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Old 09-15-2004, 02:43 PM   #21
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Thanks ninong that helps alot. For some reason I thoght that the mini hospital tank had to be cycled because, well fish survive in stable water.
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Old 09-15-2004, 03:11 PM   #22
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Thanks ninong that helps alot. For some reason I thoght that the mini hospital tank had to be cycled because, well fish survive in stable water.
You still need to maintain reasonably good water quality. How difficult that is depends on the number of fish you need to keep in quarantine at the same time and the volume of water in the tank.

Obviously a quarantine tank that has been running for several days/weeks will be more stable than one that was just set up yesterday. Some people will run the hang-on filter on their main display tank for a couple of days first before using it on their quarantine tank. That way it will have some beneficial bacteria already on it before you stick it on the Q-tank. You probably should not do that if you are fighting Cryptocaryon irritans in the main tank.
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Old 09-15-2004, 03:24 PM   #23
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I will be honest with you. They say that the best way of introducing a new fish to your tank is by placing him in a QT. Im guilty. What I do is float the bag for about 20 minutes then release into my tank, not with LFS water though. I should stop this method because of diseases a fish can carry from LFS. Now should I place that new fish in QT for a couple of days and then place it on the main tank after I notice that there are no problems correct? Should I always have water in that QT even though there are no fishes to be treated?
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Old 09-15-2004, 03:29 PM   #24
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I will be honest with you. They say that the best way of introducing a new fish to your tank is by placing him in a QT. Im guilty. What I do is float the bag for about 20 minutes then release into my tank, not with LFS water though. I should stop this method because of diseases a fish can carry from LFS. Now should I place that new fish in QT for a couple of days and then place it on the main tank after I notice that there are no problems correct? Should I always have water in that QT even though there are no fishes to be treated?
A couple of days in quarantine is not sufficient. You should keep a new fish in quarantine for at least three weeks. Whether you keep the Q-tank up and running all the time is up to you. Most people don't do that unless they have a really large main system and are constantly in need of quarantining something.
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Hmm interesting. What i'll do is this. When ever I purchase a fish I will set up my QT with fresh saltwater and keep them there for at least 3 weeks then introduce them into the main tank.
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Old 09-22-2004, 11:35 PM   #26
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just for the record everyone, i realized that i do NOT have ich in the tank.
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Old 09-23-2004, 08:57 AM   #27
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What did you have then?
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just for the record everyone, i realized that i do NOT have ich in the tank.



What then did you discover you have?
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Old 09-23-2004, 06:18 PM   #29
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i guess it was just sand grains on the fins
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here but.....usually sand grains don't settle on a fish's fins.
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okay give me a break here dammit im just a kid, i have no idea what it was, but its not ich
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okay give me a break here dammit im just a kid, i have no idea what it was, but its not ich

Is it "not ich" cause you can no longer see the spots? Cause you know that the spots drop off when the parasite hits it Larval stage! They will free swim for some time then MORE SPOTS will appear on your fish. Since it is a closed environment in your tank, the parasite will continue to reproduce in your tank unless you a) remove the parasites food (your fish) or b) Treat your tank with Copper! That will certainly kill the parasite, but also your snails crabs and any corals you have! or c) and Ninong may have more info on how effective this really is, add a BIG UV steralizer to kill the parasite during its larval stage.

I think if I were in your shoes I would go for option A just to be on the safe side and prevent the possibility of further infections....
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Is it "not ich" cause you can no longer see the spots?
Maybe he was just smoking some of his signature at the time!

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I have had Ich once in my display tank and unfortunately my hospital tank wasn’t up and running at the time. I treated my fish with Mardel Saltwater CopperSafe and it cleared up in about a weak in my display tank with damage to any inhabitants. However if you have any invertebrates without exoskeletons such as anemones etc. do not use this medication.

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wow i think ICH is back in my aquarium for the second time in a REALLY short time period... wow i am so upset right now. i really dont know what to do, i just got done fishting this damm parasite not to long ago, and once again it is back. i REALLY REALLY REALLY dont want to set up the hospital again and have to go through that once more. this sucks so bad, maybe after a few weeks of water changes thing will turn out alright, but if it doesnt and it starts to get extreme then i guess i will have no choice but to RIP apart my tank AGAIN and put the fish in the hospital. the thing that sucks is i have to take out the damm rock everytime i want to catch a fish becuase they would be IMPOSSIBLE to catch other wise.
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I have had Ich once in my display tank and unfortunately my hospital tank wasn’t up and running at the time. I treated my fish with Mardel Saltwater CopperSafe and it cleared up in about a weak in my display tank with damage to any inhabitants. However if you have any invertebrates without exoskeletons such as anemones etc. do not use this medication.
Mardel Labs' CopperSafe is chelated copper sulfate. It is harmful to ALL invertebrates.
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Meric,

Very nice post! You are well informed on the subject of Cryptocaryon irritans (ich). Have you read this series on the subject?

http://www.marineaquariumadvice.com/...um_fish_1.html

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