Anthias!

Northman_with_reef · 04-15-2003, 05:45 PM

Hi!

I'm thinking about getting som anthiases for my 100gal reef.
Does anyone hare have any experience with them??
What Anthias species are easy to keep?
How many should I get?

Thanx!

-Thomas

Overboard · 04-15-2003, 09:35 PM

Hi,

My Bicolor Anthias eats well and seems to do ok with the intense metal halide reef lighting. Some anthias just can't take that much light and end up not eating.

I have no experience with them, but I believe Bartlett's are good too, but the ones I have seen in tanks lost their great color over time. I'll have to see if the same happens with my Bicolor. I think feeding mysis shrimp may help with that problem.

I do know that the Purple Anthias (there are a couple of varieties) need softer lighting than a SPS reef aquarium.

Good luck!

Mark

Northman_with_reef · 04-16-2003, 08:58 AM

So strong light is not healthy for the anthias.

I have 2x250HQI's(10000A-B) over my tank, will this cause problems???

**scubadude** · 04-16-2003, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Northman_with_reef
So strong light is not healthy for the anthias.

I have 2x250HQI's(10000A-B) over my tank, will this cause problems???

No I dont think your lights are gonna be a problem with anthias, however they need to be fed 2-3x's a day....they are pigs!

almostdiva · 04-16-2003, 02:14 PM

Thomas,

The sunburst/flathead anthias (Serranocirrhitus latus ) is my personal favorite. They are hearty and they are also gorgeous. You could do 1 male and 1 or 2 females in a tank your size (only 1 male). Here's a link that discusses them in detail [url=http://www.wetwebmedia.com/serranocirrhitus.htm[/URL]
and another for the family in general:
www.wetwebmedia.com/anthiina.htm

I also like the huchtii (Pseudanthias huchtii) and the Lori's/Tiger Tuka (P. lori)

The sunburst just need a cave to hide in and some dark corners. You'll love whichever you choose!

Rebecca

almostdiva · 04-16-2003, 02:15 PM

OK, I screwed up the first URL.

Here it is:
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/serranocirrhitus.htm

**Poseidon** · 04-16-2003, 10:11 PM

My experience with the Anthias are they are JUMPERS!!!! I was at Tropicorium considering purchasing a female (don't remember exact family) and when Jen went into the tank to get a Scooter blenny out for my buddy out flew the Fish I was looking at!!!! Man that thing got some AIR!!!!

Other then that my only other experience is I had a Pink Square Anthias as my very first "real" saltwater fish... (after the Damsels were taken out for the initial cycle) at the time I worked at a LFS and the the fish was Gorgeous!!!! I took him home acclimated him, and in the morning he was dead!!! We had only gotten him in days B4 and I had basically no clue as to what I was doing in Saltwater yet....

My 2 Cents...

Mike

Northman_with_reef · 04-17-2003, 06:21 AM

The jumping will be a real big problem

...
My tank is an open top with only my hqi fixture hanging over it.
I've already lost a wrasse because of my open top...

I have 1NasoLiteratus 1Zebrasoma Xanthurus 1Z.Desjardini and 2Chrysiptera Parasema.

Will these fishes do okay with the Anthias????

**scubadude** · 04-17-2003, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by almostdiva
You could do 1 male and 1 or 2 females in a tank your size (only 1 male).

Actually anthias are hermaphrodites and have the ability to change sex, I believe if memory serves me correctly there is only 1 male at a time as to say forced evolution. If you put two males in a tank one will change into a female. and if you have 3 females and 1 male and the male dies then one of the females will change into a male......You know how us males are....we like being around lots of women

**scubadude** · 04-17-2003, 10:44 AM

Here is a picture of one of my Bartlett Anthias

I had 5 but now have 4, and I think I lost one because I wasnt feeding enough at the time I lost him.

Rocky

**kevinpo** · 04-17-2003, 11:20 AM

IME the Lyretail Anthias are one of the most hardy. They ignore other fish. Get all females and one will turn into a male or get 1 male and the rest females. 1 male and 3 females is minimum IMO/IME. Their favorite food is raw shrimp followed by freeze-dried plankton and frozen formula1 cubes. They do not mind high light (400W halides).

HTH,
Kevin

**scubadude** · 04-17-2003, 11:29 AM

Thats the male in the middle right kevin? Shrimp is the fav food for my anthias too, GOOD LORD I love all anthias...they are all so beautiful and very active....Im not one to put a fish in the tank if it hides in hole all the time

**kevinpo** · 04-20-2003, 04:43 AM

Yes the one with the long dorsal fin is the male. One of the other females has turned into a sub-male since the picture was taken.

Regards,
Kevin

Northman_with_reef · 04-20-2003, 05:34 AM

Nice!

Kevin,
You have just inspired me to get Lyretail Antias!

Thanks for all your replies!

-Thomas

electric130 · 04-21-2003, 11:49 PM

i wish my tank was big enough for a nice school of anthias. i've only got a 90 though.

Northman_with_reef · 04-22-2003, 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by electric130
i wish my tank was big enough for a nice school of anthias. i've only got a 90 though.

I've got a 100gal....Too small???

hcp28 · 04-22-2003, 11:04 AM

Maybe he means his tank is already full... a 90 is surely big enough to hold a couple anthias right?

electric130 · 04-22-2003, 12:58 PM

when i said a nice school, i meant about 8-10 of them. a 90 would be too small for this. plus i already have enough fish. i just need a bigger tank.

04-15-2003, 05:45 PM	#1
Northman_with_reef Stonehammer Productions ™ Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Norway(Scandinavia) Posts: 461	Anthias! Hi! I'm thinking about getting som anthiases for my 100gal reef. Does anyone hare have any experience with them?? What Anthias species are easy to keep? How many should I get? Thanx! -Thomas __________________ They said aquariums would be relaxing......(yeah right) Saltvannsforum My LFS

04-16-2003, 08:58 AM	#3
Northman_with_reef Stonehammer Productions ™ Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Norway(Scandinavia) Posts: 461	So strong light is not healthy for the anthias. I have 2x250HQI's(10000A-B) over my tank, will this cause problems??? __________________ They said aquariums would be relaxing......(yeah right) Saltvannsforum My LFS

04-17-2003, 06:21 AM	#8
Northman_with_reef Stonehammer Productions ™ Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Norway(Scandinavia) Posts: 461	The jumping will be a real big problem... My tank is an open top with only my hqi fixture hanging over it. I've already lost a wrasse because of my open top... I have 1NasoLiteratus 1Zebrasoma Xanthurus 1Z.Desjardini and 2Chrysiptera Parasema. Will these fishes do okay with the Anthias???? __________________ They said aquariums would be relaxing......(yeah right) Saltvannsforum My LFS

04-17-2003, 10:44 AM	#10
scubadude Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 5,301	Here is a picture of one of my Bartlett Anthias I had 5 but now have 4, and I think I lost one because I wasnt feeding enough at the time I lost him. Rocky __________________ Rocky Last edited by scubadude; 04-17-2003 at 10:49 AM.

04-17-2003, 11:20 AM	#11
kevinpo Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spokane Valley WA Posts: 2,438	IME the Lyretail Anthias are one of the most hardy. They ignore other fish. Get all females and one will turn into a male or get 1 male and the rest females. 1 male and 3 females is minimum IMO/IME. Their favorite food is raw shrimp followed by freeze-dried plankton and frozen formula1 cubes. They do not mind high light (400W halides). HTH, Kevin __________________ SPSguy On - On

04-15-2003, 09:35 PM	#2
Overboard Just Moved In Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 10	Hi, My Bicolor Anthias eats well and seems to do ok with the intense metal halide reef lighting. Some anthias just can't take that much light and end up not eating. I have no experience with them, but I believe Bartlett's are good too, but the ones I have seen in tanks lost their great color over time. I'll have to see if the same happens with my Bicolor. I think feeding mysis shrimp may help with that problem. I do know that the Purple Anthias (there are a couple of varieties) need softer lighting than a SPS reef aquarium. Good luck! Mark

04-16-2003, 02:14 PM	#5
almostdiva Mayor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 966	Thomas, The sunburst/flathead anthias (Serranocirrhitus latus ) is my personal favorite. They are hearty and they are also gorgeous. You could do 1 male and 1 or 2 females in a tank your size (only 1 male). Here's a link that discusses them in detail [url=http://www.wetwebmedia.com/serranocirrhitus.htm[/URL] and another for the family in general: www.wetwebmedia.com/anthiina.htm I also like the huchtii (Pseudanthias huchtii) and the Lori's/Tiger Tuka (P. lori) The sunburst just need a cave to hide in and some dark corners. You'll love whichever you choose! Rebecca

04-16-2003, 02:15 PM	#6
almostdiva Mayor Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 966	OK, I screwed up the first URL. Here it is: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/serranocirrhitus.htm

04-16-2003, 10:11 PM	#7
Poseidon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Swartz Creek, MI Posts: 6,370	My experience with the Anthias are they are JUMPERS!!!! I was at Tropicorium considering purchasing a female (don't remember exact family) and when Jen went into the tank to get a Scooter blenny out for my buddy out flew the Fish I was looking at!!!! Man that thing got some AIR!!!! Other then that my only other experience is I had a Pink Square Anthias as my very first "real" saltwater fish... (after the Damsels were taken out for the initial cycle) at the time I worked at a LFS and the the fish was Gorgeous!!!! I took him home acclimated him, and in the morning he was dead!!! We had only gotten him in days B4 and I had basically no clue as to what I was doing in Saltwater yet.... My 2 Cents... Mike

04-17-2003, 11:29 AM	#12
scubadude Moderator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Wichita, Kansas Posts: 5,301	Thats the male in the middle right kevin? Shrimp is the fav food for my anthias too, GOOD LORD I love all anthias...they are all so beautiful and very active....Im not one to put a fish in the tank if it hides in hole all the time

04-20-2003, 04:43 AM	#13
kevinpo Moderator Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Spokane Valley WA Posts: 2,438	Yes the one with the long dorsal fin is the male. One of the other females has turned into a sub-male since the picture was taken. Regards, Kevin __________________ SPSguy On - On

04-20-2003, 05:34 AM	#14
Northman_with_reef Stonehammer Productions ™ Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Norway(Scandinavia) Posts: 461	Nice! Kevin, You have just inspired me to get Lyretail Antias! Thanks for all your replies! -Thomas __________________ They said aquariums would be relaxing......(yeah right) Saltvannsforum My LFS

04-21-2003, 11:49 PM	#15
electric130 Electrical Madman Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: charlotte Posts: 71	i wish my tank was big enough for a nice school of anthias. i've only got a 90 though. __________________ J.R. 90 Gallon LPS/Softie

04-22-2003, 11:04 AM	#17
hcp28 Evil Czar Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: New York, NY Posts: 1,001	Maybe he means his tank is already full... a 90 is surely big enough to hold a couple anthias right? __________________ Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall down an open manhole and die. -Mel Brooks

04-22-2003, 12:58 PM	#18
electric130 Electrical Madman Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: charlotte Posts: 71	when i said a nice school, i meant about 8-10 of them. a 90 would be too small for this. plus i already have enough fish. i just need a bigger tank. __________________ J.R. 90 Gallon LPS/Softie

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