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Rp Marine · 03-20-2004, 11:21 AM

i think i decided to go with the MH retro kit. do your know were i can buy some and how long the bulb last before changes? i'm looking at the retro kit at hellolights.com there are two different set up
Electronic Ballast Systems

Magnetic Ballast Systems
what the different and what would your recommand for my 20 gallon tall 70 150 250 400 i have never used MH before so i really need your input on this.
thank you

***Reefland*** · 03-20-2004, 02:01 PM

Hey Rp!

The electronic ballast is lighter, runs cooler and more effecient; albeit more expensive usually. I would pick up a 150w DE MH for your 20 gallon tank. The bulbs easily last 12 months, some people will run them 18.

Regards,
Scott Z.

**Poseidon** · 03-20-2004, 02:40 PM

Check out www.oceanencounter.com that is where I bought my lights, and they were really cheap!

Rp Marine · 03-20-2004, 04:14 PM

thanks for all the info. always their when i need your
i have no ideal about MH so can your give me some option for what i should buy in oceanencounter.com and hellolights.com? this will be very greatful.

**Poseidon** · 03-20-2004, 09:05 PM

Sure thing:

First

second (many options here)

Third

These are all from Ocean Encounter. You may want to call them depending on what you want for a "bulb holder and reflector" Maybe you will just need a bare reflector, maybe you need the fancy pendant I linked to. It just depends on your plans and BUDGET!! (That part always seems to blow my plans!!)

Rp Marine · 03-20-2004, 11:00 PM

with the second option PFO Mini 150watt HQI Pendent isn't it the same price as 250watt HQI Pendent? what the different and why are the price the same? Would a 250 be ok or should i go with the 150 this will support my claims right and would it support any other lifestock maybe an anemone? so i'm thinking about this, what bulb would your recommand? i also have 4x13 watt retro kit and have 50/50 white and acitic. should i use them too?

do you have any recommandation from hellolights.com?

***Reefland*** · 03-21-2004, 01:35 AM

The pendents linked there will work for 150 and 250w DE bulbs. The difference in cost will come with the ballast and there may not be that big of a difference there. As far as bulbs, there are many, many options available here. I like the look of the AB 10k's and the Ushio 10k's; however if you want more blue, you may look at some of the 20k's.

Scott Z.

Rp Marine · 03-21-2004, 05:23 AM

what your think about http://hellolights.com/17methalbalk.html
this is a 150/175W HL Metal Halide Retrokfit Kit. do your think this is ok for my 20 tall gallon tank? i really want a retrokfit kit or your have a better idea? do you think if i do get this kit the bulb will be good for it?

***Reefland*** · 03-21-2004, 02:07 PM

I think a 150w double-ended system would be better. They are a few less watts but the PAR is significantly more than with a 175w mogule system like the one you linked. Now I am not saying that this system would be a bad choice however the 150w DE would be a better choice.

Scott Z.

Rp Marine · 03-21-2004, 07:16 PM

right now i'm not planning to keep any SPS or any coral. but thinking about a BTA do your think this lighting will be ok? http://hellolights.com/17methalbalk.html
i want a retro kit because it much cheaper for me.
But if i see any sign that the BTA don't want to be in the 220 gallon tall then i will put it in my 138 gallon tank.

and i just saw this what your think?
http://oceanencounter.com/Merchant2/...egory_Code=AMO
should i go with the 150 or 250?
what would your pick?

03-20-2004, 11:21 AM	#1
Rp Marine Council Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: TEXAS Posts: 303	claims i think i decided to go with the MH retro kit. do your know were i can buy some and how long the bulb last before changes? i'm looking at the retro kit at hellolights.com there are two different set up Electronic Ballast Systems Magnetic Ballast Systems what the different and what would your recommand for my 20 gallon tall 70 150 250 400 i have never used MH before so i really need your input on this. thank you Last edited by Rp Marine; 03-20-2004 at 11:26 AM.

03-20-2004, 02:40 PM	#3
Poseidon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Swartz Creek, MI Posts: 6,248	Check out www.oceanencounter.com that is where I bought my lights, and they were really cheap! __________________ Need a Photographer? Just say NO to CRABS Mike

03-20-2004, 04:14 PM	#4
Rp Marine Council Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: TEXAS Posts: 303	thanks for all the info. always their when i need your i have no ideal about MH so can your give me some option for what i should buy in oceanencounter.com and hellolights.com? this will be very greatful. Last edited by Rp Marine; 03-20-2004 at 04:19 PM.

03-20-2004, 09:05 PM	#5
Poseidon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Swartz Creek, MI Posts: 6,248	Sure thing: First second (many options here) Third These are all from Ocean Encounter. You may want to call them depending on what you want for a "bulb holder and reflector" Maybe you will just need a bare reflector, maybe you need the fancy pendant I linked to. It just depends on your plans and BUDGET!! (That part always seems to blow my plans!!) __________________ Need a Photographer? Just say NO to CRABS Mike

03-20-2004, 11:00 PM	#6
Rp Marine Council Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: TEXAS Posts: 303	with the second option PFO Mini 150watt HQI Pendent isn't it the same price as 250watt HQI Pendent? what the different and why are the price the same? Would a 250 be ok or should i go with the 150 this will support my claims right and would it support any other lifestock maybe an anemone? so i'm thinking about this, what bulb would your recommand? i also have 4x13 watt retro kit and have 50/50 white and acitic. should i use them too? do you have any recommandation from hellolights.com? Last edited by Rp Marine; 03-21-2004 at 12:03 AM.

03-20-2004, 02:01 PM	#2
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,030	Hey Rp! The electronic ballast is lighter, runs cooler and more effecient; albeit more expensive usually. I would pick up a 150w DE MH for your 20 gallon tank. The bulbs easily last 12 months, some people will run them 18. Regards, Scott Z.

03-21-2004, 01:35 AM	#7
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,030	The pendents linked there will work for 150 and 250w DE bulbs. The difference in cost will come with the ballast and there may not be that big of a difference there. As far as bulbs, there are many, many options available here. I like the look of the AB 10k's and the Ushio 10k's; however if you want more blue, you may look at some of the 20k's. Scott Z.

03-21-2004, 05:23 AM	#8
Rp Marine Council Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: TEXAS Posts: 303	what your think about http://hellolights.com/17methalbalk.html this is a 150/175W HL Metal Halide Retrokfit Kit. do your think this is ok for my 20 tall gallon tank? i really want a retrokfit kit or your have a better idea? do you think if i do get this kit the bulb will be good for it?

03-21-2004, 02:07 PM	#9
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,030	I think a 150w double-ended system would be better. They are a few less watts but the PAR is significantly more than with a 175w mogule system like the one you linked. Now I am not saying that this system would be a bad choice however the 150w DE would be a better choice. Scott Z.

03-21-2004, 07:16 PM	#10
Rp Marine Council Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: TEXAS Posts: 303	right now i'm not planning to keep any SPS or any coral. but thinking about a BTA do your think this lighting will be ok? http://hellolights.com/17methalbalk.html i want a retro kit because it much cheaper for me. But if i see any sign that the BTA don't want to be in the 220 gallon tall then i will put it in my 138 gallon tank. and i just saw this what your think? http://oceanencounter.com/Merchant2/...egory_Code=AMO should i go with the 150 or 250? what would your pick? Last edited by Rp Marine; 03-21-2004 at 09:57 PM.

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