[fishgeeksrus]

I found some very interesting information today about different salt products. Unfortunately for me, our salt mixture was not really up to par.

Here is a link to the main page, just find the salt that you use...

http://www.aquacraft.net/

note: they are located on the right side of the page towards the bottom. ENJOY READING!!!

[tatuvaaj]

fishgeeksrus,

The study you referred to is not seen as credible by the majority of experienced hobbyists.

Try searching for "S-15" from any major reefkeeping forums...

[fishgeeksrus]

confused...why wouldn't this seem credible? Explain please

[fishgeeksrus]

I did find this quote...

Originally posted by fishetcinc
Ahh ... the infamous Anesco "S-15 report". I was wondering when that would pop-up again. Brings back memories of when I was in still college. The *cough* report was done back in 1993 if I remember. Back then, trace metals and minerals were tested for total concentration and not bioavailable ions like we do now so the results are somewhat outdated.
If fact, the aquacraft.net website looks exactly the same as it did back in 1993. Back then, I dismissed the whole thing as a clever marketing gimmick made to look like a scientific study. I didn't like companies that try to fool customers by abusing scientific jargon and I don't like them now.

Furthermore, I really hate businesses such as Aqua-craft.net that feel they must discredit all their competitors to be competitive. Their entire marketing strategy is nothing but negative assaults (clearly unsubstantiated or outright false) at competitors. IMO, you should succeed by standing on your own product; not by bashing on everyone else. Never heard anything bad about their salt but I simply do not like their business ethic, or lack of it.

K.

[tatuvaaj]

Scores:

Salts from the manufacturer who ordered the test:
Marine Envrionment 100/100
BIO-SEA 90/100
Coral Marine 79/100

Salts from other manufacturers that are well known for their quality (including scientific tests):
HW 33/100
Tropic Marin 29/100
Instant Ocean 26/100

Do I need to say more ???

[fishgeeksrus]

Very interesting...

What salt do you use?

[fishgeeksrus]

I found that link on the IMAC website... they are one of the exhibitors

[tatuvaaj]

Originally Posted by fishgeeksrus

What salt do you use?

Currently HW, I have never been able to detect any big differencies between the major brands (except for the speed they dissolve).

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by fishgeeksrus

confused...why wouldn't this seem credible? Explain please

The S-15 Report, AquaCraft and Michael Del Prete have been discussed repeatedly for as long as there have been reefkeeping bulletin boards. Mr. Del Prete has participated in some of those threads. If you are truly interested in a thorough explanation, you will have to read what has already been discussed. It is not possible to summarize the conclusions in a few short paragraphs.

I see that you are a member of Reef Central, so I will post the Reef Central threads that I have personally participated in:

From 6/30/2000: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...ght=S15+report

From 2/27/2001: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...ght=S15+report

From 6/1/2001: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...ght=S15+report

From 10/31/2002: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...&highlight=S15

In this particular thread from 7/8/2004, MDPinUSA (Michael Del Prete) joins the discussion around page 7: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...5&pagenumber=1

Rather than post all of the threads that discuss this topic, I think I will stop after that last one in which we engaged Mr. Del Prete in a discussion of his products and his claims.

P.S. -- Do not assume that anything in those threads is a definitive statement on the merits of any of Del Prete's salt mixes. The disagreement centers on his marketing methods and his statements about his competitors.

[tatuvaaj]

Originally Posted by Ninong

Rather than post all of the threads that discuss this topic, I think I will stop after that last one in which we engaged Mr. Del Prete in a discussion of his products and his claims.

You know, I almost did not reply to this thread because I've seen and read enough about this issue...

But, OTH, those of us that have been around a couple of years should try to point out that this study is not without problems. IMHO, naturally.

[Ninong]

Tatu,

I replied here and on Reef Central in hopes that linking to some of the earlier threads would "put out the fires" in advance.

I think that the thread in which we finally got Del Prete to participate should satisfy the curiosity of anyone wondering about the claims made on his website.

I don't think Del Prete understands that he is actually hurting the reputation of his products with his outrageous marketing. It could be that his salt mix is pretty good but all of the attention is centered on his marketing methods.

[Penguin]

I don't think Del Prete understands that he is actually hurting the reputation of his products with his outrageous marketing

Exactly. I think you can get an idea just by the overall tone of his web site and "newsletter"--Marine Environment is worth its weight in gold and every other salt on the market is absolute crap. I don't buy it.