mushroom coral detaching from liverock

[jarman88]

hey guys, ive just put my first piece of coral in my 6month mature tank, the mushrooms are always open fully and look very pretty. after a week a few have detached from the rock and are now in diff areas but still unnatached and still looking very healthy. all my levels are perfect apart from my salt level which is currently 1.04 and slowly coming down. would this be a cause and will my coral die? how do i stop it from happening??

[Reefing Madness]

WOW. I would say your salinity level is the reason, yes. It should be 1.025-1.026. Your reading is way to high. To bring it down, you'll have to take out some water and fill with RO/DI, or what ever water your using. No Salt.

[chrisfont23]

Hey, how did you let it get that high in the first place? Just asking...

[Reefing Madness]

Hey, how did you let it get that high in the first place? Just asking...

Possible top offs with saltwater would be my guess.

[leebca]

You need to post this in the Reef Forum where they know more about invertebrates. Good luck!

[Reefing Madness]

You need to post this in the Reef Forum where they know more about invertebrates. Good luck!

Your kidding me right Lee. Who is they? And please tell me you can't take a stab at this just because its not in the right forum? Your killing me man. Do me a favor and just read the thread. Take a stab at it, and tell us that 1.040 salinity is not a problem with a saltwater tank............Really!!

[leebca]

Reffer Madness,

I have no idea the limitation of what any kind of coral can handle. I have never kept corals. I don't take 'stabs' with the lives of marine life. Jaman needs someone who is knowledge about these sorts of things. If 'they' can't be found in Reefland, then he has to post in a place with people who have this knowledge. I certainly don't.

If I try to respond, I would be wasted his time -- time he should be spending trying to find someone who actually has the answers -- and only further endanger the life of the organism he is trying to save.

[chrisfont23]

Your kidding me right Lee. Who is they? And please tell me you can't take a stab at this just because its not in the right forum? Your killing me man. Do me a favor and just read the thread. Take a stab at it, and tell us that 1.040 salinity is not a problem with a saltwater tank............Really!!

Lee's a FOWLR guy. No corals! The tank either has major league salt creep or poor top off practice - or both. I don't even think my refractometer goes up that high.

[Zach]

Guys,

Let's give Lee a break, yeah? He's right, this is the "Marine Fish" forum and Lee is a marine fish specialist.

Moving this thread to the reef section...

[chrisfont23]

I tried. On that note, when was the last time some of these mods/forum owners were on. Might be time to shuffle it up a bit

[Reefing Madness]

Guys,

Let's give Lee a break, yeah? He's right, this is the "Marine Fish" forum and Lee is a marine fish specialist.

Moving this thread to the reef section...

Marine Specialist. Since when is 1.040 acceptable in any marine life aquarium??

[Reefing Madness]

I tried. On that note, when was the last time some of these mods/forum owners were on. Might be time to shuffle it up a bit

If he can't take a stab at 1.040 being wrong in the tank.........Really????? I'm with Chris. If a fish wou'dnt react well in that water, and corals are more delecate.......????Hmmm, lemme see.......
No offense to anyone, but I have had to send Lee a link the thread, on a question about disease. He won't wonder out of that section. But when I get on, I push the button that says NEW POSTS, and read through them.......And tells people to post in the correct Forum. But why is that needed when there are only 3-4 of us answering posted questions?? And we know how to use the New Post button. Very unprofessional if you ask me, to tell someone to post it in another forum to get it answered, when there are already a few answers in there for them.

[bignige102]

If he can't take a stab at 1.040 being wrong in the tank.........Really????? I'm with Chris. If a fish wou'dnt react well in that water, and corals are more delecate.......????Hmmm, lemme see.......
No offense to anyone, but I have had to send Lee a link the thread, on a question about disease. He won't wonder out of that section. But when I get on, I push the button that says NEW POSTS, and read through them.......And tells people to post in the correct Forum. But why is that needed when there are only 3-4 of us answering posted questions?? And we know how to use the New Post button. Very unprofessional if you ask me, to tell someone to post it in another forum to get it answered, when there are already a few answers in there for them.

I am new to this forum and I am trying to read as much as I can to avoid asking questions, BUT, I would be horrified if I had a question and it wasn't answered because I had posted it in the wrong section of the forum. Some of you guys have so much more knowledge than most of us and it is good of you to share as much as you do but surely you would not ignore a plea for help because it is not posted in the right place??!!

Nigel

[chrisfont23]

Nigel, let me try to post an answer to this thread. First off, I have been on this board for about a year and there is a ton of good advice. Stick with it. Folks who have been around - like Twisted, OriginalFin (where are you), Reefing Madness, Kmoriarty, KevinPo, Chavez and Foco Master Tech - have helped me immensely with my setups. They are all very knowledgeable. Lee has also helped me a ton, but if you read his bio, he is a fish guy. Kind of like being a PC guy and knowing nothing about how a Mac works. So he's got the inside track on fish health, disease etc., while a lot of other folks have more in depth knowledge on corals and inverts. Unfortunately though, I don't know if anyone really knows what the deal is without understanding the basics - how do you measure, top off, what is your routine etc., - which would better address your situation. Since viewing habits may be like Reefing Madness (and mine) or like Lee's it might help for next time, to post to the relevant forum topic - but no big deal.

In the meantime, see if you can recall or list:

- routine (water change frequency, last time salinity measured correctly), checmical additives etc.
- what: type of salt, type of water (tap,. well, RO, RO/DI etc.)
- how: do you top off, much do you feed, often do you test
- other measures: Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate, Phosphate, etc.

It would seem like you are one of intense salt creep or poor top off but I wouldn't know without more detail, as I listed above. For all I know your tank is by a window next to the cracker factory and the salt from the crackers is causing the problem.

We're here to (and trying to) help.

[Reefing Madness]

I am new to this forum and I am trying to read as much as I can to avoid asking questions, BUT, I would be horrified if I had a question and it wasn't answered because I had posted it in the wrong section of the forum. Some of you guys have so much more knowledge than most of us and it is good of you to share as much as you do but surely you would not ignore a plea for help because it is not posted in the right place??!!

Nigel

I answer everything that I can, no matter where it is posted. If I know of a better person to answer it, I will send them the post link in a message.

[Housen]

Im sorry you got caught up in the drama Nigel. Actually, you first need to know that Lee is a real knowledgeable person: Bio - Lee (a.k.a. leebca) He does have your best interest at heart.Yes, you did state that your salinity was high, but I read your post that you also have two other questions, which Lee is not qualitifed to answer. You asked if this salinityw as bad for the coral and you were concerned about it dieing. You also asked how to save the coral. These two things Lee doesn't pretend to know.There are many forums within reefland and you originally posted in the forum for fish. Lee doesn't move posts. Most people who look at Lee's forums are looking for info on keeping marine fish. To get you to the right people with the right answers you want to either go to the reef forum or find another place to get advice. This shouldn't be hard to understand Nigel. We tend to look at specific places here for specific information and Lee was letting you know this. If visitors have linited time i would assume they go to the places they have interest and knowledge, or need info from.Now, i have had corals in the past, but not now. The higher salinity is okay for some corals, especially those that come from estuaries and areas cut off from the sea, except at certain tide and water levels. Corals can experience many different conditions and survive quite well, despite their sensitive reputation. Most mushroom corals are fairly hearty and good for beginners. They are usually harvested from tropical waters in normal salinity and ocean conditions, or made from different ways of cutting or dividing in normal saltwater tanks, under usual conditions.The high salinity can be a problem for them, but not always. It depends how it got there. If it was a shock or sudden increase in salinity, then they are in trouble. If it drifted to that high level over time, they can very well have adapted to it to some degree and are fine. You don't say how your salinity got that high nor how fast it went there. You want to reduce the salinity, slowly, over time into the normal range. You are doing this from what i can read from your post. I doont think this is your problem though. The corals shouldn't be acting like this, even from a salinity problem. There is most likely something else wrong with the water or conditions. I want to reiterate though, that Lee would not likely know the above. If he did, he would share it with you. I however do visit this reef forum and can and did reply. I haven't been to Lees forums for quite some time though. Posting here was the best you could do in rl at least. Happy reefing!

[chrisfont23]

Most mushroom corals are fairly hearty and good for beginners.

True. That is until you introduce them to conditions normally found in the Dead Sea.

The high salinity can be a problem for them, but not always.

Nothing will survive for long in a salinity of 1.040. If you are curious, Google polyp bailout.

You want to reduce the salinity, slowly, over time into the normal range.

Get it to normal levels as soon as possible. This is bad advice.

I doont think this is your problem though. The corals shouldn't be acting like this, even from a salinity problem.

Sorry dude. Bad advice again. Google 'polyp bailout' or read a few excerpts of having corals at a salinity of this level. Also, there is one 'o' in don't.

See - this is why Lee didn't respond.

[Reefing Madness]

True. That is until you introduce them to conditions normally found in the Dead Sea.


Nothing will survive for long in a salinity of 1.040. If you are curious, Google polyp bailout.


Get it to normal levels as soon as possible. This is bad advice.


Sorry dude. Bad advice again. Google 'polyp bailout' or read a few excerpts of having corals at a salinity of this level. Also, there is one 'o' in don't.

See - this is why Lee didn't respond.

Going to have to concur with Chris on this one. My initial post was right on the money.

[bignige102]

Hi Guys,

A bit of confusion here, Jarman is the original thread starter with the salt problems. My system is not yet set up and I was saying that I am in the process of reading as many posts as I can to avoid repeating previous questions but, would be dissapointed if I posted a question and did not receive a response because it was in the wrong section/forum. It was not my intention to upset anyone and I certainly appreciate how helpful you guys will be to me in the future.

Regards

Nigel