[Reefer769]

will a pink tip haitain anemone be able to survive in a 30gal tank under stock lights?

[Leddy]

i dont think it will do well under a NO single bulb. maybe under power compacts, but i'm not that experienced in anemones. i'm scared to try them under a twin 40watt(80w) strip, because from what i hear, they need proper lighting to survive. other people should have the answer, but i dont think it'll live too long a life.

leddy

[Reefland]

Leddy is right, you should:
1. Have intese lighting, Metal Halide is preferred.
2. Have an established aquarium; 6 months old or better would be my choice.

Scott Z.

[Poseidon]

No.

[zhenya]

To be honest, I don't even know what exactly a "pink tip Haitian anemone" really is. Looking at the foot makes me think of the Condylactis, a Carribean truly giant anemone but I could be wrong on this.The shpe of the tentacles and spacing of them looks a bit off for it to be a Condy,so I'm not sure. If that's what it is, it wouldn't be a good choice becouse it is not one of the host anemones and chanses offinding a clownfish to host in it would be slim to none.

I agree with general quidelines that others provided,mainly a mature tank and strong,if not intense lighting should be in place, along with good nutrients export mechanism as they produce plenty of it if fed well.And feed them you must for their growth and survival depends on it.
Here's an interesting article by Dr.Rob Toonen on keeping anemones but mostly why we shouldn't try to keep them,really.
http://www.reefs.org/library/article/r_toonen8.html

[Ninong]

The pink-tip Haitian anemone is Condylactis gigantea, an Atlantic species that can reach 20" across. Obviously it is not a natural host for clownfish since there are no clownfish in the Atlantic, but some clownfish species will sometimes accept it; however, most will not.

It would require moderate to high lighting and regular feeding just like the other anemones. It might eat any small bottom-dwelling fish, too.

[Reefer769]

alright ive decided not to go with the pink tip haitain, haha, does anyone have any other suggestions on anemones that will be relitively small(or that will fit in my 30gl nicely), and most clownfish are known to accept it?

[Poseidon]

Nope... Anemones are very difficult to keep in general, and being that you are so new to the hobby I would think it best for you to wait till you are more "ready."

[Reefer769]

this anemone does not grow 20" across, it only grows up to 2-3", its a very small anemone, ive seen them at my LFS, and there only around $10. and once i get my lighting, i am thinking on buying one.

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by Reefer769

this anemone does not grow 20" across, it only grows up to 2-3", its a very small anemone, ive seen them at my LFS

Good luck!



P.S. -- We will have to get them to change the name. Condylactis gigantea seems inappropriate for an anemone that is only 2"-3" when it grows up.

[Reefer769]

The Haitian Anemone, a.k.a. Pink Tip Haitian, is a beautiful Anemone with flowing white tentacles that are often tipped in pink. The base of these Anemones is usually bright orange in color. These Anemones are hardy and like a strong flow and strong light. They can be spot fed once every couple of weeks. They have been known to accept different species of Clownfish. Anemones will not tolerate poor water quality.

Size:2-3 inchesCare Level:ModerateTemperament:PeacefulReef Safe:YesDiet:Meaty Foods and Strong LightingOrigin:CaribbeanAcclimation Time:Temperature Acclimate

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by Reefer769

The Haitian Anemone, a.k.a. Pink Tip Haitian, is a beautiful Anemone with flowing white tentacles that are often tipped in pink. The base of these Anemones is usually bright orange in color. These Anemones are hardy and like a strong flow and strong light. They can be spot fed once every couple of weeks. They have been known to accept different species of Clownfish. Anemones will not tolerate poor water quality.

Size:2-3 inchesCare Level:ModerateTemperament:PeacefulReef Safe:YesDiet:Meaty Foods and Strong LightingOrigin:CaribbeanAcclimation Time:Temperature Acclimate

You have posted the product description from a vendor's website. The Size of 2-3 inches refers to the average size of the animals they are selling, not the adult size.

If you do a search under Condylactis gigantea, Haitian Pink Tip Anemone, Florida Condy, Condy Anemone, you will find that the average size of mature specimens is 12"-16" (maximum reported size is 20"). These animals are found throughout the Western Atlantic. The picture you posted is of the variant collected in shallow lagoons in Haiti. That variant can easily grow to 12" across.

[Ninong]

Here is a different online vendor, eTropicals (a division of Drs. Foster & Smith): http://www.etropicals.com/product/sc...43&pCatId=1201

They are selling them under two different common names, Florida Condy and Pink Tip Anemone. Both are the same species, just collected from different areas.

[Reefer769]

oooo, wow, i never knew that when it said 2-3" as the description it meant that was how big they are selling them as... sorry about my stupidity, i guess i wont be getting the anemone afterall...

[Ninong]

Reefer769,

There are some interesting lessons to be learned from the ad copy of these two different vendors (at least I assume the copy you posted came from a vendor). The first thing you will notice is that they do not agree on whether it is peaceful or aggressive. The copy you posted says peaceful but the eTropicals site says aggressive. All anemones are aggressive. They can roam around the tank killing every coral they come across and they are quite capable of eating small fish and inverts. That's what they do for a living.

According to the copy you posted: "They can be spot fed once every couple of weeks." Notice their use of the phase "can be." They should be fed at least twice a week for good health.

The copy you posted says: ReefSafe--Yes. The description on eTropicals of ReefSafe with Caution is more accurate.

Here is an interesting quote from eTropicals:

Its disc diameter is of 16" (40 cm), but a disc of about 4" (10 cm) is common in an aquarium. This species has diverse color variations.

Notice their clever wording here. They want you to purchase their product so they are not going to tell you that it will get too big for your tank. The statement "a disc of about 4" is common in an aquarium" is only true because very few people get them to survive to grow to maturity. If you check some of the websites of some of the more advanced aquarists with large tanks (300+ gallons) you will see pics of host sea anemones (not Condylactis) that are quite large, some well in excess of 12" across. So yes, all of these anemones are capable of growing to adult size if given the proper conditions and a large enough tank.

This brings me to my favorite line from the stoner at the local LFS: "None of our fish get bigger than about 4" in our tanks." That's what they have told him to tell newbies who are worried that the nice fishy they are considering buying might get too big for their tank. The truth of that statement is that they won't live long enough to get bigger than 4", not that 4" is their normal adult size.

[Reefer769]

haha, i sure have learned a lot. from now on i need to do a lot of researching before i go out and buy something from my LFS, thanks ninong youve helped out a lot.

[Poseidon]

LOL!!!!

Reefer one of the first things I learned on this board is Ninong has the ANSWERS... If he doesn't know it, it is not worth knowing!!!