180 gallon fish stocking list.

[sneakerpimp]

The tanks a 72 x 24 x 24 180 gallon with a 75g or 90g sump/refugium.

I'm looking for advice on which fish I should cut from the list and also cool fish that I could add.

Tangs:

Blue tang


Powder Blue Tang


Sailfin Tang

Dwarf Angels:

Flame Angelfish


Bellus Angelfish


Basslets:

Chalk Basslet


Marine Beta


Blennies:

Scooter Blenny



Banggai Cardinalfish - 8



Black Ocellaris Clownfish - pair


Green Chromis - 8


blue Chromis - 4



Firefish - 2


Green Mandarin Dragonet - pair


Spotted Dragonet


Gobies:
Green Clown Goby


Orange Stripe Prawn Goby


Flaming Prawn Goby


Falco Hawkfish


Blue Spot Jawfish

Foxface Rabbitfish

Wrasses:

McCosker's Flasher Wrasse


Christmas Wrasse


Niger Triggerfish(love the fish, but not sure if it will go well with the tank.)


Flashlight Fish - 3

[rluix]

I Would def. recommend not to mix 2 different pairs of clownfish, but in that size tank it might just work.
I would also recommend not to put in mandarins untill the tank has been runing for at least 6 months, and Mandarins need tons of live rock, or they'll starve to death.
The trigger doesn't look very reef safe, make sure to research those fish's.

Edit: I now know that the trigger fish is not a good idea, they are not reef safe.

[vio]

are you building a reef or a FOWL?

[metalhead]

I would nix the angels and the trigger if you're planning on keeping corals. It's always a crap shoot when you add angels to a reef, some do fine others cause major problems, not woth the risk imo. Also, pick one wrasse, maybe two, they will compete with the mandarins for food so I would not recommend mixing them. Also hold off on the blennies until you have a healthy algae population. Not sure about the beta either, you'll want to research there. Also know that the chromis' will require an auto-feeder unless your there every day to feed them 3 to 4 times. One more thing... there's a two-tang limit for a six foot tank, the foxface will get fairly large as well. Good luck!!!

[sneakerpimp]

are you building a reef or a FOWL?

Mainly FOWLR, but with a few soft corals.

[rluix]

Mainly FOWLR, but with a few soft corals.

If you will have any coral, then its not FOWLR anymore, its a Reef, as FOWLR stands for Fish only with live rock.

[vio]

check this out on the marine betta Marine Betta

awesome looking fish. My LFS carries them on occasion and they look incredible. largely predatory though.

and the falco hawks love to eat invertebrates be it crabs, snails, shrimp. My dad just took his out of his tank. it ripped into new hermits as soon as they hit the sand. also was eating nassarius snails of decent size.

i guess if your putting a trigger into the tank the hawk fish wont make even the slightest difference though. Triggers eat everything clean up crew.

the flame and coral beauty angel from all i have heard are reef safe with caution but it doesnt sound to me like you will be adding much coral.

check out the desjardinni (spelling) sailfin tang. amazing looking fish. could be a dominant display feature in a tank that size.

post pictures when your up and running.

[sfreefer]

I Would def. recommend not to mix 2 different pairs of clownfish, but in that size tank it might just work.
I would also recommend not to put in mandarins untill the tank has been runing for at least 6 months, and Mandarins need tons of live rock, or they'll starve to death.
The trigger doesn't look very reef safe, make sure to research those fish's.

Edit: I now know that the trigger fish is not a good idea, they are not reef safe.

What a genius advised from an expert reefer. Excellent!!!

[Steve McKay]

What a genius advised from an expert reefer. Excellent!!!

This post is good advice.


Originally Posted by rluix
I Would def. recommend not to mix 2 different pairs of clownfish, but in that size tank it might just work.
I would also recommend not to put in mandarins untill the tank has been runing for at least 6 months, and Mandarins need tons of live rock, or they'll starve to death.
The trigger doesn't look very reef safe, make sure to research those fish's.
Edit: I now know that the trigger fish is not a good idea, they are not reef safe.

This is what McKay believes.

1. Unless a tank is big enough it is not recommended to mix clowns.

2. You need plenty of LR for pods, most mandarins only eat pods.

3. Triggers and puffers are not reef safe, reef safe meaning all items usually found in a reef tank.

[sneakerpimp]

Although the marine beta is a predator, I don't think he will get big enough to eat any of the tank mates on the list.

[gregr]

Smart to ask first and not plop em all in there and see what happens Also, lots of awesome selections. Here's my take on the tangs-- choose one. The Achilles have a terrible record of survival in captivity. The Powder Blue and Des Jardinis are my favorites. The Powder Blue is more prone to ich and more dominating- the Des Jardini has a reputation as being one of the less aggressive tangs. They all grow fast.
You heard about the angels- every one I've ever had eventually nipped at corals and clams (Flame, Coral Beauty, Bi-color).
Never kept a basselet but I love the Marine Beta. They're really shy and hide most of the time based on the ones I've seen in friends tanks.
Of the other fish choices- jawfish and flasher wrasses will jump- you've been warned

[rluix]

What a genius advised from an expert reefer. Excellent!!!

Go ahead and put em all and see what happens, i mean, you don't need to listen to others acording to you, so why hunt every post trying to get revenge? you don't need to listen ( even tought forums are for that ) and i don't feel like replying to all your raging posts because you think you dont need help. Im only here to help other's , you might not want advice , but other's want, not everyone likes to see fish suffering. Please don't start a fight, this thread doesn't need to suffer at your own selfish costs. He wants advice.

[julesjt]

Go ahead and put em all and see what happens, i mean, you don't need to listen to others acording to you, so why hunt every post trying to get revenge? you don't need to listen ( even tought forums are for that ) and i don't feel like replying to all your raging posts because you think you dont need help. Im only here to help other's , you might not want advice , but other's want, not everyone likes to see fish suffering. Please don't start a fight, this thread doesn't need to suffer at your own selfish costs. He wants advice.

Seriously why would you just put them in and see what happens. If the details about a fish state it is not reef friendly, than why take the chance of getting expensive corals destroyed?

I see you were giving sound advice in the beginning and now you are going back to being against giving advice.

I remembered I had a puffer in my ****ty 55 gallon 8 years ago that was a horrible salt water setup. Anyway I decided to get some feather dusters and the next day they were all gone because the puffer ate them all. If you read the details on a puffer it states they are not reef friendly. I wouldnt put one in my 180 gallon setup now because I know they will eat things I dont want them to.

So your original advice was cool, but now saying put them all in and see what happens can end up in disaster if he wants a reef tank.

P.S. How is your tank coming, I remembered you with your forum battles on your thread. Pretty funny

[Steve McKay]

Seriously why would you just put them in and see what happens. If the details about a fish state it is not reef friendly, than why take the chance of getting expensive corals destroyed?

I see you were giving sound advice in the beginning and now you are going back to being against giving advice.

I remembered I had a puffer in my ****ty 55 gallon 8 years ago that was a horrible salt water setup. Anyway I decided to get some feather dusters and the next day they were all gone because the puffer ate them all. If you read the details on a puffer it states they are not reef friendly. I wouldnt put one in my 180 gallon setup now because I know they will eat things I dont want them to.

So your original advice was cool, but now saying put them all in and see what happens can end up in disaster if he wants a reef tank.

P.S. How is your tank coming, I remembered you with your forum battles on your thread. Pretty funny

julesjt, you have got to read these posts better. rluix is referring to sfreefer and his not so good advice. sfreefer has been following certain people from post to post bad mouthing them and there good advice. Soon people will come to know this and just ignore him.

[julesjt]

julesjt, you have got to read these posts better. rluix is referring to sfreefer and his not so good advice. sfreefer has been following certain people from post to post bad mouthing them and there good advice. Soon people will come to know this and just ignore him.

I apologize, and you are right, I need to read these better.

Thanks for pointing that out Steve, I can always count on you to point out my mistakes.

[Steve McKay]

I apologize, and you are right, I need to read these better.

Thanks for pointing that out Steve, I can always count on you to point out my mistakes.

It's not that I hope, just trying to make sure nobody make a mistake if we all look out for each other hopefully we won't make to many. And I wanted to clarify the problem that some of us have about sfreefer without exterraneous comments which might ruin a post.

[TheMarineGuy]

That Falco Hawkfish will eat all the gobys...on at the LFS has been their for almost a year in its own tank because he likes ANY fish that comes in his tank....not a good idea for a reef tank