Time frame to add new fish

Peterock · 03-17-2005, 11:59 AM

Ok lately I have noticed one of my blue devil damsels missing and today i found him in the bottom of the tank with one of my emerald crabs eatting him. Should I take him out the tank or just let them eat him up. What problem can occur if I leave him in the tank, as far as water test.

Samper · 03-17-2005, 01:18 PM

Depending on your system size you could see a spike in Ammonia thus starting sort of a mini cycle. Even if I had a large system I'd remove anything I could that was dead.

Nelsonius · 03-20-2005, 01:38 AM

I'd probably remove him too. No need for the spike the decomposition might cause. The funny thing about damsels, is that no matter how many you buy, you usually eventually end up with only one.

Peterock · 03-20-2005, 02:26 AM

Ok everyone did a 5 gal water change and moved the aquascape around after moving some of the lr that was sitting on the sand I found a few black spots I guess those are the dead spots that people talk about. Since I moved stuff around in the tank will all that stir-up creat problems in the tank as far as water test go. After my water test this morning found out that my calcium was around 550-600 from one of the LFS test, 510 at another which one to belive? The one that tested 550-600 said that it was my salt because I was using Oceanic and he said to get rid of that sh%#. Decided to buy Kent instead said that its a much easir salt and one of the tops all around.Whats you guys answer on this?

Nelsonius · 03-20-2005, 04:26 PM

It depends on what brand of calcium test each is- in my opinion. I listened to advice here and bought a salifert test fo calcium, and one for alkalinity. I tried using a cheaper calcium test and got a lower number (around 550 or so). Using these tests, I had a similar problem with calcium. The salifert said my calcium was around 600 or so. It raised slightly after "stirring things up". Water changes over the last few months have reduced it to 440. I use the instant ocean salt also. I think I had a lot of extra calcium that settled out, and is continuing to dissolve. My corals are looking good and snails are growing well also though. I have 4 LPS corals and numerous snails, and for a month straight my test reads 430-440. I haven't ever used any other brand of salt, so I guess I can't input there, but I have thought about trying Kent. It is tough for me to get the last little bit of Instant Ocean to dissolve, and that upsets my corals if any gets in the tank. Everything seems to settle out after a couple days.

Peterock · 03-21-2005, 02:23 AM

Did something I should not have done added more fish,

1-Dwarf Fuzzy Lionfish
2-small False Pecrula clownfish

Had to get them because I have been wathcing them in the tanks look lonley so I had to take them the lionfish is 85% broken to eat frozen and the 2 clowns are happy they have someone to play with in my tank. After putting them in the tank my clown that was inthere started do flips and swimming on his side and all kind of wierd stuff around the other two clowns. Taking the Damsels and the Tang out tomorrow and taking them back to the LFS.

Spick · 03-21-2005, 08:00 PM

good work man... success is all about chemistry between your fish!

Peterock · 03-21-2005, 09:48 PM

Ok people please help me with my decision

I want to take my 3 damsels and yellow tang out of my tank and just keep 3 false clowns and 1 fuzzy dwarflionfish. Last night I noticed that everyone in the tank is getting alone the damsels are hanging out the the clowns and the lionfish is just swiming around checking out things with no problems. Should I take them out because I am worried about the bio-load of the tank so I added 4 caps of A.C.T. to help introduce more bacteria to help with the piss and Sh#%.

***Reefland*** · 03-21-2005, 10:57 PM

Yes, you should definitely remove them even thought they appear to be doing ok.

Spick · 03-22-2005, 08:02 PM

remove the damsels!

Peterock · 03-23-2005, 06:05 PM

Got rid of my damsels, dwarf lionfish and yellow tang today. and picked up a small anemonie for my 3 clowns. I think that I am just going to keep those fish in the tank and nothing else

03-17-2005, 01:18 PM	#22
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03-21-2005, 10:57 PM	#29
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03-17-2005, 11:59 AM	#21
Peterock Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 185	Ok lately I have noticed one of my blue devil damsels missing and today i found him in the bottom of the tank with one of my emerald crabs eatting him. Should I take him out the tank or just let them eat him up. What problem can occur if I leave him in the tank, as far as water test.

03-20-2005, 01:38 AM	#23
Nelsonius Just Moved In Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 24	I'd probably remove him too. No need for the spike the decomposition might cause. The funny thing about damsels, is that no matter how many you buy, you usually eventually end up with only one.

03-20-2005, 02:26 AM	#24
Peterock Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 185	Ok everyone did a 5 gal water change and moved the aquascape around after moving some of the lr that was sitting on the sand I found a few black spots I guess those are the dead spots that people talk about. Since I moved stuff around in the tank will all that stir-up creat problems in the tank as far as water test go. After my water test this morning found out that my calcium was around 550-600 from one of the LFS test, 510 at another which one to belive? The one that tested 550-600 said that it was my salt because I was using Oceanic and he said to get rid of that sh%#. Decided to buy Kent instead said that its a much easir salt and one of the tops all around.Whats you guys answer on this?

03-20-2005, 04:26 PM	#25
Nelsonius Just Moved In Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Augusta, GA Posts: 24	It depends on what brand of calcium test each is- in my opinion. I listened to advice here and bought a salifert test fo calcium, and one for alkalinity. I tried using a cheaper calcium test and got a lower number (around 550 or so). Using these tests, I had a similar problem with calcium. The salifert said my calcium was around 600 or so. It raised slightly after "stirring things up". Water changes over the last few months have reduced it to 440. I use the instant ocean salt also. I think I had a lot of extra calcium that settled out, and is continuing to dissolve. My corals are looking good and snails are growing well also though. I have 4 LPS corals and numerous snails, and for a month straight my test reads 430-440. I haven't ever used any other brand of salt, so I guess I can't input there, but I have thought about trying Kent. It is tough for me to get the last little bit of Instant Ocean to dissolve, and that upsets my corals if any gets in the tank. Everything seems to settle out after a couple days.

03-21-2005, 02:23 AM	#26
Peterock Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 185	Did something I should not have done added more fish, 1-Dwarf Fuzzy Lionfish 2-small False Pecrula clownfish Had to get them because I have been wathcing them in the tanks look lonley so I had to take them the lionfish is 85% broken to eat frozen and the 2 clowns are happy they have someone to play with in my tank. After putting them in the tank my clown that was inthere started do flips and swimming on his side and all kind of wierd stuff around the other two clowns. Taking the Damsels and the Tang out tomorrow and taking them back to the LFS.

03-21-2005, 08:00 PM	#27
Spick Citizen Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 108	good work man... success is all about chemistry between your fish!

03-21-2005, 09:48 PM	#28
Peterock Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 185	Ok people please help me with my decision I want to take my 3 damsels and yellow tang out of my tank and just keep 3 false clowns and 1 fuzzy dwarflionfish. Last night I noticed that everyone in the tank is getting alone the damsels are hanging out the the clowns and the lionfish is just swiming around checking out things with no problems. Should I take them out because I am worried about the bio-load of the tank so I added 4 caps of A.C.T. to help introduce more bacteria to help with the piss and Sh#%.

03-22-2005, 08:02 PM	#30
Spick Citizen Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 108	remove the damsels!

03-23-2005, 06:05 PM	#31
Peterock Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 185	Got rid of my damsels, dwarf lionfish and yellow tang today. and picked up a small anemonie for my 3 clowns. I think that I am just going to keep those fish in the tank and nothing else

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