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Old 10-21-2001, 09:16 PM   #21
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you should only barely push ,if at all

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Old 10-21-2001, 09:49 PM   #22
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Hi sorry to gatecrash!

Does anyone know what is the best tool to enlarge a 1" and 3/4" hole in tempered glass?

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Old 10-23-2001, 01:19 AM   #23
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DIAMOND not carbide grit...

For anyone interested diamond edge hole saws are available from a company called Starret and you can get them through Grainger. You will probably have to special order. They cost a LOT more but should last much longer and you can get the exact size you want. I bought a 1-3/4" (for 1" bulkheads) for $69.00. I have used many carbide grit holesaws and am hoping that the diamond will be faster and last longer. Will update as events warrant.
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Old 10-25-2001, 06:49 PM   #24
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Tempered Glass

Jerry, once glass has been tempered it can never be altered in any way, it will shatter into little beads. Before tempering all mods to the glass have to be done, ie, cut to size, holes, beveling, etc. Bill.
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Old 10-26-2001, 01:29 AM   #25
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Thanks billzie, I've decided to keep the flow rate at 600 GPH and add a closed loop system, instead.

Running the filtration turnover any faster would require too much trouble to keep the water parameters constant and flowing properly.

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Old 10-27-2001, 02:27 AM   #26
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please pardon my ignorance...

...but I guess I don't understand this "closed loop" thing, doesn't it involve holes in tank? Could someone please explain what you guys mean by "closed loop"?
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Old 10-27-2001, 03:42 AM   #27
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A closed loop means usually you have bulkheads from tank that feeds water to the pump itself, then the pump pushes water back to the tank. You don't need a sump.
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Old 10-27-2001, 12:38 PM   #28
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Here's a pic I borrowed from scubadude. He'll probably use his harpoon on me ........ quick...... take a pic before I erase it

Jerry

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Old 10-28-2001, 01:16 AM   #29
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So I'm not so dumb...

that's what I thought you guys were calling a "closed loop", I'm just used to doing it out the back of the tank and got thrown for a "loop" when JR implied this would eliminate need to drill tank.
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Old 10-28-2001, 01:18 AM   #30
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Diamond edge hole saw

see new thread "drilling glass update"
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Old 10-28-2001, 02:19 AM   #31
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My original question was, enlarging the exisiting 4-holes.

Initially I was planning to use the 1" drains in a closed loop config. and the 3/4" returns as the filteration/sump/skimmer system with the returns over the top of the tank.

You see, I have two drain holes and two returns.

But hey if it sounds so easy with the diamond tips, I may just do it. Maybe when my warranty is over. Got to give it some thought.

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Old 10-30-2001, 01:32 AM   #32
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"Jerry, once glass has been tempered it can never be altered in any way, it will shatter into little beads. Before tempering all mods to the glass have to be done..."

The diamond bit isn't going to change that.
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Old 10-30-2001, 05:22 AM   #33
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That's interesting, as the manufacturer, AGA, informed me that it could be done with a diamond tip drill bit. However, I would void the warranty. Maybe I should check with them again.

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Old 10-30-2001, 10:15 PM   #34
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I have often wondered if the "you can't alter tempered glass" rule is nothing more than folklore. Every glass shop I have ever asked says it's true. Every aquarist I have ever asked says it's true. Every lfs I have ever asked says it's true. Still, I do not know of one single person who has ever tried it. I wonder if it's true? Since I have the bit anyway, I think I will try it on something I don't really care about. Stay tuned for results.
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Old 10-30-2001, 11:40 PM   #35
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Below is the note I referred to. But to be safe, do let me know the outcome of your tempered experience. I would hate to screw up my tank, as it cost me a bomb!

Quote:
Jerry,
These holes are drilled into the tank with a diamond tip drill bit, if
you have one of those, you could drill the hole bigger, but just so you
are aware of this, if you do that it will void the warranty on the tank.

Sincerely,
Charlene
Customer Service
All-Glass Aquarium Co., Inc
info@allglass.com
The question is, before or after the glass was tempered

Thanks for the time and effort, David.

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Old 08-06-2005, 01:44 AM   #36
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drilling tempered glass

"Tempering" glass is a process of extremely rapid cooling of formed glass. this process cools the outside faster than the inside creating extreme tension on the two outer panes and a substantial lower tension on the inner one. this process greatly increases the strength of the glass (and the brittleness). when you attempt to drill the glass it releases this tension suddenly, 8 out of 10 times will result in a broken aquarium, however even if it doesnt (slim chance) it weakens the glass to a point that it can no longer withstand even reasonable weight (thus voiding the warrenty). (i believe tempered glass is 15,000 psi were standard is 400 psi!). Hope this helps.
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Below is the note I referred to. But to be safe, do let me know the outcome of your tempered experience. I would hate to screw up my tank, as it cost me a bomb!



The question is, before or after the glass was tempered

Thanks for the time and effort, David.

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