Reefland's PFO's dual ballast

Mikeman · 07-06-2001, 01:47 PM

If I were to get mh and buy them here, is it better to buy the "eye" dual ballast? If so why? Also can I order sockets without reflectors? Thanks

I'm going back and forth on the mh, I havn't decided what to do?

***Reefland*** · 07-06-2001, 02:06 PM

It depends on how you look at it.

The "EYE" ballast powers the Iwasaki and is a MV ballast.

The standard ballast powers the Iwasaki (10% less per PFO) as well as the other popular bulbs such as 10k, 12k, etc. This is a MH ballast.

Folks that know they will stick with the Iwasaki's go with the EYE. Those that wish to have the extra flexibility choose the standard ballast, accept the 10% loss and have the option to change bulbs if they don't like the Iwasaki's.

Socket's can be order without the reflectors. They are located in the "Build Your Own" section.

Scott

Mikeman · 07-06-2001, 02:12 PM

thanks scott, you cleared that up for me, I think

If you buying mh would you go for the "eye" ballast?

thanks again

***Reefland*** · 07-06-2001, 02:21 PM

I would get the EYE if I didn't mind being stuck with Iwasaki's. If I wanted flexibility, I would go with the standard ballast. Just depends.

Scott

My9t · 07-06-2001, 03:46 PM

Scott I see you have your feet firmly planted on Both sides of the fence.

PerryinCA · 07-06-2001, 05:01 PM

Personally I enjoy the flexibility factor, so I would opt for the standard 250. (non-EYE)

-Perry

**golfish** · 07-06-2001, 07:21 PM

I'm with Perry, I would and did the standard ballast

***Reefland*** · 07-06-2001, 09:34 PM

Sorry, didn't want to appear partial there.

chromis · 07-06-2001, 11:12 PM

I dont see why you would want the 10k? There is a significant difference in the PAR of the 10k and the iwasaki. What is more important? A pure white or your organisms health? If you want flexibilty go with ice cap. They can rewire any ballast to fit the bulb you want. Otherwise I would go with EYE, the iwaskis are cheap, efficient, and pretty much white.

IMO
Andrew

PerryinCA · 07-07-2001, 05:17 PM

I agree Chromis...to an extent. PFO claims that there is a 10% loss in with the use of the magnetic ballast...Sanjay's tests report a increase in output using the MH over the MV for the 250w. Its also possible to have variations of up to 25% with any given setup (in terms of output).

I think its safer to use the MH, because of the flexibility... When using Iwasaki's, the 10% is a pretty negligable loss.... Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan of "lots o' light", but some prefer to have that bluer look (not me) and they'll be stuck with Iwasaki's if they change thier mind.

I agree on the Icecaps though. They are all I will ever use, have always worked flawlessly for me, and are small/light/cool running. I can see how the price may hold some back. According to the RC forum, they are working on, or toward, a 400w version. That will make a lot of reefers happy.

-Perry

chromis · 07-07-2001, 10:25 PM

Thanks for agreeing(sort of), I think most people who are serious about sps and clams like I am are either going with iwasakis or HQI. I was dead set on the MV but am starting to consider the MH ballast. Not because I want to run a 10k but because of Sanjay's tests. However now I am thinking of running 2 x 400s over my 55 so in that case I would only get the MV ballast. My fixture wont be done for a while so I still have plenty of time to decide.

Andrew

07-06-2001, 01:47 PM	#1
Mikeman Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Watertown,SD,USA Posts: 1,502	Reefland's PFO's dual ballast If I were to get mh and buy them here, is it better to buy the "eye" dual ballast? If so why? Also can I order sockets without reflectors? Thanks I'm going back and forth on the mh, I havn't decided what to do?

07-06-2001, 02:06 PM	#2
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,044	Hi Mike! It depends on how you look at it. The "EYE" ballast powers the Iwasaki and is a MV ballast. The standard ballast powers the Iwasaki (10% less per PFO) as well as the other popular bulbs such as 10k, 12k, etc. This is a MH ballast. Folks that know they will stick with the Iwasaki's go with the EYE. Those that wish to have the extra flexibility choose the standard ballast, accept the 10% loss and have the option to change bulbs if they don't like the Iwasaki's. Socket's can be order without the reflectors. They are located in the "Build Your Own" section. Scott

07-06-2001, 03:46 PM	#5
My9t Citizen Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Louisville, KY USA Posts: 240	Scott I see you have your feet firmly planted on Both sides of the fence. __________________ Never put off till tomorrow what you can do the day after tomorrow (or next week)

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07-06-2001, 02:12 PM	#3
Mikeman Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Watertown,SD,USA Posts: 1,502	thanks scott, you cleared that up for me, I think If you buying mh would you go for the "eye" ballast? thanks again

07-06-2001, 02:21 PM	#4
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,044	I would get the EYE if I didn't mind being stuck with Iwasaki's. If I wanted flexibility, I would go with the standard ballast. Just depends. Scott

07-06-2001, 05:01 PM	#6
PerryinCA Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 2,103	Personally I enjoy the flexibility factor, so I would opt for the standard 250. (non-EYE) -Perry

07-06-2001, 07:21 PM	#7
golfish Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Alta Loma,Ca Posts: 2,942	I'm with Perry, I would and did the standard ballast

07-06-2001, 09:34 PM	#8
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,044	Sorry, didn't want to appear partial there.

07-06-2001, 11:12 PM	#9
chromis Mayor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lynchburg, Virginia Posts: 518	I dont see why you would want the 10k? There is a significant difference in the PAR of the 10k and the iwasaki. What is more important? A pure white or your organisms health? If you want flexibilty go with ice cap. They can rewire any ballast to fit the bulb you want. Otherwise I would go with EYE, the iwaskis are cheap, efficient, and pretty much white. IMO Andrew

07-07-2001, 05:17 PM	#10
PerryinCA Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 2,103	I agree Chromis...to an extent. PFO claims that there is a 10% loss in with the use of the magnetic ballast...Sanjay's tests report a increase in output using the MH over the MV for the 250w. Its also possible to have variations of up to 25% with any given setup (in terms of output). I think its safer to use the MH, because of the flexibility... When using Iwasaki's, the 10% is a pretty negligable loss.... Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan of "lots o' light", but some prefer to have that bluer look (not me) and they'll be stuck with Iwasaki's if they change thier mind. I agree on the Icecaps though. They are all I will ever use, have always worked flawlessly for me, and are small/light/cool running. I can see how the price may hold some back. According to the RC forum, they are working on, or toward, a 400w version. That will make a lot of reefers happy. -Perry

07-07-2001, 10:25 PM	#11
chromis Mayor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lynchburg, Virginia Posts: 518	Thanks for agreeing(sort of), I think most people who are serious about sps and clams like I am are either going with iwasakis or HQI. I was dead set on the MV but am starting to consider the MH ballast. Not because I want to run a 10k but because of Sanjay's tests. However now I am thinking of running 2 x 400s over my 55 so in that case I would only get the MV ballast. My fixture wont be done for a while so I still have plenty of time to decide. Andrew

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