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Old 03-27-2004, 02:35 AM   #1
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Question Little help on setting up new tank

My problem is I've solved my handon over flow problem(what to buy)
I just purchased a 75Gal bow front allglass with built-in mega overflow(ya ho)
My RO unit will be in on Monday afternoon for the water, I can get some well water if need be(this is the same water thats in my tank now).
I do have a 15 gal quarintine tank set up.

My ultimate goal is to put the 75 were the 55 now stands.

To begin my existing setup:
55 gallon long
hang on seaclone skimmer
hang on empor 400 filter
250 watt heater sub
45lb figi live rock
1.5-3 inch sand sub
1 cleaner shrimp
1 yellow tang
2 yellow tail damsels
60+ assorted snails and crabs.
1 tree spong
1 green star polyp


I'll list out may plan and would like for all to interject any comments...

1. move the spong with few peices of live rock to quart.
2. move the polyp to quart.
3. move yellow tang and shrimp to quart.
4. fill five gallon pails with live rock and aquarium water.
(might as well put the power head in with them.)
5. fill another five gallon with about 6 inches of my sand and
many snails and crabs as possible...
6. put remaining sand into bucket.
7. move tank

Set up new tank
8. lickity split the new tank is setup...
9....
10...

I'm not sure at this point if I should put all my old sand back in or just add the 6 inches or so that I plan on saving to the top with the crabs and snails..? I have another 100 lbs of sand waiting to be washed out...

Will there be a big benifit in using a large portion of my old water.? or is mixing up a new batch good...?

I have so many questions...
May be I'll post some pictures of my before, during, and after...

Wish me luck.
Nick
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Old 03-27-2004, 03:51 AM   #2
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My problem is I've solved my handon over flow problem(what to buy)
I just purchased a 75Gal bow front allglass with built-in mega overflow(ya ho)
My RO unit will be in on Monday afternoon for the water, I can get some well water if need be(this is the same water thats in my tank now).
I do have a 15 gal quarintine tank set up.
That is a nice sized tank and I really like the effect of a bowfront. Before you jump into setting it up, what do you plan to do for a sump and return pump?

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My ultimate goal is to put the 75 were the 55 now stands.

To begin my existing setup:
55 gallon long
hang on seaclone skimmer
hang on empor 400 filter
250 watt heater sub
45lb figi live rock
1.5-3 inch sand sub
1 cleaner shrimp
1 yellow tang
2 yellow tail damsels
60+ assorted snails and crabs.
1 tree spong
1 green star polyp
Lets do it right this time.
1. Ditch the seaclone and get a good skimmer that will go in your sump.
2. Ditch the emperor.
3. The 250w heater is nice, I like to run 2 heaters in my sump just in case 1 fails.
4. 45lbs of rock is a good start, but your going to need some more.
5. Get some additional new sand.

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I'll list out may plan and would like for all to interject any comments...

1. move the spong with few peices of live rock to quart.
2. move the polyp to quart.
3. move yellow tang and shrimp to quart.
4. fill five gallon pails with live rock and aquarium water.
(might as well put the power head in with them.)
5. fill another five gallon with about 6 inches of my sand and
many snails and crabs as possible...
6. put remaining sand into bucket.
7. move tank

Set up new tank
8. lickity split the new tank is setup...
9....
10...
A lot of this is going to depend on the time that you remove the 55 and set up the 75. My suggestion would be to remove everything from the 55gallon and move it over to the q tank (place what rock won't fit into buckets). Take down the 55 and place the 72 bow in it's place. Hook up all your equipment and plumbing and start filling it with new ASW that you already have made up with your new RO water. Once filled, turn everything on and when your temp and salinity are correct, move everything into the new tank.

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I'm not sure at this point if I should put all my old sand back in or just add the 6 inches or so that I plan on saving to the top with the crabs and snails..? I have another 100 lbs of sand waiting to be washed out...
I would not add all of the old sand back. I would scoop out some of your current sand bed and add it to the top of your new dry sand, which you should NOT rinse.

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Will there be a big benifit in using a large portion of my old water.? or is mixing up a new batch good...?
Since you will now have the ability for purer water, I would use all new water.

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I have so many questions...
May be I'll post some pictures of my before, during, and after...

Wish me luck.
Nick
keep asking them and congrats on the purchase!
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Old 03-27-2004, 06:49 AM   #3
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I'm a newb so I'm not much help. But I can tell you that's an awesome Tank IMO. I have the same one and just getting started with it.

BTW, is that a 75 or 72 Gal? Myne is a 72 Gal All Glass bow front. I didn't know they made a 75.

Anyway... GL!
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Old 03-27-2004, 11:05 AM   #4
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Hello, thanks for the info,

(Tie) - Your correct it is a 72, my mistake.

(Scott) - I really cannot dump the skimmer and filter yet, but soon...

What would you recomend for my situation for the each...?
I'm assuming your going to sugest a inline filter so all water is filter...?

I have a 42 gal rubbermaid (overflow protection) which I planned on putting a 10 gallon glass tank in for the sump. I have been looking for a design for the sump, I will get 1/4 plexi for whatever divisions...

I have puchased a Mag 700 for the return pump, this was sug. by the LFS.


Is there a way I could use my current filter and skimmer until I have the extra cash for the right ones..?

Thanks everyone..
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Hey Nick,

Well it goes to the "do it right the first time" statement. You can use what you have but it can complicate the addition of a new skimmer later. My suggestion would be to continue running your 55 as is until you have everythng together for the new 72.
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Old 03-27-2004, 04:40 PM   #6
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Ok Ok,

I'm looking at the
Eheim Professional II Filter(2026) or the
Eheim Wet/Dry Canister Filter (2227)

They are the the same $$, so I'm really confused which is my best choice...?

Then back to that darn skimmer, What would be my most cost effective choice?

Hellp I'm additcted.

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Nick,

You do not need the Eheim or any other type of mechanical filtration other than the skimmer. The liverock, sandbed and skimmer (along with normal maintenance) will take care of your water filtration.

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Old 03-27-2004, 05:31 PM   #8
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Ah, I'm beginning to under stand this a little more.

I'm then thinking, buy another 40lbs of LR when things are set up.

I'll keep working on my sump layout then.

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