shown to him by a "White House source" that he refuses to identify -- probably either Scott McClellan or Karl Rove. He was close pals with both. There is little doubt that he actually did see the memo in question because he raised that in an on-air radio interview with Plame's husband, Ambassador Wilson. And that was the day before the Wall Street Journal broke the story.

The President has promised to get to the bottom of this and find out who leaked the memo. And O.J. has promised to find the "real killers."

Two names that have been mentioned as likely culprits are Karl Rove, Senior Assistant to the President, and Scooter Libby, Chief of Staff to the Vice-President. Incidentally both of those guys owned a considerable amount of Enron stock. I don't know if either has been asked to take a lie detector test and, if not, why not. The F.B.I., the C.I.A. and the Secret Service routinely administer lie detector tests to their own employees.

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by Ninong

And the winner is: Option No. 3

Price chart for Exxon-Mobil stock from October 1, 2002 - December 31, 2004:
http://data.moneycentral.msn.com/scr...D3=0&D5=0&E1=0

Price chart for Chevron Texaco stock from October 1, 2002 - December 31, 2004:
http://data.moneycentral.msn.com/scr...D3=0&D5=0&E1=0

Price chart for British Petroleum stock from October 1, 2002 - December 31, 2004:
http://data.moneycentral.msn.com/scr...D3=0&D5=0&E1=0

People who followed Dr. Scott's advice on Oct. 20, 2002 and purchased oil company stocks did very well indeed.

ChevronTexaco suffering badly, only manage 20% growth:

What an embarassment to the industry. With Shell raking in 42%, BP 29% and Exxon Mobil leading the pack with 44% Q1 profit growth the ChevronTexaco people should really ask the government to step in and offer relief in the form of massive tax breaks and state owned property such as former military bases. Clearly with the massive economic growth that the economy is experiencing a mere 20% growth just isn't going to cut it. Please, reach out and call your congressmembers in Washington and help these suffering people before it's too late.