need opinions on emperor

Bughead · 03-05-2003, 08:41 PM

This is a long story I'm going to make as short as possible but still explain. Last year, after having my juv emperor angel for 6 months, the tank was half wiped out (including the angel) by what was maybe brookynella or a nasty fungal infection. I later broke down the tank and did some repairs. I didn't disturb much of the sand and replaced the same rocks, but added a whole tank (180 gal) of new sea water. A couple of months later I got another juv emperor. I had him only one month when he develloped what looked like a fungus on his side and died.

Here's the thing: Having an emperor angel is my dream, the reason for upgrading the tank from 100 to 180. So in a couple of months I want to try again. The plan is to quarenteen it in a 30 gal tank for a month or so. But my friend says it won't make any difference because there is something in my main tank that the angels keep getting. My other fish, sailfin tang, regal tang, foxface rabbit, lawnmower blennie and two convict blennies are just as healthy as can be and I've had most of them almost 3 years.

I'd like you guy's opinions. Are emperors prone to something, like tangs are prone to ich, that can be treated in the qt tank? Do you think my main tank harbors some creapy disease that will attack every emperor I put in?
Thanks

**Ninong** · 03-05-2003, 11:08 PM

That's difficult to say for sure. Another possibility is that your P. imperator specimen was unhealthy when you got it. Specimens from Australia, the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea are a better bet than specimens from the Philippines or Indonesia because, in spite of what anybody may tell you, cyanide is still widely used in the the collection of marine fish in the latter two areas.

fishrule · 03-06-2003, 07:55 PM

I was lucky the second time. My first emperor didn't recognize food in the water column. The next time I got a fish, I made sure it was a very aggressive eater. The one I have now has been in the 200 gallon tank for almost 3 years. I change 25% of the water each and every week, feed all the frozen foods, and have started feeding the New Life Spectrum dried pellet foods. This fish eats everything in the tank and went from Jevunile to adult in my tank with complete coloration. I have it in a fish only tank with a uv sterilizer. I have also kept a cleaner wrasse for over 2 years and it is doing great. I think it is the constant weekly water changes and good frozen foods. I also use vitamins, etc.

organicreefer · 03-07-2003, 11:28 AM

i agree with ninong 100%.

find out where youre fish are coming from.start with a healthy alert aggressive eater-and dont compromise on that -he must be 100%.

personally -i wouldnt quarantine him either-i would put it straight into the big tank-but thats just my preference.

Reinhold · 03-07-2003, 01:55 PM

I had an adult Imperator angel in my FO tank. Interestingly, it started to revert back to a juvenile color pattern even though it was 6" long, then went back to the adult colors.

It developed a slight case of HLLE, which I was able to treat by feeding lettuce and doing more frequent water changes.

They are probably the most beautiful fish you can own.

03-05-2003, 08:41 PM	#1
Bughead Governor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Posts: 1,152	need opinions on emperor This is a long story I'm going to make as short as possible but still explain. Last year, after having my juv emperor angel for 6 months, the tank was half wiped out (including the angel) by what was maybe brookynella or a nasty fungal infection. I later broke down the tank and did some repairs. I didn't disturb much of the sand and replaced the same rocks, but added a whole tank (180 gal) of new sea water. A couple of months later I got another juv emperor. I had him only one month when he develloped what looked like a fungus on his side and died. Here's the thing: Having an emperor angel is my dream, the reason for upgrading the tank from 100 to 180. So in a couple of months I want to try again. The plan is to quarenteen it in a 30 gal tank for a month or so. But my friend says it won't make any difference because there is something in my main tank that the angels keep getting. My other fish, sailfin tang, regal tang, foxface rabbit, lawnmower blennie and two convict blennies are just as healthy as can be and I've had most of them almost 3 years. I'd like you guy's opinions. Are emperors prone to something, like tangs are prone to ich, that can be treated in the qt tank? Do you think my main tank harbors some creapy disease that will attack every emperor I put in? Thanks __________________ The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but it's the thought that counts.

03-05-2003, 11:08 PM	#2
Ninong Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Louisiana Posts: 19,736	That's difficult to say for sure. Another possibility is that your P. imperator specimen was unhealthy when you got it. Specimens from Australia, the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea are a better bet than specimens from the Philippines or Indonesia because, in spite of what anybody may tell you, cyanide is still widely used in the the collection of marine fish in the latter two areas. __________________ Ninong

03-06-2003, 07:55 PM	#3
fishrule Council Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Jacksonville fl usa Posts: 328	Bughead I was lucky the second time. My first emperor didn't recognize food in the water column. The next time I got a fish, I made sure it was a very aggressive eater. The one I have now has been in the 200 gallon tank for almost 3 years. I change 25% of the water each and every week, feed all the frozen foods, and have started feeding the New Life Spectrum dried pellet foods. This fish eats everything in the tank and went from Jevunile to adult in my tank with complete coloration. I have it in a fish only tank with a uv sterilizer. I have also kept a cleaner wrasse for over 2 years and it is doing great. I think it is the constant weekly water changes and good frozen foods. I also use vitamins, etc.

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03-07-2003, 11:28 AM	#4
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	i agree with ninong 100%. find out where youre fish are coming from.start with a healthy alert aggressive eater-and dont compromise on that -he must be 100%. personally -i wouldnt quarantine him either-i would put it straight into the big tank-but thats just my preference.

03-07-2003, 01:55 PM	#5
Reinhold Mayor Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 941	I had an adult Imperator angel in my FO tank. Interestingly, it started to revert back to a juvenile color pattern even though it was 6" long, then went back to the adult colors. It developed a slight case of HLLE, which I was able to treat by feeding lettuce and doing more frequent water changes. They are probably the most beautiful fish you can own.

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