Second guessing LED vs T5

[ShooterRick]

Ok if I choose to go LED over T5 for my 72 bow front then How much LED is equiv. to say 300 plus watts T5. I want a all in one fixture regardless.

[chrisfont23]

Ok if I choose to go LED over T5 for my 72 bow front then How much LED is equiv. to say 300 plus watts T5. I want a all in one fixture regardless.

Here's my plan for my 90.

Lighting Plan for a 90G

I spoke to Ecoxotic about this too, and got Reefing Madness to weigh in. So that's enough for me. Anyway, I figure $1000-$1200 on the plan I specked out. Savings over time.

Here's my reply from Ecoxotic:

Dear Chris,
Thank you so much for contacting Ecoxotic and showing interest in our LED products.
For a tank of this size we would actually recommend using 3 Panorama Pro Modules on each side vs. two. When using LEDs with soft and LPS corals, we highly recommend adding a bit more blue 445nm wavelength for strong color enhancement. Adding one 445nm Blue Panorama Pro module to each side will provide this additional blue wavelength spectrum.
The Panorama Pro Modules are designed to be mounted directly onto a canopy with no issues. The Stunner LED strips would work great as a moonlight or for some color - but they normally are not strong enough to provide growth at the depth of your tank.
Please let us know if you have any further questions.
Sincerely,
The Ecoxotic Team

[Reefing Madness]

Reef Aquarium Lighting & LED Lights: Marineland Reef Capable LED Lighting System

[okiestranger]

I would love to see some comparison of the marineland reef ready led against T5s the price is not bad on this fixture. Also I am planning on leds when I set up my 150 cube.

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[Reefing Madness]

I would love to see some comparison of the marineland reef ready led against T5s the price is not bad on this fixture. Also I am planning on leds when I set up my 150 cube.

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Can't compare as if yet with reguards to color. The LED's don't have that color range yet. T-5, you have to many options on how you want your color to look in the tank.

[okiestranger]

I ment more of in the range of how this particular unit compares in par and how well it can promote coral growth.

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[ShooterRick]

I was of the understanding that the Marineland reef capable sytems were 1 watt LEDs not 3 watts and as such were not really suitable for corals. Am I mistaken?

[Reefing Madness]

I was of the understanding that the Marineland reef capable sytems were 1 watt LEDs not 3 watts and as such were not really suitable for corals. Am I mistaken?

Yes. The Reef capable one will work with tanks up to 18" deep. It has enough par.

[okiestranger]

What about 27 " depth tank is there a LED system for that?

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[chrisfont23]

I am skeptical about the marine land LEDs for a reef tank too. I am going with Ecoxotic and will build my own. I Would suggest - minimally- to take a peek at the Ecoxotic website. Pricey yes, but do the research.

[chrisfont23]

Can't compare as if yet with reguards to color. The LED's don't have that color range yet. T-5, you have to many options on how you want your color to look in the tank.

They are getting there though. You can add some nice blues and magentas to your spectrum. I believe there are a few companies that lush yellows too

[Reefing Madness]

I am skeptical about the marine land LEDs for a reef tank too. I am going with Ecoxotic and will build my own. I Would suggest - minimally- to take a peek at the Ecoxotic website. Pricey yes, but do the research.

Cree are cheaper and have the same life span, why go Eco? There are many, many more Cree DIY out there.

[ShooterRick]

Yes. The Reef capable one will work with tanks up to 18" deep. It has enough par.

So if I have a 21 inch deep tank and 2.5-3 inches of sand they would be fine?

[chrisfont23]

Cree are cheaper and have the same life span, why go Eco? There are many, many more Cree DIY out there.

I am not doing the full DIY route ... Ie soldering and wiring. I plan on purchasing the strips and outfitting them to a wall mount that is connected to a stand that will attach to the back of the tank. I do not want to run a canopy and I like the look that Eco offers. So in the end, just personal preference I guess.

[ShooterRick]

Take a look at the specs of these and tell me what your thoughts are please.

www.eshinesystems.com
3
• 60 watt using CREE series 10 3watt XP-G R5 8000~10000k white and 10
3watt XP-E D3 455nm royal blue
• High PAR value. 200 PAR reading for each LED from 5" distance
• Two dimmers for white and blue each, fan with thermal control switch
• Corrosion-proof casing by special painted
• 80 degree view angle with convex lens, mixing white and blue for
better grow effect
• Pure 450~460nm spectrums, No UV radiation harm
• Less heat, no chiller unit required, 20-30 ºC on water surface
• One fan on back runs against heat
• External power supply, detachable power cord
• Hanging kits included
• Three-Year warranty
High Power CREE LED Aquarium Light
60W CREE Pro LED Aquarium Light
Features
Item NO.
ES-60W-CA
Technical Specifications
Power Consumption 60W
LED Quantity
10x3w white & 10x3w blue
LED Type XP-E Blue & XP-G White
Input Voltage AC85~260V
Operating Frequency
50Hz-60Hz
Input Current
0.28~0.46A
LED view angle 80 degree
Operating Temp –20º C to 60º C
Dimensions
400x140x65mm
Weight
7.0 Kg
60W CREE Aquarium Light Performance (80
º view angle)
30cm. height
30cm x 30cm area
60cm. height
60cm x 60cm area
80cm. height
80cm x 80cm area
569~820
364~568
313~363
258~312
151~257
0~150
PAR Value
Packing
480x270x290mm / 2pc

[ShooterRick]

These units above are 529.00 for 2 units delivered.

[chrisfont23]

Mount to canopy issue?

[Reefing Madness]

So if I have a 21 inch deep tank and 2.5-3 inches of sand they would be fine?

Yea, you can still use it. Remember, not all your corals are going to be on the bottom. Your not going to be able to keep Clams though or sand dwelling Anemones. Keep the SPS and higher light corals in their prespective levels in the tank.

[Reefing Madness]

These are the Cree full DIY LED's.
3W High Power LED Pure White 110-130LM [SS-3WW] - US$1.99 : Satistronics Store, China Electronic Components Online Store - Wholesale Development Tools and Components from China
3W High Power LED Blue 25-35LM [SS-3WB] - US$1.89 : Satistronics Store, China Electronic Components Online Store - Wholesale Development Tools and Components from China

Or


Rapid LED Home Page

These cost a bit more.

[ShooterRick]

Mount to canopy issue?

No. They will have the canopy mount system by first of the year. I will not be buying lights right now as they are not needed for the cycle so I have some built in time.