no more waiting! ORDERING PERCS!!!!!

FishKid · 05-06-2001, 04:15 PM

well i quit my job (read my post in general) so i cant afford a 72 gal, but the $250 that i have is being poured into the 30 gal reef. So tonight i am ordering 2 False percula clown fish, 1 cleaner shrimp.. is it too early for starfish? i want to put as many animals in there as possible, within the next two-three weeks, because after that i will have no money at all!!! i gotta save money for RO water. I wanted to order the 2 percs and the shrimp from jason at PA. is flyingfish reliable? what about jeff at exotic fish? as far as fish go? could i add 2 clowns, a shrimp, and two gobys? i may order more hermits, because getting snails would be a stupid move, with hermits already in there... i caught them eating a trocus and a cerith!

could i get 2 percs, and a cleaner shrimp, now, and in 2 weeks, 2 clown gobys and a firefish or cardinal fish??

[This message has been edited by FishKid (edited 05-06-2001).]

Bubafat · 05-06-2001, 05:09 PM

From experience, ffexpress stinks for fish! I personally have never ordered fish from them but i do a lot of combining orders to save shipping costs, and some of the other guys who order with me get fish, and they have like a 50% survival rate.

For the ammount of stuff you are getting, it'd prolly be cheaper to get them at the LFS cause there is no shipping.

If you are gonna go MO, I would suggest PA (premium aquatics), they have a great track record and are very customer oriented.

Buba

BTW- Go true perc's, better color. Make sure whatever way you go, get CAPTIVE BRED!!! There is no reason not to.

FishKid · 05-07-2001, 03:19 PM

what else can i put in the tank? im putting together my birthday wish list... 2 true percs (i decided i would get true instead of false), 1 cleaner shrimp (would it be better to get a skunk since i already have one? or a blood cleaner shrimp to mix things up?) 1 blue banded hermit (cant resist!) what else can go in?

Bubafat · 05-07-2001, 09:45 PM

Be careful with all the fish. I wouldn't stock that size of a tank with more then a pair of perc's and maybe a gobie or two (fish wise at least). What else do you have in the tank? Since you said you have a cleaner (what the heck is a skunk shrimp?) i wouldn't suggest getting any more shrimp as they tend to be territorial and may decide to kill each other.

DON'T for gods sake get any hermits. Hermits are the devil and will eat any snail, clam or tasty coral it finds.

What do you have for lighting? Just wondering, as its better to spend your money on corals as it is harder to overstock a tank with corals while it is VERY easy to overstock with fishes.

How long has the tank been set up? whats in it? Basic info like that would be helpful.

Buba

albee1947 · 05-08-2001, 05:05 AM

How are you going to save for the RO unit if you quit your job. I would put in this tank, The 2 clowns, Two triggeres. two tangs, two lions and a shark. with as many posts as you have you should not have to ask a question such as this, If you still don't know the answer than i think you need to make that tank a reptile tank. Put as many fish as possible in such a short while, exactly what are you going to accomplish except kill everything.....

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Come see my new Web Site!

G · 05-08-2001, 07:31 AM

Hey Fishkid,
I would definitely not go much more than adding a more fish (perhaps a goby) to the pair of percs. A cleaner shrimp would also be o.k.[img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

p.s. just remember contrary to what other people say, the only stupid question is a question that is not asked. That is what this board is all about. Even the most experienced people have questions. We all continuously learn new things! ..Gary [img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

Sker · 05-08-2001, 07:42 AM

Bubafat, I disagree I have nothing but a positive experience with FFexpress. I have ordered numerous fish, shrimp,and anemones from them and all have thrived in my tanks. People, lighten up on the kid we all get a little anxious to put livestock in our tanks!

Sker

Reinhold · 05-08-2001, 07:49 AM

albee:

1) Nice website.

2) Nice tanks in a nice room.

3) Rude response to Fishkid.I hope I'm still allowed to ask a question when I grow up to be an expert or an engineer (the two aren't synonymous.) Be nice to people who are just trying to learn and make wise decisions, rather than watching their mistakes die.

G · 05-08-2001, 07:50 AM

Sker,
your point is well taken![img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

albee1947 · 05-08-2001, 08:23 AM

Was not meant to be rude, Not the first time for fishkid. he's been doing this for a while. has well over the amount of posts on multiple boards. He should know by now what is the proper amount of livestock.

Bubafat · 05-08-2001, 10:06 AM

Sometimes one just wants a second opinion, I've been keeping reefs for over 5 years, yet its nice to have a second opinion. There is no cold set rule on how many fish to put in a tank, so lay off the kid, people like you who start flames, take your fire elsewhere.

Sker-Good to hear that you've had good experience with ffexpress.

Buba

albee1947 · 05-08-2001, 10:55 AM

I'll stay here. And there are basic rules for keeping fish. #of gallons per " of fish. Contrary to whay you believe there are guidelines.

Rin · 05-08-2001, 11:38 AM

Albee,

Fishkid is just being an exuberant youth. I say let him have fun. He'll be an upstanding adult someday with the thoughtful restraint that most adults are expected to have.

Besides, flaming a 14 year-old? What's up with that?

Fishkid,

Go easy, get a just a couple of fish for now. You're going to need the balance of that money to pay for maintenance. Mow a few lawns--then go wild.

------------------
-Todd
'Only the corrupted can recognize true innocence for what it is.'

albee1947 · 05-08-2001, 11:43 AM

As per his profile

!08-14-2000
Status: Mayor
Total Posts: 868
Current Email: aquatic1@optonline.com
Homepage: http://www.IDONTHAVEAHOMEPAGEYET.Com
Occupation: Magic Isle Pets employee (In other words i get paid for doing what i like to do.)
Tank & Equipment: Fresh water setup = 29 gal
My Moms Tank = 35 gal hex with 3 angels and 3 million tetra

salt water setup = 30 gal 45# of Fiji LR, CPR 2R skimmer,

72 gal AGA bow front=cant decide what to use it for...

Livestock: 30 gal reef setup--
45 lbs Fiji LR
5 Paguristes cadenati (scarlet reef hermit)
5 Calcinus seurati black & white haw. hermits
10 Cerithium stercusmuscarum (cerith snails)
20 nassarius sp.
5 Tectus fenestratus (trocus snails)
1 Lysmata amboinensis (skunk cleaner shrimp)

hitchhiker polyps
dozens of mushrooms
hitchhiker feather duster (red crown)
29 gal = to be snake tank ( Irian Jaya carpet python

Experience in the hobby: i work at an LFS, so i got an hands on experience, before i owned a reef!
Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA
Interests: THE HOBBY football lifting weights
ICQ Number:

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Where Oh where does it say 14 years old?????

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chromis · 05-08-2001, 12:09 PM

Getting back on SUBJECT, I think you could have more then 2 percs and a goby but thats my opinion. Add the percs now wait a month or two and add a pair of firefish. Overstocked? Not in my opinion.
Andrew

Reinhold · 05-08-2001, 12:09 PM

albee:

If you are so familiar with Fishkid's postings on other boards, then you know he is 14 years old.

I am aware of 5 or 6 different "formulas" for stocking fish in a tank, and my years of FO experience have taught me that whatever works in your tank with your fish is right for you. I've followed the rules for stocking in the past and watched as "compatible" fish have slaughtered each other, and I've kept 8 large (4-6") fish in a 55 for years with no disease or nitrates.

As far as fighting with a 14 year old kid who loves the marine hobby, think about how you were at 14. I'm guessing your weren't as rigid or as knowledgeable as you are now as an adult. Find someone your own size to pick on. I enjoy his enthusiasm.

Rin · 05-08-2001, 12:14 PM

I thought I might elicit a response...

My apologies, Albee, based on your responses above, I thought you were well versed in Fishkid's business--on this board and apparently others that he frequents. He has stated more than once what his actual age is.

But then, it is just a forum. Who really knows the truth about anyone...eh?

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-Todd
'Only the corrupted can recognize true innocence for what it is.'

FishKid · 05-08-2001, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Was not ment to be rude, Not the first time for fishkid. he's been doing this for a while. has well over the amount of posts on multiple boards. He should know by now what is the proper amount of livestock.

first off, i've asked several times, because everytime i get different answers, this is the only board i frequent, albeit that i have memberships elsewhere. And besides what the hell do you care?

Quote:

he's been doing this for a while

you say that like im breaking a law.

[This message has been edited by FishKid (edited 05-08-2001).]

FishKid · 05-08-2001, 01:06 PM

oh yeah albee, im a 35 year old man! [img]/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img]

J@CK@SS!!!

Rin · 05-08-2001, 02:19 PM

[img]/ubb/wink.gif[/img]

Hey!!! Fishkid, what's wrong with being a 35 year-old man? I'm hurt.

------------------
-Todd
'Only the corrupted can recognize true innocence for what it is.'

05-06-2001, 04:15 PM	#1
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	no more waiting! ORDERING PERCS!!!!! well i quit my job (read my post in general) so i cant afford a 72 gal, but the $250 that i have is being poured into the 30 gal reef. So tonight i am ordering 2 False percula clown fish, 1 cleaner shrimp.. is it too early for starfish? i want to put as many animals in there as possible, within the next two-three weeks, because after that i will have no money at all!!! i gotta save money for RO water. I wanted to order the 2 percs and the shrimp from jason at PA. is flyingfish reliable? what about jeff at exotic fish? as far as fish go? could i add 2 clowns, a shrimp, and two gobys? i may order more hermits, because getting snails would be a stupid move, with hermits already in there... i caught them eating a trocus and a cerith! could i get 2 percs, and a cleaner shrimp, now, and in 2 weeks, 2 clown gobys and a firefish or cardinal fish?? [This message has been edited by FishKid (edited 05-06-2001).]

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05-06-2001, 05:09 PM	#2
Bubafat Tenant Join Date: May 2001 Location: MN: To damn cold to reef here Posts: 52	From experience, ffexpress stinks for fish! I personally have never ordered fish from them but i do a lot of combining orders to save shipping costs, and some of the other guys who order with me get fish, and they have like a 50% survival rate. For the ammount of stuff you are getting, it'd prolly be cheaper to get them at the LFS cause there is no shipping. If you are gonna go MO, I would suggest PA (premium aquatics), they have a great track record and are very customer oriented. Buba BTW- Go true perc's, better color. Make sure whatever way you go, get CAPTIVE BRED!!! There is no reason not to.

05-07-2001, 03:19 PM	#3
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	what else can i put in the tank? im putting together my birthday wish list... 2 true percs (i decided i would get true instead of false), 1 cleaner shrimp (would it be better to get a skunk since i already have one? or a blood cleaner shrimp to mix things up?) 1 blue banded hermit (cant resist!) what else can go in?

05-07-2001, 09:45 PM	#4
Bubafat Tenant Join Date: May 2001 Location: MN: To damn cold to reef here Posts: 52	Be careful with all the fish. I wouldn't stock that size of a tank with more then a pair of perc's and maybe a gobie or two (fish wise at least). What else do you have in the tank? Since you said you have a cleaner (what the heck is a skunk shrimp?) i wouldn't suggest getting any more shrimp as they tend to be territorial and may decide to kill each other. DON'T for gods sake get any hermits. Hermits are the devil and will eat any snail, clam or tasty coral it finds. What do you have for lighting? Just wondering, as its better to spend your money on corals as it is harder to overstock a tank with corals while it is VERY easy to overstock with fishes. How long has the tank been set up? whats in it? Basic info like that would be helpful. Buba

05-08-2001, 05:05 AM	#5
albee1947 Banned Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Plantation, Florida Posts: 130	How are you going to save for the RO unit if you quit your job. I would put in this tank, The 2 clowns, Two triggeres. two tangs, two lions and a shark. with as many posts as you have you should not have to ask a question such as this, If you still don't know the answer than i think you need to make that tank a reptile tank. Put as many fish as possible in such a short while, exactly what are you going to accomplish except kill everything..... ------------------ HHeeeerrrrrsss ALBEE Come see my new Web Site!

05-08-2001, 07:31 AM	#6
G Citizen Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: So. Cal., USC Country Posts: 249	Hey Fishkid, I would definitely not go much more than adding a more fish (perhaps a goby) to the pair of percs. A cleaner shrimp would also be o.k.[img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img] p.s. just remember contrary to what other people say, the only stupid question is a question that is not asked. That is what this board is all about. Even the most experienced people have questions. We all continuously learn new things! ..Gary [img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

05-08-2001, 07:42 AM	#7
Sker Citizen Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Omaha, NE , USA Posts: 210	Bubafat, I disagree I have nothing but a positive experience with FFexpress. I have ordered numerous fish, shrimp,and anemones from them and all have thrived in my tanks. People, lighten up on the kid we all get a little anxious to put livestock in our tanks! Sker

05-08-2001, 07:49 AM	#8
Reinhold Mayor Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 941	albee: 1) Nice website. 2) Nice tanks in a nice room. 3) Rude response to Fishkid.I hope I'm still allowed to ask a question when I grow up to be an expert or an engineer (the two aren't synonymous.) Be nice to people who are just trying to learn and make wise decisions, rather than watching their mistakes die.

05-08-2001, 07:50 AM	#9
G Citizen Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: So. Cal., USC Country Posts: 249	Sker, your point is well taken![img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

05-08-2001, 08:23 AM	#10
albee1947 Banned Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Plantation, Florida Posts: 130	Was not meant to be rude, Not the first time for fishkid. he's been doing this for a while. has well over the amount of posts on multiple boards. He should know by now what is the proper amount of livestock.

05-08-2001, 10:06 AM	#11
Bubafat Tenant Join Date: May 2001 Location: MN: To damn cold to reef here Posts: 52	Sometimes one just wants a second opinion, I've been keeping reefs for over 5 years, yet its nice to have a second opinion. There is no cold set rule on how many fish to put in a tank, so lay off the kid, people like you who start flames, take your fire elsewhere. Sker-Good to hear that you've had good experience with ffexpress. Buba

05-08-2001, 10:55 AM	#12
albee1947 Banned Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Plantation, Florida Posts: 130	I'll stay here. And there are basic rules for keeping fish. #of gallons per " of fish. Contrary to whay you believe there are guidelines.

05-08-2001, 11:38 AM	#13
Rin Mayor Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 774	Albee, Fishkid is just being an exuberant youth. I say let him have fun. He'll be an upstanding adult someday with the thoughtful restraint that most adults are expected to have. Besides, flaming a 14 year-old? What's up with that? Fishkid, Go easy, get a just a couple of fish for now. You're going to need the balance of that money to pay for maintenance. Mow a few lawns--then go wild. ------------------ -Todd 'Only the corrupted can recognize true innocence for what it is.'

05-08-2001, 11:43 AM	#14
albee1947 Banned Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Plantation, Florida Posts: 130	As per his profile !08-14-2000 Status: Mayor Total Posts: 868 Current Email: aquatic1@optonline.com Homepage: http://www.IDONTHAVEAHOMEPAGEYET.Com Occupation: Magic Isle Pets employee (In other words i get paid for doing what i like to do.) Tank & Equipment: Fresh water setup = 29 gal My Moms Tank = 35 gal hex with 3 angels and 3 million tetra salt water setup = 30 gal 45# of Fiji LR, CPR 2R skimmer, 72 gal AGA bow front=cant decide what to use it for... Livestock: 30 gal reef setup-- 45 lbs Fiji LR 5 Paguristes cadenati (scarlet reef hermit) 5 Calcinus seurati black & white haw. hermits 10 Cerithium stercusmuscarum (cerith snails) 20 nassarius sp. 5 Tectus fenestratus (trocus snails) 1 Lysmata amboinensis (skunk cleaner shrimp) hitchhiker polyps dozens of mushrooms hitchhiker feather duster (red crown) 29 gal = to be snake tank ( Irian Jaya carpet python Experience in the hobby: i work at an LFS, so i got an hands on experience, before i owned a reef! Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Interests: THE HOBBY football lifting weights ICQ Number: © 2000-2001, Reefland Powered by: Ultimate Bulletin Board © Infopop Corporation (formerly Madrona Park, Inc.), 1998-2000. Where Oh where does it say 14 years old????? [This message has been edited by albee1947 (edited 05-08-2001).]

05-08-2001, 12:09 PM	#15
chromis Mayor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lynchburg, Virginia Posts: 518	Getting back on SUBJECT, I think you could have more then 2 percs and a goby but thats my opinion. Add the percs now wait a month or two and add a pair of firefish. Overstocked? Not in my opinion. Andrew

05-08-2001, 12:14 PM	#17
Rin Mayor Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 774	I thought I might elicit a response... My apologies, Albee, based on your responses above, I thought you were well versed in Fishkid's business--on this board and apparently others that he frequents. He has stated more than once what his actual age is. But then, it is just a forum. Who really knows the truth about anyone...eh? ------------------ -Todd 'Only the corrupted can recognize true innocence for what it is.'

05-08-2001, 01:06 PM	#19
FishKid Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Holbrook, NewYork, USA Posts: 1,799	oh yeah albee, im a 35 year old man! [img]/ubb/rolleyes.gif[/img] J@CK@SS!!!

05-08-2001, 02:19 PM	#20
Rin Mayor Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 774	[img]/ubb/wink.gif[/img] Hey!!! Fishkid, what's wrong with being a 35 year-old man? I'm hurt. ------------------ -Todd 'Only the corrupted can recognize true innocence for what it is.'

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