Are UL Listed Rios safe?

[myreef]

I have a UL listed Rio running my reactor and it scares me to death. As soon as I can replace it with a maxijet, I am going to. I don't want a $20-$25 ph ruin my entire tank. I have heard too many horror stories. I have always had good luck with the MAG pumps....I have 5 on my 150. Never any trouble out of them (knock on wood).

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[Triggers]

good educational rio discussion going on at AL before the thread got closed. not sure why, could be lack of something better to do....
but anyway need a replacement for my 2100 for surface agitation before something happens.
tought to hang a mag 950 up there.

are the UL listed models safe in regards to tank destruction.

[This message has been edited by Triggers (edited 05-02-2001).]

[Triggers]

so the ul listed rios are causing the same problems?

[naser]

a mag will be alot stonger than your rio.. im thinking about switvhing to a mag 9.5 just to up the flow. a 2100 at 4 feet is like 300gph. a mag 9.5 at 4 feet is like 700 to 800gph.

[Triggers]

i need something to put in the tank/.
the rio 2100 is in the tank at the top blowing across the tank and is not located 4' below. i am thinking of getting to aquaclear 802 and putting them at each end.

[jmick01]

The rio ul is no different in construction than the non ul the only difference is they use a larger guage of wire for the ul rated pumps.

JMM

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[tubs]

JMM,

The cords is also grounded. Pump is the same, cord is different.

In any case, wouldn't safety precautions such as a GFCI and grounding probe possibly prevent a total meltdown. It won't prevent any pump failures but couldn't these safety measures prevent any pump failure from further melting down and thus leaching the nasty stuff into the water?

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[jmick01]

Tubs,
Im sorry i forgot the ground. But yes in my opinion the gfci and ground plug in the tank would catch the terrrible meltdown. And about the ul a lot of aquarium pumps are not ul. Im not saying that rio is #1 i just think everybody gets on a bandwagon too quick. And yes i do believe there is some fault by rio in the consruction of the 2500 since the wall was only manufactured somwhere around 1/8" thick on the back plate and any of them that are 2 years older dont have a thermal cutoff(this is the statement made by rio) but that the new ones do.Also in peplacement of the 2500 they are making a new version of the 2500 with a thicker back plate its the 2800 and supposedly pumps as much as a 3100 using less amps.We'll see

JMM

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[tubs]

JMM,

I want some comfort on this as I own some UL Listed RIO2100s. Is it safe to say that if you have the UL listed versions and are utilizing GFCI and ground probe there's no chance in h@*! that a catastrophic meltdown will occur? Also if you have a newer RIO less than 2 years old (should have thermal overload protection) that you also should not see this occurrence?



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[jmick01]

Tubs, Sorry for the late reply have had finals and have been quite busy. I cant say for sure wether the rio pumps 2 years or newer have a thermal overload or not. That is just what the factory said to me. Kinda makes me wonder though when you say your product has a thermal protector , but doesnt say it on the box. Also i dont know much of how the gfci works so ill leave it to an electrical person.

JMM

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