[Powder Blue]

Is it possible for fresh live rock to partially die when out of the ocean for a while and then cloud the water. I bought some that had been standing for a few hours out of water and after a day most of the barnicles have shed their pickup feelers and my water has gone milky. The Surgeons are however still feeding vigorously on the new rock and don't seem unhappy. I havent done any water tests yet. Want to leave it for another day.

Anyone heard of the Aquamedic Biostar Flotor clip on filter for aquariums for up to 400l. I have one on my 4ft (+-200l) which does not seem to effectivly polish the water like a carbon canister fliter or an effective sump. When disturbing the substrate for any reason the water takes a long time to settle. When I had a little Aqua clear 200 running with my smaller QT tank, it seemed to clear the water very fast as compared to the Biostar Flotor.

Sam

[RayPollett]

Originally Posted by Powder Blue

Is it possible for fresh live rock to partially die when out of the ocean for a while and then cloud the water. I bought some that had been standing for a few hours out of water and after a day most of the barnicles have shed their pickup feelers and my water has gone milky. The Surgeons are however still feeding vigorously on the new rock and don't seem unhappy. I havent done any water tests yet. Want to leave it for another day.

Anyone heard of the Aquamedic Biostar Flotor clip on filter for aquariums for up to 400l. I have one on my 4ft (+-200l) which does not seem to effectivly polish the water like a carbon canister fliter or an effective sump. When disturbing the substrate for any reason the water takes a long time to settle. When I had a little Aqua clear 200 running with my smaller QT tank, it seemed to clear the water very fast as compared to the Biostar Flotor.

Sam

What happened with your LR does happen to some people. It sounds like you added more LR to an established tank. If so all the fish in your tank should be fine. Just do a water change to keep the water more stable.

Ray

[Powder Blue]

Originally Posted by RayPollett

What happened with your LR does happen to some people. It sounds like you added more LR to an established tank. If so all the fish in your tank should be fine. Just do a water change to keep the water more stable.

Ray

Thanks Ray,

I nearly had a heart attack last night. The water was not improving so I did an Ammonia,Nitrite and Nitrate test and the levels were very high. I emmediatly removed the LR out of the tank and put it in my QT tank and did a 20% change. I also added a 750l/h internal canister filter with carbon in it to try and reduce the levels.

The LR really was smelly and most of the barnicles had died as well as many other organisms. When I got it, it was teaming with life. It had small crabs, micro and macro algea, barnicles even cracker shrimps on it. Within an hour or 2 the water started to clear and the smell eased up.

This morning the levels are lower but still a concern. Why does LR die??? My tank is not that old but I did treat it with a large dose of copper a month ago. Since I have done a few water changes but I can only imagine that some traces of copper may have killed the rock. The rock in the QT has not seemed to have got worse and that tank has never had a single drop of copper in it.

The fish seem very happy though. Eating well and very active. Unless the high levels take a few days to do damage. I rushed down to the beach last night and got another 60l of water which I am planning on changing today.

Regards
Sam

[RayPollett]

The copper would have done it. We suggest you never use it. It is deadly to most inverts and can remain in tanks for years even with repeated water changes according to some people.

Ray

[Powder Blue]

Originally Posted by RayPollett

The copper would have done it. We suggest you never use it. It is deadly to most inverts and can remain in tanks for years even with repeated water changes according to some people.

Ray

It can only be. The local fish shop say that a carbon filter will remove all the copper quite soon. I don't know so much. Could you suggest a good medication for white spot that is rock and reef freindly, possibly as effective as copper. The copper is cheap and effective but is very harsh.

Sam

[Reefland]

Copper should not be used in any system that contains invertebrates, LR and or LS. A better treatment for Ich is to remove all of the fish to quarantine until the parasite runs it's life cycle.

Scott Z.

[Powder Blue]

Originally Posted by Reefland

Copper should not be used in any system that contains invertebrates, LR and or LS. A better treatment for Ich is to remove all of the fish to quarantine until the parasite runs it's life cycle.

Scott Z.

Another question if I may.Can white spot be brought into the tank with sea sand close to the water, live rock right out the sea and shells ect?

I thought I had the horrible bugs out my system(clear for 2 months) and 3 days after adding some of the above the spots poped out on my Blue Tang. I would imagine that considering the cycle it may have been possible that some tomites were floating around or on the sand, rock and shells and found my Regal as a host when they got in my tank.

Another question, can a fish strongly resist a tomite penetrating it's skin if it is healthy and has a strong immunity. I know fiddling in tank and moving fish stresses them causing a weakened immunity.I have raised the temp to 34 c hoping to kill the tomites without medication. I also read that tomites do not survive in an enviroment over 32 c?? Since raising the temp, the spots have gone fast and I am waiting to see if they appear again. The fish seem very content feeding and foraging merily, specially my Morish Idol.

The majic LR that I lost got boiled and left in the sun for a few days. I have added it to another tank( fish free ) and hope I can mature it. I will never recover the barnicles ect but the red algea and bateria will find it's way back in again I am sure. The rock is very good looking and I don't want to toss it. Reading some info on fish shops, some guys bleech it and die it bright colours to make a sort of synthetic coral but I would not like to take a chance with either. Bleech and die could be a killer for my gang.

Sam

[Powder Blue]

Morning Scott,

Got some more very alive rock yesterday and put it in my tank as soon as possible. It is loaded with Algea and many living things, to many to mention. Any special care that I should take. I have been doing tests every couple of hours and have the rock under the lights. The fish have gone wild. Exploring and chomping around the rock. Particularly the Clowns. Almost seems like it's a new invader to their space. It's a large piece, abt 20kgs and I battled to get it in and perched on some other rocks for support and to enable a good flow under it. Got nipped a dozen times by the Clowns, both female and male don't like my hands in there. My hand is 20 times bigger but they go stiff with a tail waggle and rush in and bite as hard as they can.

So far, so good. The rock has been in for 12hrs and no smell. The water is also clear and all that has happened is the skimmer has filled a bit faster than usual.

Regards
Sam

[Reefland]

Hi Sam,

If you collected it and transferred it quickly, I wouldn't anticipate any problems, unless it has some unwated pests making a home in it.

Scott Z.

[Powder Blue]

Just a reply.
I seem to have been lucky. The rock is doing very well. Some of the Macro algea is going pale, probabaly from the different light and temp. There is no smell and the barnicles are sifting well.

My LFS said if I filter the water for a while with carbon, the copper will be removed.They have a client with a 500gal tank that wants to convert to reef. They filtered the water for a month with carbon, have added corals and they are all doing well. I have done the same. My rock is ok, my small long tenticle is fine and my Cleaner Shrimp is cleaning well.All items which I believe would die in copper.

In your experience, would you suggest a Radiantus anemone and a wild caught Clown the best to have a hosting Clown in my tank.My young captivity bred Clowns are not interested in my Long Tenticle. I dearly would like a hosting pair as it is something that can be studied for hours and would create much enjoyment for my kiddies.(and myself). I am not to keen on corals at this stage. I am running 5 tubes in a 4ft(220l) about 40kgs of LR which may not be enough. The light does look and seem very intense in the tank though and the Long Tenticle seems happy.
Regards
Sam