More Japanese tanks.

**Ninong** · 07-27-2002, 10:12 AM

I found a new link to a Japanese LFS on another board yesterday and thought I would post a few pics here. I always find these tanks 'interesting.' Some people seem to find them 'unnatural.'

There are only a few tanks on this new site and they aren't as 'artistic' as some of the tanks on the old threads but they do have the same intensity of color. Again this raises the question of whether it is the lighting or computerized color enhancement by the website.

Almost all of the tanks are uncovered. Notice the 12 separate light fixtures over the first tank. The tanks with the slanted sides are attractive but probably difficult to light properly.

OK, any comments?

Here is the link to that site: http://www.splash-sea.co.jp/top.html

Here is a link to one of the previous Japanese sites: http://www.cpfarm.com/new/contest3/oubo3.html

Here is the homepage for C. P. Farm in case you want to browse it using a Japanese translator program: http://www.cpfarm.com/index.html The third link under Members' Room is the tank photo contest link and the third link under Topics is a link to unbelievable pics of the store's tanks.

Reinhold · 07-27-2002, 01:16 PM

Those are unbelievable. The plumbing is incredible. It's hard to believe that the colors are real.

mrok12 · 07-28-2002, 12:02 AM

Holy TECH FIX BATMAN.........BUT WOW. I love the peristalsic feeding pumps.

MROK12

BlueWater · 07-28-2002, 05:37 PM

Too bad I have to make like $85,000 a year to maintain a tank like that lol.

mrok12 · 07-28-2002, 09:43 PM

I make 70,000 a year and I could not afford that. That is just outrageous my friend. The pumps and dosing systems are real unreal. WOW. I am doing a diy Kalk reactor cuz IM cheap.

MROK12

DINHOUSE · 07-29-2002, 12:31 PM

I must say that after seeing those pics I am drooling but can even imagine the maintainance involved with a tank like that not to mention the cost! I spend a lot of time and money on my 55 gallon WHich I think looks half way decent but it in now way compares to the ones pictured here. Outrageous is right "Mrok12" I am the DIY king! Being cheap is how the rich stay that way!

mrok12 · 07-29-2002, 07:37 PM

Very true indeed. I must say though........I am moving in a year or two and am already planning the next set up. I have convinced my wife that we need a walk out basement. I am putting the tank down there and finishing a BAR / Wine Cellar and entertainment room. The tank will be in it backing a wall and all the GUTS will be behind it. I am keeping my 120 and using it as a refugium..... Adding a HUGE KALK reactor and CA reactor as well. Plus the Skimmer. I will probobly take a page from these setups as well. I already have the lights and the pumps for it. It is my child and Im slowly growing it up.

MROK12

dattack · 07-31-2002, 10:44 PM

Any idea how they do circulation in these tanks? I don't see any powerheads or piping in the pics.

**Ninong** · 07-31-2002, 11:25 PM

In the second and fourth pics powerheads are clearly visible in the top rear corners. There appears to be a return or powerhead in the upper right rear corner of the tank in the first pic and it is impossible to tell what's on the left side of the tank.

In the tank pictured in this thread: Japanese tank pic... I hope you have cable. there is a return pipe clearly visible in the upper right corner. Also the following statement was underneath that tank in Japanese and I translated it into English:

"The return is also in the right rear corner which allows you to send the water flow on the diagonal which makes for a strong flow throughout the tank.

"Also the flow is very strong due to a high turnover rate which causes the flow to surge through the openings of the live rock so that there are no stagnant areas."

C.P.Farm also had descriptions under the pictures of the various tanks in their photo contest and one of the things that they always praised was the ability of the aquarist to conceal as much of the equipment as possible. Several reefkeepers mentioned how they were able to conceal the returns within the rockwork. That seemed to be an important goal for them. They also praised tanks based on their color composition and balance of the colors and the balance of the shapes of the rockwork. Also, they do not tolerate coralline algae on the glass anywhere in the tank and mention that it is important to leave enough space between the rockwork and the glass to permit extensive cleaning of the algae from the glass.

Here is a typical comment about a member's tank: "Clears the glass and clean it puts out, the water, the excessive instruments are hidden to the utmost, degree of completion are high don't you think?"

It is really difficult to translate some of the machine English into everyday English that we can understand. Some of it is really funny. For instance, if you use AltaVista's Babel to translate the entire description that C.P.Farm gave for their in-house exclusive design tank (the one pictured at the top of the other thread), you will come across the following:

Leaf tank = I believe they mean reef tank.
Live lock = I believe they mean live rock.
Software coral = I believe they mean soft coral.

07-27-2002, 10:12 AM	#1
Ninong Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Louisiana Posts: 20,330	More Japanese tanks. I found a new link to a Japanese LFS on another board yesterday and thought I would post a few pics here. I always find these tanks 'interesting.' Some people seem to find them 'unnatural.' There are only a few tanks on this new site and they aren't as 'artistic' as some of the tanks on the old threads but they do have the same intensity of color. Again this raises the question of whether it is the lighting or computerized color enhancement by the website. Almost all of the tanks are uncovered. Notice the 12 separate light fixtures over the first tank. The tanks with the slanted sides are attractive but probably difficult to light properly. OK, any comments? Here is the link to that site: http://www.splash-sea.co.jp/top.html Here is a link to one of the previous Japanese sites: http://www.cpfarm.com/new/contest3/oubo3.html Here is the homepage for C. P. Farm in case you want to browse it using a Japanese translator program: http://www.cpfarm.com/index.html The third link under Members' Room is the tank photo contest link and the third link under Topics is a link to unbelievable pics of the store's tanks. __________________ Ninong

07-31-2002, 11:25 PM	#9
Ninong Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Louisiana Posts: 20,330	In the second and fourth pics powerheads are clearly visible in the top rear corners. There appears to be a return or powerhead in the upper right rear corner of the tank in the first pic and it is impossible to tell what's on the left side of the tank. In the tank pictured in this thread: Japanese tank pic... I hope you have cable. there is a return pipe clearly visible in the upper right corner. Also the following statement was underneath that tank in Japanese and I translated it into English: "The return is also in the right rear corner which allows you to send the water flow on the diagonal which makes for a strong flow throughout the tank. "Also the flow is very strong due to a high turnover rate which causes the flow to surge through the openings of the live rock so that there are no stagnant areas." C.P.Farm also had descriptions under the pictures of the various tanks in their photo contest and one of the things that they always praised was the ability of the aquarist to conceal as much of the equipment as possible. Several reefkeepers mentioned how they were able to conceal the returns within the rockwork. That seemed to be an important goal for them. They also praised tanks based on their color composition and balance of the colors and the balance of the shapes of the rockwork. Also, they do not tolerate coralline algae on the glass anywhere in the tank and mention that it is important to leave enough space between the rockwork and the glass to permit extensive cleaning of the algae from the glass. Here is a typical comment about a member's tank: "Clears the glass and clean it puts out, the water, the excessive instruments are hidden to the utmost, degree of completion are high don't you think?" It is really difficult to translate some of the machine English into everyday English that we can understand. Some of it is really funny. For instance, if you use AltaVista's Babel to translate the entire description that C.P.Farm gave for their in-house exclusive design tank (the one pictured at the top of the other thread), you will come across the following: Leaf tank = I believe they mean reef tank. Live lock = I believe they mean live rock. Software coral = I believe they mean soft coral. __________________ Ninong

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07-27-2002, 01:16 PM	#2
Reinhold Mayor Join Date: May 2001 Location: USA Posts: 941	Those are unbelievable. The plumbing is incredible. It's hard to believe that the colors are real.

07-28-2002, 12:02 AM	#3
mrok12 Mayor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Van Buren, MI Posts: 1,052	Holy TECH FIX BATMAN.........BUT WOW. I love the peristalsic feeding pumps. MROK12

07-28-2002, 05:37 PM	#4
BlueWater Citizen Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Manhattan Beach, California Posts: 129	Too bad I have to make like $85,000 a year to maintain a tank like that lol.

07-28-2002, 09:43 PM	#5
mrok12 Mayor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Van Buren, MI Posts: 1,052	I make 70,000 a year and I could not afford that. That is just outrageous my friend. The pumps and dosing systems are real unreal. WOW. I am doing a diy Kalk reactor cuz IM cheap. MROK12

07-29-2002, 12:31 PM	#6
DINHOUSE Just Moved In Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: KANSAS Posts: 33	I must say that after seeing those pics I am drooling but can even imagine the maintainance involved with a tank like that not to mention the cost! I spend a lot of time and money on my 55 gallon WHich I think looks half way decent but it in now way compares to the ones pictured here. Outrageous is right "Mrok12" I am the DIY king! Being cheap is how the rich stay that way!

07-29-2002, 07:37 PM	#7
mrok12 Mayor Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Van Buren, MI Posts: 1,052	Very true indeed. I must say though........I am moving in a year or two and am already planning the next set up. I have convinced my wife that we need a walk out basement. I am putting the tank down there and finishing a BAR / Wine Cellar and entertainment room. The tank will be in it backing a wall and all the GUTS will be behind it. I am keeping my 120 and using it as a refugium..... Adding a HUGE KALK reactor and CA reactor as well. Plus the Skimmer. I will probobly take a page from these setups as well. I already have the lights and the pumps for it. It is my child and Im slowly growing it up. MROK12

07-31-2002, 10:44 PM	#8
dattack Council Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: anaheim, CA Posts: 347	Any idea how they do circulation in these tanks? I don't see any powerheads or piping in the pics.

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