ID needed???

fishguy_8 · 07-23-2001, 04:08 PM

ok i've been looking around on the net and in my books and cant figure out what this thing is....it is deffinitely some sort of gastropod but it has a long ant-eater like snout that is on the anterior end. it wanders my tank in a small shell its been in my tank since as long as i can remember but have yet to solve the mystery. any ideas folks?
Jon

Biomanjcs72 · 07-23-2001, 04:14 PM

Can't say without a Pic, I'd say, take a pic of it and post it on Dr. Ron's site, he'll tell you what it is, but not without a picture, nobodie's going to be able to get any closer than you have. HTH

fishguy_8 · 07-23-2001, 05:28 PM

dont have a digicam and i've tried taking pics of it w/ the regular camera but they always come back w/ just a big blur on the pic.

Biomanjcs72 · 07-23-2001, 06:03 PM

That's tough, I don't have a digicam either: hence Bioman posts no pics. What does its shell look like? is it conical? COuld be a cone snail (poisonous, don't get on the business end of that trunk (proboscis) you'll get shot (really, shot with a cartilage arrow that's poisoned). It won't feel none too good either. but, it could also be a harmless conch, like a queen conch or the like, So, maybe go get audobon's guide to seashore creatures, or someother layman's taxonomic guide (as layman's guides go, Audobon's sucks, IMO) and go from there, you might at least be able to get it down to the family. (THe audobon society makes really easy to use guides, but they are divided based on external morphology, not actual taxonomic criteria, like Phylum, Class, Order, Family, etc.) and they are not really "taxonomic keys" so to speak, just a kind of guide. Rambled a little bit, sorry. Hope you figure out what it is. HTH JCS

***Reefland*** · 07-23-2001, 06:12 PM

Try this link:
http://www.enature.com/guides/select...roup=Seashells

Scott

Biomanjcs72 · 07-23-2001, 06:51 PM

Hey reefland cool site, never seen that one, that should get him close.

fishguy_8 · 07-23-2001, 07:16 PM

went to that site and didnt see anything identical but the shell is like that of a cones.....starting to wonder if i should excavate this guy and send it to someone for a positive ID....i really dont want to leave a poisonous creature in my tank w/ my fish,shrimp,eel and cucumber. wouldnt want any un called for deaths. what do you guys think?
Jon

Biomanjcs72 · 07-24-2001, 10:31 AM

How big is it? I had what I thought was a cone once, but it turned out to be a juve conch. their shells are simiilar in basic structure, if it's pretty small, it may be a conch., If it's more than I'd say aboput an inch or so in shell length, and it still looks like a cone, get it out carefully, and let Dr. ROn ID it for you, maybe even ship it live, so if it's a good critter, he can return it.(If he'll do that, don't know if he will.)

fishguy_8 · 07-24-2001, 12:29 PM

well it is pretty small....less than an inch i'd say. hoping i can ID him before i decide to take him out because i dont really feel like gettin hit by a poisonous cone

but i'm gonna have to do what i gotta do.
Jon

07-23-2001, 04:08 PM	#1
fishguy_8 Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,205	ID needed??? ok i've been looking around on the net and in my books and cant figure out what this thing is....it is deffinitely some sort of gastropod but it has a long ant-eater like snout that is on the anterior end. it wanders my tank in a small shell its been in my tank since as long as i can remember but have yet to solve the mystery. any ideas folks? Jon

07-23-2001, 06:12 PM	#5
*Reefland* Owner Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Bardstown, KY Posts: 13,166	Hi Jon! Try this link: http://www.enature.com/guides/select...roup=Seashells Scott

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07-23-2001, 04:14 PM	#2
Biomanjcs72 Mayor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Birmingham, Al, USA Posts: 815	Can't say without a Pic, I'd say, take a pic of it and post it on Dr. Ron's site, he'll tell you what it is, but not without a picture, nobodie's going to be able to get any closer than you have. HTH

07-23-2001, 05:28 PM	#3
fishguy_8 Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,205	dont have a digicam and i've tried taking pics of it w/ the regular camera but they always come back w/ just a big blur on the pic.

07-23-2001, 06:03 PM	#4
Biomanjcs72 Mayor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Birmingham, Al, USA Posts: 815	That's tough, I don't have a digicam either: hence Bioman posts no pics. What does its shell look like? is it conical? COuld be a cone snail (poisonous, don't get on the business end of that trunk (proboscis) you'll get shot (really, shot with a cartilage arrow that's poisoned). It won't feel none too good either. but, it could also be a harmless conch, like a queen conch or the like, So, maybe go get audobon's guide to seashore creatures, or someother layman's taxonomic guide (as layman's guides go, Audobon's sucks, IMO) and go from there, you might at least be able to get it down to the family. (THe audobon society makes really easy to use guides, but they are divided based on external morphology, not actual taxonomic criteria, like Phylum, Class, Order, Family, etc.) and they are not really "taxonomic keys" so to speak, just a kind of guide. Rambled a little bit, sorry. Hope you figure out what it is. HTH JCS

07-23-2001, 06:51 PM	#6
Biomanjcs72 Mayor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Birmingham, Al, USA Posts: 815	Hey reefland cool site, never seen that one, that should get him close.

07-23-2001, 07:16 PM	#7
fishguy_8 Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,205	went to that site and didnt see anything identical but the shell is like that of a cones.....starting to wonder if i should excavate this guy and send it to someone for a positive ID....i really dont want to leave a poisonous creature in my tank w/ my fish,shrimp,eel and cucumber. wouldnt want any un called for deaths. what do you guys think? Jon

07-24-2001, 10:31 AM	#8
Biomanjcs72 Mayor Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Birmingham, Al, USA Posts: 815	How big is it? I had what I thought was a cone once, but it turned out to be a juve conch. their shells are simiilar in basic structure, if it's pretty small, it may be a conch., If it's more than I'd say aboput an inch or so in shell length, and it still looks like a cone, get it out carefully, and let Dr. ROn ID it for you, maybe even ship it live, so if it's a good critter, he can return it.(If he'll do that, don't know if he will.)

07-24-2001, 12:29 PM	#9
fishguy_8 Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,205	well it is pretty small....less than an inch i'd say. hoping i can ID him before i decide to take him out because i dont really feel like gettin hit by a poisonous cone but i'm gonna have to do what i gotta do. Jon

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