Death to a friend

Peterock · 03-29-2005, 11:56 AM

Hello again all I found one of my false clowns laying at the bottom of my tank this morning and was wondering how and why. This clown was the one that had the salt spots on his body (ICK) can that be the reason he died because my other two clowns look fine as they constantly play in my carpet anemone. Also I have 2 emerald green crabs that will eat the dead fish should i leave him in there or just take him out.

**Poseidon** · 03-29-2005, 12:21 PM

TAKE HIM OUT!!!!

Yes! Ick can kill your fish, that is why we try so hard to NOT get it!

vtec si · 03-29-2005, 03:45 PM

TAKE HIM OUT DO NOT DELAY!!!!

Sorry about your loss!

Martin

Peterock · 03-29-2005, 05:29 PM

Yes I took him out and did a water test these are my results as of today

ph-8.1
alk- 10.2
sg- 1.024
amm- 0
nitrate- 25

***zhenya*** · 03-30-2005, 02:56 PM

Sorry about your loss, Peter.

As far as tests go, everything you posted looks in normal range except for the NO3( Nitrates), I think this is a bit high. Do a water change and see if you can lower it. Do you use tap water for your aquarium or RO/DI or what?
Also, you have a wet/dry, do you clean it regularly?

Peterock · 03-30-2005, 08:09 PM

I empty the skimmer everyother day and I have not touched the section with the bio-balls in it. But I am doing a 20 gallon change tomorrow and I am using Both Ro and tap but I am quickly going to be using only RO.

***Reefland*** · 03-30-2005, 08:50 PM

Peterock,

Do a search on bio-balls, I think you'll be surprised with what you find. Basically they are very effective at providing an environment for bacteria to convert ammonia to nitrite and nitrite to nitrate but the buck stops there. In addition, the media will get pretty dirty with waste that just adds to the problem of high nitrates.

ibjmg · 03-30-2005, 09:12 PM

very true about the bioballs statement

**Poseidon** · 03-30-2005, 09:29 PM

Yup you are better of with NOTHING in that chamber... You can still let teh water drip, but do not put anything in there that bacteria can colonize.

vtec si · 03-30-2005, 09:40 PM

PIMO I would take out the bio balls and put in LR rubble.

Martin

Peterock · 03-30-2005, 11:03 PM

So just get some broken pieces of live rock and put there instead??????????????

***Reefland*** · 03-30-2005, 11:06 PM

Or even larger pieces of liverock, as long as it is completely submerged.

Peterock · 03-30-2005, 11:07 PM

Cool thanks for the tip thats why I love this place because LFS will not tell you that type of info.......

How about this since I do have a hang on tank filter and skimmer combo, is it possible to make that into a very, very small refugium?

03-29-2005, 11:56 AM	#1
Peterock Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 185	Death to a friend Hello again all I found one of my false clowns laying at the bottom of my tank this morning and was wondering how and why. This clown was the one that had the salt spots on his body (ICK) can that be the reason he died because my other two clowns look fine as they constantly play in my carpet anemone. Also I have 2 emerald green crabs that will eat the dead fish should i leave him in there or just take him out.

03-29-2005, 12:21 PM	#2
Poseidon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Swartz Creek, MI Posts: 6,353	TAKE HIM OUT!!!! Yes! Ick can kill your fish, that is why we try so hard to NOT get it! __________________ Need a Photographer? Just say NO to CRABS Mike

03-29-2005, 03:45 PM	#3
vtec si Governor Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denver co, USA Posts: 1,017	TAKE HIM OUT DO NOT DELAY!!!! Sorry about your loss! Martin __________________ VTEC SI Last edited by vtec si; 03-29-2005 at 03:51 PM.

03-30-2005, 02:56 PM	#5
*zhenya* Owner Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: new jersey,usa Posts: 7,752	Sorry about your loss, Peter. As far as tests go, everything you posted looks in normal range except for the NO3( Nitrates), I think this is a bit high. Do a water change and see if you can lower it. Do you use tap water for your aquarium or RO/DI or what? Also, you have a wet/dry, do you clean it regularly? __________________ Kind regards, Gene.

03-30-2005, 08:50 PM	#7
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,044	Peterock, Do a search on bio-balls, I think you'll be surprised with what you find. Basically they are very effective at providing an environment for bacteria to convert ammonia to nitrite and nitrite to nitrate but the buck stops there. In addition, the media will get pretty dirty with waste that just adds to the problem of high nitrates. __________________ Scott Z. 75 Gallon Reef Log Powered by Reefland's Personal Online Aquarium Log

03-29-2005, 05:29 PM	#4
Peterock Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 185	Yes I took him out and did a water test these are my results as of today ph-8.1 alk- 10.2 sg- 1.024 amm- 0 nitrate- 25

03-30-2005, 08:09 PM	#6
Peterock Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 185	I empty the skimmer everyother day and I have not touched the section with the bio-balls in it. But I am doing a 20 gallon change tomorrow and I am using Both Ro and tap but I am quickly going to be using only RO.

03-30-2005, 09:12 PM	#8
ibjmg Contributing Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: fremont ,CA "NOR CAL" Posts: 155	very true about the bioballs statement

03-30-2005, 09:29 PM	#9
Poseidon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Swartz Creek, MI Posts: 6,353	Yup you are better of with NOTHING in that chamber... You can still let teh water drip, but do not put anything in there that bacteria can colonize. __________________ Need a Photographer? Just say NO to CRABS Mike

03-30-2005, 09:40 PM	#10
vtec si Governor Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Denver co, USA Posts: 1,017	PIMO I would take out the bio balls and put in LR rubble. Martin __________________ VTEC SI

03-30-2005, 11:03 PM	#11
Peterock Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 185	So just get some broken pieces of live rock and put there instead??????????????

03-30-2005, 11:06 PM	#12
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,044	Or even larger pieces of liverock, as long as it is completely submerged. __________________ Scott Z. 75 Gallon Reef Log Powered by Reefland's Personal Online Aquarium Log

03-30-2005, 11:07 PM	#13
Peterock Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nashville Posts: 185	Cool thanks for the tip thats why I love this place because LFS will not tell you that type of info....... How about this since I do have a hang on tank filter and skimmer combo, is it possible to make that into a very, very small refugium?

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