Exotic species in San Francisco Bay:

[greenbean36191]

It's good to know that you have a grasp on this since apparently every biologist/ecologist in the world is fooled into thinking invasive species are a major concern.

[sihaya]

Shortsighted and just plain mistaken thinking like that is what leads us to this panic in the first place.

The world recover from the impact of humans??? What a joke... even if man wiped the surface of the planet clean, life would return in less than 10,000 years... not billions.

This is just wrong...

Stop listening to the sheep and go look for yourself. Go look on how life starts and migrates to every niche in the world. From the volcanic vents at the bottom of the ocean to the nematodes in the middle of Antarctica there is life everywhere.

Do you really think there are a whole lot of people willing to admit that humans have become a plague on this planet? Do you think anyone believing in a "loving, personal" God is going to admit that humans are anything less than the blessed children of the lord... the very beloved prodegy of the heavens for which the world was made?! No, it could never be!

Life on this planet is always migrating, moving, expanding, mutating. Expanding into new environments and evolving until it meets a hospitial area. You give man too much credit.

You simply don't give it enough...

And if you really felt that it was bad that the animals and plants that have migrated (or invaded) the bay or any other non “natural” environment, how come you are not out there pulling up clams, or burning back Kudzu? How come you are not in a boat protesting? How come you are not out there “restoring the natural balance”???

Probably the same reason I'm not out helping teach impoverished children how to read. Or the same reason I'm not out picketing for an end to the war in Iraq. 1) I don't have the time or the motivation 2) I don't think it would make much a difference 3) I'm too lazy 4) I just don't care enough.

But honestly, right now I'm a law student... so the most I can do at this moment in time is do my best to learn the law and perhaps volunteer my time where it matters most when the time comes that I can actually make a difference.

And I'm sure you care about starving children and battered women and a whole lot of other problems you're not currently working to change.

Natural balance is always in change. Too bad some people just don’t get that.

There's a difference between change and total anihilation.

I recycle, I pick up trash on the beach, I clean up when I am hiking and skiing in the mountains, but I also have read, studied, and seen enough to know how the cycle of the world works, and that we are not stewards of this planet, but rather just tenants.

Good for you... but it will never be enough. You can pick up all the trash you want. But where are you going to put it? In a trash can? or recycle bin? Then what? The trash goes to a dump. The recycling plant just turns in into something else that will again become trash (by a process consumes more fossil fuels). It's only until we learn how to stop producing so gosh darn much of it, things are just going to deteriote faster and faster until earth starts to look more and more like Mars.

[icemark]

It's good to know that you have a grasp on this since apparently every biologist/ecologist in the world is fooled into thinking invasive species are a major concern.

I think you have a rather poor grasp on the situation if you believe that.

Only very few professional panic mongers/scam artisits (mostly in America) believe it is an issue (well besides the public that they have conned).

Go look at the "biologists/ecologist" of your choice that is outspoken on the issue and pull up their website and the like. Find out where they get their funding. They get the majority of their funds by causing the panic that you are subscribing too.

But if it was a world wide biologist concern why did that article call out the fact that the Japanese (arguably the ones with the worst possible case with what is happening in Tokyo bay) have so few concerns about it??? Are the Japanese less concerned about the enviroment that the average american??? Or just better informed.

You need to do some research behind what the fear mongers want you to do. At very least please go read Michael Crichton's book "State of Fear", his bibliography in that book has a dozen books and articles that will help you understand.

[icemark]

This is just wrong...

... Okay if you say so. I can not make a man change his religion, I can just inform him of the truth.

Do you really think there are a whole lot of people willing to admit that humans have become a plague on this planet? Do you think anyone believing in a "loving, personal" God is going to admit that humans are anything less than the blessed children of the lord... the very beloved prodegy of the heavens for which the world was made?! No, it could never be!

Hmm, not sure where that is coming from... Not from anything I have posted. I never said (or believe) man was/is a plague...you continually have (in more ways than one).

You simply don't give it enough...

... hmm you were the one posting about how bad humans are and how they will destroy the world {sic}.

Probably the same reason I'm not out helping teach impoverished children how to read. Or the same reason I'm not out picketing for an end to the war in Iraq. 1) I don't have the time or the motivation 2) I don't think it would make much a difference 3) I'm too lazy 4) I just don't care enough.

But honestly, right now I'm a law student... so the most I can do at this moment in time is do my best to learn the law and perhaps volunteer my time where it matters most when the time comes that I can actually make a difference.

And I'm sure you care about starving children and battered women and a whole lot of other problems you're not currently working to change.

hmm I don't think starving children or battered women as an issue of my concern.

There's a difference between change and total anihilation.

I think your definition of total annihilation and mine are obviously rather different.

Good for you... but it will never be enough. You can pick up all the trash you want. But where are you going to put it? In a trash can? or recycle bin? Then what? The trash goes to a dump. The recycling plant just turns in into something else that will again become trash (by a process consumes more fossil fuels). It's only until we learn how to stop producing so gosh darn much of it, things are just going to deteriote faster and faster until earth starts to look more and more like Mars.

Uh... again I can't change a person’s religion... many will believe what they wish, often because they don't know better. I can't fault you for that.