Bioball

Mikeman · 05-27-2001, 11:08 PM

I really haven't kept up on whats wrong with bioball, but I though I should finally ask why ppl don't use it. I currently have it in my bakpak skimmer, if I do take it out what should I replace it with? I was thinking of installing a light it it and making a mini refugium? So what should I do?

just to make sure bioball is the blue stringy stuff isn't it? and if not then I'm really going to be embarresed

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Mikeman

Heros are like muffins when things get hot, they rise to the top.

Elmo18 · 05-27-2001, 11:18 PM

Mikeman,

I don't have the BakPak, but is it BioBalls?? or Biobale insert inside the skimmer??

I know there is a biobale in the first line of CPR BakPaks.

Bioballs help turn ammonia, to nitrate, but then also to nitrate and tend to keep them high. It will work for fish only in my opinion. My old 80 gallon acrylic was fish only, and it had a bioball system/ sump.

Regards,
Ilham

Mikeman · 05-27-2001, 11:33 PM

it might be biobale, does it do the same thing?

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Mikeman

Heros are like muffins when things get hot, they rise to the top.

Neal359 · 05-27-2001, 11:43 PM

same thing lots of people are using a large deep sand bed to do much of their biological filtration because to produses little to no nitrates. but you do become limited to the amount of fish you can put in the tank most people who are doing this have reef tanks that are realy into keeping coral and inverst and having a few fish

Rin · 05-28-2001, 08:55 PM

I think the Biobale in your skimmer has two functions. The first is to provide a home for the bacteria to covert NH3->NO2->NO3. The second is a debubbler. I think if you remove the entire bale from the skimmer, you may find more bubbles in your main tank. You'll probably have to strike a balance between bubbles and a nitrate factory.

Good luck.

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-Todd
'There're only 3 types of people in the world: Those who can count and those who can't'

stang69 · 05-29-2001, 12:04 AM

When I removed mine I actually had less bubbles in the tank.

Jeff

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What came first the fish or the egg?

jsaltzgi · 05-29-2001, 02:11 PM

A "biologocal" filter such as bioballs, or biobale for that matter can only produce as much nitrate as introduced into the system as amonia or nitrite. Thus if you do not overcrowd and overfeed, you will not have a so-called nitrate factory. You will not, however have the anaerobic conditions necessary for nitrification, whereby nitrates are converted into nitrogen gas.

05-27-2001, 11:08 PM	#1
Mikeman Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Watertown,SD,USA Posts: 1,502	Bioball I really haven't kept up on whats wrong with bioball, but I though I should finally ask why ppl don't use it. I currently have it in my bakpak skimmer, if I do take it out what should I replace it with? I was thinking of installing a light it it and making a mini refugium? So what should I do? just to make sure bioball is the blue stringy stuff isn't it? and if not then I'm really going to be embarresed ------------------ Mikeman Heros are like muffins when things get hot, they rise to the top.

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05-27-2001, 11:18 PM	#2
Elmo18 Governor Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,514	Mikeman, I don't have the BakPak, but is it BioBalls?? or Biobale insert inside the skimmer?? I know there is a biobale in the first line of CPR BakPaks. Bioballs help turn ammonia, to nitrate, but then also to nitrate and tend to keep them high. It will work for fish only in my opinion. My old 80 gallon acrylic was fish only, and it had a bioball system/ sump. Regards, Ilham

05-27-2001, 11:33 PM	#3
Mikeman Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Watertown,SD,USA Posts: 1,502	it might be biobale, does it do the same thing? ------------------ Mikeman Heros are like muffins when things get hot, they rise to the top.

05-27-2001, 11:43 PM	#4
Neal359 Mayor Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: richmond Posts: 558	same thing lots of people are using a large deep sand bed to do much of their biological filtration because to produses little to no nitrates. but you do become limited to the amount of fish you can put in the tank most people who are doing this have reef tanks that are realy into keeping coral and inverst and having a few fish

05-28-2001, 08:55 PM	#5
Rin Mayor Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 774	I think the Biobale in your skimmer has two functions. The first is to provide a home for the bacteria to covert NH3->NO2->NO3. The second is a debubbler. I think if you remove the entire bale from the skimmer, you may find more bubbles in your main tank. You'll probably have to strike a balance between bubbles and a nitrate factory. Good luck. ------------------ -Todd 'There're only 3 types of people in the world: Those who can count and those who can't'

05-29-2001, 12:04 AM	#6
stang69 Mayor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Bremerton, WA; 98310 Posts: 952	When I removed mine I actually had less bubbles in the tank. Jeff ------------------ What came first the fish or the egg?

05-29-2001, 02:11 PM	#7
jsaltzgi Reef/ SPS Addict Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Columbus,OH,43081 Posts: 144	A "biologocal" filter such as bioballs, or biobale for that matter can only produce as much nitrate as introduced into the system as amonia or nitrite. Thus if you do not overcrowd and overfeed, you will not have a so-called nitrate factory. You will not, however have the anaerobic conditions necessary for nitrification, whereby nitrates are converted into nitrogen gas.

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