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Join Date: Oct 2000
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Bristle worms
YOYO! What will eat these? Are they good or bad? I have tons.
SHOG ![]()
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Bardstown, KY
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YOYO SHOG WASSUP!
These worms are very beneficial detritus and carrion eaters which migrate thoughout liverock and sand if your running a DSB. They are an excellent part of a "clean-up" crew and one with a bunch of them should be proud. ![]() |
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Yes, that's a picture of what is commonly called a bristleworm -- probably a member of the genus Eurythoe. Good guys!
I posted a picture of one of my 7" bristleworms in this thread: http://www.reefland.com/forum/showth...nata#post93852 ![]()
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Ninong,
I have a biggie (he's maybe 5 inches, not QUITE as big as yours) who looks like the twin of yours. Haven't seen him in a week or two... just is smaller pals. SHOG -- I have LOTS in my 55G. They're pretty cool. Rebecca |
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Phillips Ranch, CA
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Bristle worms are defintely good, in moderation
A arrow crab and sixline wrasse are very good for combating bristle worms... You got to be careful with bristle worms because to many will start to munch on clams and some coral...
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On the other hand, adding an arrow crab to the reef tank can have quite negative effect in itself, they may be more destructive than any other coral eating worm.
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Just Moved In
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Phillips Ranch, CA
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I dont agree...
I have had plenty of experience with different types of detritus eating worms... but in this case since we are talking about bristle worms I think it’s safe to say that they can become a nuisance if they propagate to unmanageable numbers... A six line wrasse or an arrow crab would be hardly detrimental to a reef system ... no more than a bristle worm... Remember- we are all speaking from our own experience within the hobby... I have seen many posts that I don’t necessarily agree with, but none that I would say need to be censored!
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Well, your post hasn't been sensored actually. I just stated my own opinion about your post and information within. Nothing personal was intended, BTW.
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Just Moved In
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Ca, USA
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Hi All!
Just joined and came upon this thread. I found one of these guys today in my tank. Some say they can be quite destructive while others say they are good, so i'm quite confused now. |
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Hi Rokie
![]() No worries, I have MANY MANY, maybe in the hundreds! Good stuff, no need to try and combat them with any "traps" or anything like that. If you somehow have a worm takeover then a Pseudochromis or other biological control can be readily available. |
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Bardstown, KY
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Ho Rokie,
![]() I wouldn't worry about them being bad. As mentioned above here most would consider them a welcome addition to a reef tank. I would also bet that since you found one, you have other, which will turn into many others. ![]() |
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Join Date: Feb 2000
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Alright, you beat me to this one Mike. We need to figure out a way to show an early warning of who is replying to a thread.
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Just Moved In
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Thanks for the welcome and reply!
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People make statements about bristleworms "propagating to unmanageable numbers," but their populations are limited by available food resources. Their numbers will rise and fall in response to available food and predation pressures. This is true of many different populations in a reef environment. I have quite a few bristleworms (Eurythoe complanata) in my aquarium and I have (or had) five Tridacnid clams (three expired following Hurricane Katrina). I have never had a problem with any of my clams with bristleworms. The only bristleworm problem I have is that my Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani) will eat them if he can find them. I still have dozens (probably hundreds) of them. I think they're great. If you have a question about a particular species (or even a particular genus), then we can talk specifics. Yes, some are a threat but the vast majority are not. Saying that "bristleworms" are a threat in reef tanks is like saying that mammals are a threat. I take that back, mammals are much more likely to be a threat than bristleworms but unless you specify whether you're talking about a toy poodle or a Siberian tiger, the statement is meaningless.
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Join Date: Nov 2005
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Well as far as I can tell it looks like the one pictured here. http://www.reefland.com/forum/attach...orms-worm.jpg?
So I will be able to sleep nights. ![]() |
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Join Date: Feb 2004
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I will add, don't pick them up with your bare hand. You could get a lesson in pain you soon won't forget.
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I have a Fridmani Pseudochromis that loves to eat the little bristleworms, i swear the little fish actually goes out and hunts them, really fun to watch. I have heard other dottybacks will eat the worms as well. It will keep there population in check. good luck.
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Not to get off on a tangent (because that never happens on Reefland
) but I thought I'd post up the link to GaryZ's bristleworm discussion that took place a couple of weeks ago.Snail Assassin? Check it out! BTW, I also have a ton of polychaete bristleworms in my tank. It's interesting to see the population go up and down (seemingly inversely) with my water quality... and when I move the tank, I always find some really long ones somewhere in the rock, dangling off and totally freaking whoever is helping me out. ![]()
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