400 watt mh coming!

zack s · 01-12-2003, 12:02 AM

ok I have a 50 which is 48" long and with snad bed 14" deep. I will be getting a 400 watt mh pendent 15k . I will hang it center so I have sps\clams in center and softies towards the outer parts. I was wondering your thoughts on begginner sps. I will not have a calicum reactor in but do use reef advantage calicum. Flow with 1200 maxy jetS. what you think?

**scubadude** · 01-12-2003, 10:05 AM

Welcome to an obsession that is hard to put down!

Some good SPS to start with

Montipora (especially montipora digitata)
Pocillaporas (just about any of em)

There are others, just try to stay away from the Acroporas for the most part until you have mastered the others. A 400w MH is nice but pay attention to where your corals are coming from....if you pull a nice SPS piece from a fish store under power compacts (or even MH's with less wattage or much higher than yours) then you are gonna have to acclimate these corals which can be VERY tedious....If I where you I would try to buy your SPS from ppl that grow under strong lighting that way there is much less chance of bleaching.

zack s · 01-14-2003, 12:27 PM

hey thanks there is farg swap coming and hope to get some from mtndewman!!!!!! I know I can trust him!

MtnDewMan · 01-14-2003, 07:41 PM

Trust who??? Me???????

I will try to bring a couple small Digitata frags for you on Saturday.

zack s · 01-15-2003, 12:29 AM

YES I can't wait man thanks a lot!

zack s · 01-16-2003, 12:17 AM

how long light on forr?

zack s · 01-17-2003, 12:36 AM

like 8 hours or 10?

MtnDewMan · 01-17-2003, 12:52 AM

If they are new I would start with a minimal photo period, like 5 hours. Then over weeks move your exposure longer. Like a half hour a week. I have my MHs on for 10 1/2 hours a day ...

zack s · 01-17-2003, 12:55 AM

hey ok so i get light tommor and then I plan on moving my lps to like outer sides and not dead center that is where sps\clams be but whn the frag swap happens I want ti so sps will have enough light to bo ok so will the photo period work with the sps??

MtnDewMan · 01-17-2003, 08:16 PM

In my opinion, you put SPS in the tank when you are prepared to keep them, not to rush it too fast or you will not have the best success. Don't get light and then automatically decide to immediately have a full capacity SPS system.

You should still acclimate the full tank to the new lighting. If you get hardy SPS, such as Digitata or something similar, then a reduced lighting period should be just fine for them.

zack s · 01-17-2003, 11:03 PM

don't worry believe me I won't rush, I have to little money to do that lol

, ok I just am hoping for the best!

zack s · 01-25-2003, 12:40 AM

ok I now have the light and it is about 17" off tankand will be moving it down a few inches every couple days!!! Corals seem to be ok with it!

**kevinpo** · 01-25-2003, 01:25 AM

Awesome! That orange Montipora digitata will turn bright orange (and I mean BRIGHT) if you put it about 12" below the water nearly directly under the bulb.

Regards,
Kevin
PS: I'll post a picture of the parent colony tomorrow when the lights come on. I don't have an updated one right now.

zack s · 01-25-2003, 11:29 AM

Hey I fraged that piece so I could fit it and I can see it WOW! It has like circle polyps is that right?

zack s · 01-25-2003, 04:12 PM

Here is a far pic

**kevinpo** · 01-25-2003, 04:14 PM

Yes it does. Here is the promised picture of the parent colony. I have made countless frags from it over the years. This colony is towards the bottom of the tank 24" below the lights. I have several other colonies that are higher in the tank which are much darker orange.

Regards,
Kevin

zack s · 01-25-2003, 04:15 PM

wow !!!! cool pic!

zack s · 02-01-2003, 01:43 PM

once the light gets down and such how long are lights on fo? I know to over time incres time but for how long when I am done should lights be on?

**kevinpo** · 02-01-2003, 02:42 PM

Hi Zack,
At least 9 hours. At 7 hours some corals will lose their color and turn brown. I haven't tried 8 hours, I just went from 7-9 hours. I currently run them for 10 hours but I haven't noticed any color improvement over 9 hours.

HTH,
Kevin

01-12-2003, 12:02 AM	#1
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	400 watt mh coming! ok I have a 50 which is 48" long and with snad bed 14" deep. I will be getting a 400 watt mh pendent 15k . I will hang it center so I have sps\clams in center and softies towards the outer parts. I was wondering your thoughts on begginner sps. I will not have a calicum reactor in but do use reef advantage calicum. Flow with 1200 maxy jetS. what you think?

01-12-2003, 10:05 AM	#2
scubadude Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 5,276	Hey Zack! Welcome to an obsession that is hard to put down! Some good SPS to start with Montipora (especially montipora digitata) Pocillaporas (just about any of em) There are others, just try to stay away from the Acroporas for the most part until you have mastered the others. A 400w MH is nice but pay attention to where your corals are coming from....if you pull a nice SPS piece from a fish store under power compacts (or even MH's with less wattage or much higher than yours) then you are gonna have to acclimate these corals which can be VERY tedious....If I where you I would try to buy your SPS from ppl that grow under strong lighting that way there is much less chance of bleaching.

01-14-2003, 07:41 PM	#4
MtnDewMan Mayor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mukilteo, WA Posts: 748	Trust who??? Me??????? I will try to bring a couple small Digitata frags for you on Saturday. __________________ MDM My Reef Tank Reef Frontiers

01-17-2003, 12:52 AM	#8
MtnDewMan Mayor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mukilteo, WA Posts: 748	If they are new I would start with a minimal photo period, like 5 hours. Then over weeks move your exposure longer. Like a half hour a week. I have my MHs on for 10 1/2 hours a day ... __________________ MDM My Reef Tank Reef Frontiers

01-17-2003, 08:16 PM	#10
MtnDewMan Mayor Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mukilteo, WA Posts: 748	In my opinion, you put SPS in the tank when you are prepared to keep them, not to rush it too fast or you will not have the best success. Don't get light and then automatically decide to immediately have a full capacity SPS system. You should still acclimate the full tank to the new lighting. If you get hardy SPS, such as Digitata or something similar, then a reduced lighting period should be just fine for them. __________________ MDM My Reef Tank Reef Frontiers

01-14-2003, 12:27 PM	#3
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	hey thanks there is farg swap coming and hope to get some from mtndewman!!!!!! I know I can trust him!

01-15-2003, 12:29 AM	#5
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	YES I can't wait man thanks a lot!

01-16-2003, 12:17 AM	#6
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	how long light on forr?

01-17-2003, 12:36 AM	#7
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	like 8 hours or 10?

01-17-2003, 12:55 AM	#9
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	hey ok so i get light tommor and then I plan on moving my lps to like outer sides and not dead center that is where sps\clams be but whn the frag swap happens I want ti so sps will have enough light to bo ok so will the photo period work with the sps??

01-17-2003, 11:03 PM	#11
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	don't worry believe me I won't rush, I have to little money to do that lol , ok I just am hoping for the best!

01-25-2003, 12:40 AM	#12
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	ok I now have the light and it is about 17" off tankand will be moving it down a few inches every couple days!!! Corals seem to be ok with it!

01-25-2003, 01:25 AM	#13
kevinpo Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spokane Valley WA Posts: 2,424	Awesome! That orange Montipora digitata will turn bright orange (and I mean BRIGHT) if you put it about 12" below the water nearly directly under the bulb. Regards, Kevin PS: I'll post a picture of the parent colony tomorrow when the lights come on. I don't have an updated one right now. __________________ SPSguy On - On

01-25-2003, 11:29 AM	#14
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	Hey I fraged that piece so I could fit it and I can see it WOW! It has like circle polyps is that right?

01-25-2003, 04:12 PM	#15
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	Here is a far pic Attached Thumbnails

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01-25-2003, 04:14 PM	#16
kevinpo Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spokane Valley WA Posts: 2,424	Yes it does. Here is the promised picture of the parent colony. I have made countless frags from it over the years. This colony is towards the bottom of the tank 24" below the lights. I have several other colonies that are higher in the tank which are much darker orange. Regards, Kevin Attached Thumbnails __________________ SPSguy On - On

01-25-2003, 04:15 PM	#17
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	wow !!!! cool pic!

02-01-2003, 01:43 PM	#18
zack s Tenant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: SEATTLE,WA Posts: 79	once the light gets down and such how long are lights on fo? I know to over time incres time but for how long when I am done should lights be on?

02-01-2003, 02:42 PM	#19
kevinpo Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spokane Valley WA Posts: 2,424	Hi Zack, At least 9 hours. At 7 hours some corals will lose their color and turn brown. I haven't tried 8 hours, I just went from 7-9 hours. I currently run them for 10 hours but I haven't noticed any color improvement over 9 hours. HTH, Kevin __________________ SPSguy On - On

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