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Old 05-04-2005, 01:59 PM   #1
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new revised revised fish list feed back

Hey how goes it. Ok here is my revised revised revised list. I have a 72x18x20H tank about 150lbs of live rock with ½” sandbed. 45 gal sump with 30lbs of miracle mud and caulerpa. A sedra 1200gph and 586gph pump for the returm. Total circulating water 140gal. currently have 5 damsels in the sump. Will run like this for 3mo. Then add half the crabs and snails. (Creature list below ). Run with these for additional 3mo. Then add rest of creatures except fire shrimp. Run with these for 1-2mo. Add fire shrimp. Run for 2wk then star to add first group of fish. Approx 8mo. Tank running Before first group goes in. damsels out. then add each group 1-2mo. Apart.

FISH LIST:


Group #1

1-green clown goby (gobioudon atrangulatrus)

1-yellow clown goby (gobioudon okiwawee)

1-2/twin spot goby (signigobius biocellatus)

1-sailfin blenny (salaries fasciatus)

1-lineatus fairy wrasse (cirrhilabrus lineatus)





Group#2

3-green chromis (chromis viridis)

1-flame angel (centropyge loriculos)

1-flameback angel brazilian (centopyge aurantonus)

1-blue hippon tang (paracanthurus)



Group#3

1-yellow tang (zebrasoma flavescens)

1-regal angel (pygoplites diacanthus )

1-orcid dottyback (fridmani pseudochromis)

1-mandrine goby (synchiropus splendidus)



CREATURES:



5-blood red fire shrimp (lysmata amboinensis)

1-electric blue hermit crab (calcinus elegans)

2-emerald matrix crab (mithrax sculptus)

25-zebra hermit crabs (calcinus laevimanus)

1-red flame serpent starfish (ophioderma rubicundum)

1-tiger serpent starfish (ophiolepsis superba)

30-nassarius snail (nassarius vibex)

15-turbo snails (turbo fluctuosa)



so any thoughts on this list. Good, bad??? And thanks again everyone for the feedback on the last revised list. it lead to this list
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Old 05-04-2005, 04:21 PM   #2
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I like this list better. I've never kept a Regal (get one from the Red Sea, not the Phillipeans) in a reef. Will they nip?

Re: your lineatus wrasse -- should that go in at the beginning, or at the end?
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Old 05-04-2005, 04:49 PM   #3
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That is a lot of fish...

And not enough of a cleanup crew. I have almost 280 snails (100 Certh, 100 Astrea, 70 Narss) in my tank (same size as yours), a FoxFace and Lawnmower blenny and they keep the tank barely clean. And I have only 6 fish in the tank. A few corals and such. Depending on what lighting you are going to have, you will need a lot more snails or expect to be cleaning your glass every day.

Right now as I see it you will have 16 fish in the tank.

(3) Fish get 8 to 12 inches in size alone
(4) fish get at least 4 inches in size

The DottyBack/Flame Angel/FlameBack Angel/Serpent Startfish will probally eat the Clown Gobies and the Twin Spots. (Little fish)

The TwinSpot Gobies are sand sifting gobies and primarily eat fauna that exisits in the sandbed. .5" sandbed will not have a lot of life, nor provide sufficent cover for the twin spots. Mandrin Goby also feeds on the same food as the Twin Spot goby.

That's a lot of Cleaner Shrimp. I have (2) in my tank and it is more than enough.

I have had personal bad experiences with Chromis and their constant nipping the fins of my more expensive/prized fish.

You need a bigger clean up crew than 45 Snails and 26 Hermit crabs.
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Old 05-04-2005, 05:14 PM   #4
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I like this list better. I've never kept a Regal (get one from the Red Sea, not the Phillipeans) in a reef. Will they nip?

Re: your lineatus wrasse -- should that go in at the beginning, or at the end?
yeah the list is staring to look a lot more refined thanks. lots of work though. its on my mind right when i wake up and never really leaves.
learning a lot along the way . the regal angel from what i understand is fairly safe. have heard they may nip at xenia or acropora corals but i seems the nipping ones are in the minority. i think if he does nip i would be willing to stock the corals around him. i am not a big fan of xenia and acropora corals.

the lineatus i think just needs to go in before the orcid dottyback (fridmani pseudochromis). only because the tank will be going for about 8-9mo. with cleaning creatures and the damsels in the sump the tank should be mature enough for him. i think, maybe hummm ideas anyone??
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Old 05-04-2005, 05:35 PM   #5
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You need a bigger clean up crew than 45 Snails and 26 Hermit crabs.[/quote]


your right good eye. i forgot to add 20 red leg hermits and the turbos should have said 25 not 15. might add more snails if needed will stock those as i go. good looking out though thanks.
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Old 05-04-2005, 09:55 PM   #6
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Hlama..

Saw your post on another Website. Glad to see you are considering droping the Twin Spots. They tend to die as they are somewhat hard to keep without a good lively sandbed.
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Saw your post on another Website. Glad to see you are considering droping the Twin Spots. They tend to die as they are somewhat hard to keep without a good lively sandbed.
he has one, two many issues in this tank. have not decided yet for sure but i think it is safe to say that there will be a revised revised revised revised list coming soon. i still want to hear more feedback on this one before rethinking it. i think i am getting close to the finial list here. should have seen the first one. scary. and yup that was me aka hlama.
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