computers .....?

FishKid · 10-27-2002, 09:14 AM

hey, im finally building that "super computer" i wanted last year, but im not sure what to do, go intel P4 northwood chipset, or AMD... I've never used AMD so i dont know how they compare. also, i never built a pc before what would i need to get a barebones system running (motherboard, etc...)

I got a whole wad of cash so $$'s not a problem

mark

hcp28 · 10-28-2002, 11:20 AM

Well you'll need a good motherboard, sound car, video card, I'm assuming you already have housing for everything. Hard drive, RAM, CD-Rom, or you could just get a burner to double as a CD-rom drive. You'll also need to see what kind of fan you need for your P4 chip. If you run that thing for more than 5 minutes without a fan it will fry like white fish on a skillet. I'd look into quiet fans, I just overhauled my computer this summer and I tell you there is nothing worse than hearing that damn fan run 24/7. You have a power source and everything right? I'm trying to think of all the essentials. I think that's it.

Henry

Reinhold · 10-28-2002, 11:29 AM

I'm more interested in where you got the wad of cash????

Nothing illegal I hope.

PerryinCA · 10-28-2002, 02:06 PM

I am a huge fan of AMD. I have had less problems with my most recent system (my first AMD) than will all of my previous Intels. I run it over-clocked with a decent (not great) fan and have yet to have any problem at all. Its cheap, fast, and reliable.

I'd second going for a "quiet" fan. The fan I initially threw on there was pretty loud, and drove me crazy. I swear it gave me tinitus to be in the same room with that system for more than a hour.

I say AMD all the way.

If I was building a system right now I'd go with the ASUS A7V8X mobo, Athlon XP 2600+, 1.024 GB of 333mhz DDR, Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum, GeForce4 Ti4600, Deskstar 120gb HD, and a DVD-RW.

that'd probably suffice for me for the next few weeks.

-Perry

FishKid · 10-28-2002, 04:11 PM

Reinhold... I've been peddling pot for the last 2 months (lol) no, over the summer i worked at a summer camp as a counselor (scary huh?) thats $900...

I got $200 for building my porch (leveling my whole backyard)

and i work at Wendy's

not fun ill be quitting momentarily

i was hoping on getting a barebones system running for about $700 (big PC fair comming up this weekend)

Henry, thanks that gave me a push in the right direction

mark

ps off to work

Reinhold · 10-28-2002, 04:19 PM

fishkid:

You working as a camp counselor is way scarier than you peddling drugs on your summer vacation!

reefer504 · 10-28-2002, 06:26 PM

I agree with Perry all the way except that would not be a cheap computer by no means more like my dream computer

asmith · 10-28-2002, 06:58 PM

Perry has described a great computer for you. The only change I would make would be to swap the TI4600 video card for a new ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. Of course this may put you way over your budget.

Andrew

Reinhold · 10-28-2002, 07:25 PM

Perry or Andrew:

How much would a set-up like that cost?

asmith · 10-28-2002, 08:28 PM

Here are some rough figures of Perry's configuration with my video card.

Motherboard $125
Proccessor $250
Video Card $350
Ram $300
Sound Card $190
Hard Drive $200
DVD RW $225
--------------------------
$1640

Some of these can be purchased for more or less, but these are close numbers. You also need to figure in some money for a case, cooling fans, Heatsink, power supply (probably a 500 watt for this rig). keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, printer, network card (or modem if you haven't joined the world of broadband) and anything else you might need.

That is really not a bad price for a computer that is top of the line (at least for a couple of weeks

)

With a computer that nice, I would feel guilty using anything less than a 19 inch flat panel monitor, and the best speakers you can afford. You would also want to save a couple hundred for games. UT 2K3 would be awsome on this computer.

Andrew

FishKid · 10-29-2002, 02:34 PM

yea, Reinhold i agree 100%

not too mention Battle Field 1942 is awesome, and i cant wait for Doom 3

man, doesnt money suck?

the problem is i cant divert all of my funds to this 'great cause' as i just ordered an Airsoft Gun (hehe) so im down $300. but i payday is soon so..

mark

**schrocat** · 10-30-2002, 08:56 PM

FK

Dude, you're dead on regarding Doom III.

The screenshots released so far are SUPERB!

Can't wait!

Firefish · 10-31-2002, 05:52 PM

FWIW, I've had nothing but great service at www.Tigerdirect.com.
No hassles when returning merchandise and the parts arrive relatively fast. Prices are pretty decent also. Check out the liquid cooled cases...

10-27-2002, 09:14 AM	#1
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	computers .....? hey, im finally building that "super computer" i wanted last year, but im not sure what to do, go intel P4 northwood chipset, or AMD... I've never used AMD so i dont know how they compare. also, i never built a pc before what would i need to get a barebones system running (motherboard, etc...) I got a whole wad of cash so $$'s not a problem mark

10-28-2002, 11:20 AM	#2
hcp28 Evil Czar Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,001	Well you'll need a good motherboard, sound car, video card, I'm assuming you already have housing for everything. Hard drive, RAM, CD-Rom, or you could just get a burner to double as a CD-rom drive. You'll also need to see what kind of fan you need for your P4 chip. If you run that thing for more than 5 minutes without a fan it will fry like white fish on a skillet. I'd look into quiet fans, I just overhauled my computer this summer and I tell you there is nothing worse than hearing that damn fan run 24/7. You have a power source and everything right? I'm trying to think of all the essentials. I think that's it. Henry __________________ Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall down an open manhole and die. -Mel Brooks

10-28-2002, 06:58 PM	#8
asmith Mayor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lenexa, KS, USA Posts: 978	Perry has described a great computer for you. The only change I would make would be to swap the TI4600 video card for a new ATI Radeon 9700 Pro. Of course this may put you way over your budget. Andrew __________________ Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic.

10-28-2002, 08:28 PM	#10
asmith Mayor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Lenexa, KS, USA Posts: 978	Here are some rough figures of Perry's configuration with my video card. Motherboard $125 Proccessor $250 Video Card $350 Ram $300 Sound Card $190 Hard Drive $200 DVD RW $225 -------------------------- $1640 Some of these can be purchased for more or less, but these are close numbers. You also need to figure in some money for a case, cooling fans, Heatsink, power supply (probably a 500 watt for this rig). keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, printer, network card (or modem if you haven't joined the world of broadband) and anything else you might need. That is really not a bad price for a computer that is top of the line (at least for a couple of weeks ) With a computer that nice, I would feel guilty using anything less than a 19 inch flat panel monitor, and the best speakers you can afford. You would also want to save a couple hundred for games. UT 2K3 would be awsome on this computer. Andrew __________________ Never be afraid to try something new. Remember that amateurs built the Ark. Professionals built the Titanic. Last edited by asmith; 10-28-2002 at 08:39 PM.

10-30-2002, 08:56 PM	#12
schrocat Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Hilliard , Fl. Posts: 3,365	FK Dude, you're dead on regarding Doom III. The screenshots released so far are SUPERB! Can't wait! __________________ "One man's vulgarity is another man's lyric" -Justice John Marshall Harlan "Send Lawyers, Guns and Money." -WZ

10-28-2002, 11:29 AM	#3
Reinhold Mayor Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 941	I'm more interested in where you got the wad of cash???? Nothing illegal I hope.

10-28-2002, 02:06 PM	#4
PerryinCA Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 2,103	I am a huge fan of AMD. I have had less problems with my most recent system (my first AMD) than will all of my previous Intels. I run it over-clocked with a decent (not great) fan and have yet to have any problem at all. Its cheap, fast, and reliable. I'd second going for a "quiet" fan. The fan I initially threw on there was pretty loud, and drove me crazy. I swear it gave me tinitus to be in the same room with that system for more than a hour. I say AMD all the way. If I was building a system right now I'd go with the ASUS A7V8X mobo, Athlon XP 2600+, 1.024 GB of 333mhz DDR, Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum, GeForce4 Ti4600, Deskstar 120gb HD, and a DVD-RW. that'd probably suffice for me for the next few weeks. -Perry

10-28-2002, 04:11 PM	#5
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	Reinhold... I've been peddling pot for the last 2 months (lol) no, over the summer i worked at a summer camp as a counselor (scary huh?) thats $900... I got $200 for building my porch (leveling my whole backyard) and i work at Wendy's not fun ill be quitting momentarily i was hoping on getting a barebones system running for about $700 (big PC fair comming up this weekend) Henry, thanks that gave me a push in the right direction mark ps off to work

10-28-2002, 04:19 PM	#6
Reinhold Mayor Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 941	fishkid: You working as a camp counselor is way scarier than you peddling drugs on your summer vacation!

10-28-2002, 06:26 PM	#7
reefer504 Just Moved In Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Orleans Posts: 40	I agree with Perry all the way except that would not be a cheap computer by no means more like my dream computer

10-28-2002, 07:25 PM	#9
Reinhold Mayor Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 941	Perry or Andrew: How much would a set-up like that cost?

10-29-2002, 02:34 PM	#11
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	yea, Reinhold i agree 100% not too mention Battle Field 1942 is awesome, and i cant wait for Doom 3 man, doesnt money suck? the problem is i cant divert all of my funds to this 'great cause' as i just ordered an Airsoft Gun (hehe) so im down $300. but i payday is soon so.. mark

10-31-2002, 05:52 PM	#13
Firefish Mayor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Douglas, Ma Posts: 775	FWIW, I've had nothing but great service at www.Tigerdirect.com. No hassles when returning merchandise and the parts arrive relatively fast. Prices are pretty decent also. Check out the liquid cooled cases... __________________ In matters of principle, stand like a rock; in matters of taste, swim with the current. -- Thomas Jefferson

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