heniochus-bannerfish butterflys

TJ · 06-05-2001, 04:32 PM

I have been reading (lurking) this forum for some time now and don't recall seeing any info on the bannerfish butterfly. (heniochus) The book I have says that they are hardy and friendly. Can anyone tell me more about them? Will they do well in FO?
Tks TJ

nucleuscracker · 06-05-2001, 08:07 PM

cha ching - someone else that is interested in the bannerfish. I am looking to stock my 90 with 2 of the long fin banner fish - the yellow and white variety. From what I have read and heard they are very hardy for tanks and make a great addition.

Problem is finding them for sale. One LFS had 2 of the brown and white heniochus for sale but no yellow and white heniochus.

Anyone else have any thoughts as well?

thanks from me as well...

TJ · 06-05-2001, 08:54 PM

HI Nuccracker,
Yellow and white? The ones that I ordered are the heniochus acuminatus and they are black and white stripes with yellow on their backs...Is this the one?
TJ

nucleuscracker · 06-05-2001, 08:57 PM

That's what I meant - trying to do 2 things at the same time - HUGE procrastinator here.

The difference between the black and whites and the brown and whites is that the black and whites have a longer fin on top (not sure of its proper name

)

Where were you able to order them from?

TJ · 06-05-2001, 09:47 PM

I ordered them from local lfs. They are supposedly seasonal fish. Last week when I was in there, 3 were in the tanks. Apparently they sold over the weekend.
tj

nucleuscracker · 06-05-2001, 09:57 PM

ya my local LFS has 2 of the brown and white ones but I'm holding out for the black and whites - more color and I just think they are nicer looking. Going to stop in on R with my boss to the LFS if we end up in the area to see if they got their order in..

ScottC · 06-05-2001, 10:33 PM

I had one for over a year and a half, but the poor guy died from an ick infestation in the tank. I now have a second one. They are very hardy (if you don't count ick), personable, communal, easy to feed, and just an all around cool fish.

BTW... I have the black and white Heni, not the brown.

Scott

ScottC · 06-05-2001, 10:35 PM

Also..

I've had no luck introducing a second Heni into a tank with one in it already. Even with 2 introduced at the same time might prove to be detrimental after they take up residency. (from competition)

Bughead · 06-06-2001, 01:42 AM

I had a brown/yellow Heni (I think they may get larger than the black/yellow ones). He and my first powder blue tang were the first "real" fish to go into the tank after cycling. Of course tangs and betterflies should never be introduced into an immature system, especially a fish-only with dead coral. But I was stupid at the time and followed the advice of the lfs.

Anyway, the Heni and the tang were the best of buddies, and the butterfly was just a nice fish. Then the damsels started WW3, and I accidently poisoned the tank with weather stripping I'd used on a tank divider. Some of the fish died quickly (longnose butterfly died almost immediately), but Heni lived for another month, barely eating and had cloudy eyes. He looked so beat up like a war refugee, and actually toward the end started looking better and we thought he might make it.

I think they are one of the easier butterflies to keep. Hope you can find a pair to put in at the same time.

Mikeman · 06-07-2001, 05:28 PM

anybody have a pic of one?

nucleuscracker · 06-07-2001, 05:42 PM

one of my books does.....

Anyone?

TJ · 06-07-2001, 09:16 PM

http://animalatlas.com/encyclo/marin...r/heniocbw.htm

TJ · 06-07-2001, 09:19 PM

This picture doesn't do them justice...they are more beautiful than that IMO

Bughead · 06-08-2001, 01:24 AM

That reminds me--I did see my heni picking parasites off the other fish on occasion. Usually the tang, since they were buds. At the time I didn't know that was appropriate heni behavior and shocked me the first few times I saw him do it. And yes, the picture on the above site does not do them justice. They are quite lovely and graceful.

ScottC · 06-08-2001, 01:31 AM

I've seen my heni pick at the powder brown tang's gills too!!

A little "housekeeping"

They seem to be good buddies, too!

Scott

TJ · 06-08-2001, 07:49 PM

Well I added 2 3-4 inchers today. They seem to be getting along fine with the yellow tang and magenta dottyback. At first, tang was trying to stab them with his tang and then the dottyback kept harassing. I rearranged the tank and they all seem to be doing well. I really enjoy the heni's. I use to have a lot of freshwater angels before I started this sw tank.

The guy at lfs said the heni's sell out fast.
tj

nucleuscracker · 06-08-2001, 08:11 PM

what color heni's did you get?

TJ · 06-08-2001, 09:48 PM

I got the black and white ones (yellow on back). $25 each I just looked and they all seem to be getting along fine!! yeah!!

ScottC · 06-08-2001, 11:58 PM

Great!!

I hope they do well for you.

I paid $16 down here in Ft Lauderdale.

06-05-2001, 04:32 PM	#1
TJ Just Moved In Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: jax, fl Posts: 24	heniochus-bannerfish butterflys I have been reading (lurking) this forum for some time now and don't recall seeing any info on the bannerfish butterfly. (heniochus) The book I have says that they are hardy and friendly. Can anyone tell me more about them? Will they do well in FO? Tks TJ

06-05-2001, 08:07 PM	#2
nucleuscracker Mayor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: MI Posts: 589	cha ching - someone else that is interested in the bannerfish. I am looking to stock my 90 with 2 of the long fin banner fish - the yellow and white variety. From what I have read and heard they are very hardy for tanks and make a great addition. Problem is finding them for sale. One LFS had 2 of the brown and white heniochus for sale but no yellow and white heniochus. Anyone else have any thoughts as well? thanks from me as well... __________________ Why put off today what you can ignore tomorrow?

06-05-2001, 08:57 PM	#4
nucleuscracker Mayor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: MI Posts: 589	That's what I meant - trying to do 2 things at the same time - HUGE procrastinator here. The difference between the black and whites and the brown and whites is that the black and whites have a longer fin on top (not sure of its proper name ) Where were you able to order them from? __________________ Why put off today what you can ignore tomorrow?

06-05-2001, 09:57 PM	#6
nucleuscracker Mayor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: MI Posts: 589	ya my local LFS has 2 of the brown and white ones but I'm holding out for the black and whites - more color and I just think they are nicer looking. Going to stop in on R with my boss to the LFS if we end up in the area to see if they got their order in.. __________________ Why put off today what you can ignore tomorrow?

06-06-2001, 01:42 AM	#9
Bughead Governor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Posts: 1,152	I had a brown/yellow Heni (I think they may get larger than the black/yellow ones). He and my first powder blue tang were the first "real" fish to go into the tank after cycling. Of course tangs and betterflies should never be introduced into an immature system, especially a fish-only with dead coral. But I was stupid at the time and followed the advice of the lfs. Anyway, the Heni and the tang were the best of buddies, and the butterfly was just a nice fish. Then the damsels started WW3, and I accidently poisoned the tank with weather stripping I'd used on a tank divider. Some of the fish died quickly (longnose butterfly died almost immediately), but Heni lived for another month, barely eating and had cloudy eyes. He looked so beat up like a war refugee, and actually toward the end started looking better and we thought he might make it. I think they are one of the easier butterflies to keep. Hope you can find a pair to put in at the same time. __________________ The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but it's the thought that counts.

06-05-2001, 08:54 PM	#3
TJ Just Moved In Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: jax, fl Posts: 24	HI Nuccracker, Yellow and white? The ones that I ordered are the heniochus acuminatus and they are black and white stripes with yellow on their backs...Is this the one? TJ

06-05-2001, 09:47 PM	#5
TJ Just Moved In Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: jax, fl Posts: 24	I ordered them from local lfs. They are supposedly seasonal fish. Last week when I was in there, 3 were in the tanks. Apparently they sold over the weekend. tj

06-05-2001, 10:33 PM	#7
ScottC Council Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Posts: 297	I had one for over a year and a half, but the poor guy died from an ick infestation in the tank. I now have a second one. They are very hardy (if you don't count ick), personable, communal, easy to feed, and just an all around cool fish. BTW... I have the black and white Heni, not the brown. Scott

06-05-2001, 10:35 PM	#8
ScottC Council Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Posts: 297	Also.. I've had no luck introducing a second Heni into a tank with one in it already. Even with 2 introduced at the same time might prove to be detrimental after they take up residency. (from competition)

06-07-2001, 05:28 PM	#10
Mikeman Governor Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Watertown,SD,USA Posts: 1,502	anybody have a pic of one?

06-07-2001, 05:42 PM	#11
nucleuscracker Mayor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: MI Posts: 589	one of my books does..... Anyone? __________________ Why put off today what you can ignore tomorrow?

06-07-2001, 09:16 PM	#12
TJ Just Moved In Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: jax, fl Posts: 24	http://animalatlas.com/encyclo/marin...r/heniocbw.htm

06-07-2001, 09:19 PM	#13
TJ Just Moved In Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: jax, fl Posts: 24	This picture doesn't do them justice...they are more beautiful than that IMO

06-08-2001, 01:24 AM	#14
Bughead Governor Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA Posts: 1,152	That reminds me--I did see my heni picking parasites off the other fish on occasion. Usually the tang, since they were buds. At the time I didn't know that was appropriate heni behavior and shocked me the first few times I saw him do it. And yes, the picture on the above site does not do them justice. They are quite lovely and graceful. __________________ The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but it's the thought that counts.

06-08-2001, 01:31 AM	#15
ScottC Council Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Posts: 297	I've seen my heni pick at the powder brown tang's gills too!! A little "housekeeping" They seem to be good buddies, too! Scott

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06-08-2001, 07:49 PM	#16
TJ Just Moved In Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: jax, fl Posts: 24	Well I added 2 3-4 inchers today. They seem to be getting along fine with the yellow tang and magenta dottyback. At first, tang was trying to stab them with his tang and then the dottyback kept harassing. I rearranged the tank and they all seem to be doing well. I really enjoy the heni's. I use to have a lot of freshwater angels before I started this sw tank. The guy at lfs said the heni's sell out fast. tj

06-08-2001, 08:11 PM	#17
nucleuscracker Mayor Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: MI Posts: 589	what color heni's did you get? __________________ Why put off today what you can ignore tomorrow?

06-08-2001, 09:48 PM	#18
TJ Just Moved In Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: jax, fl Posts: 24	I got the black and white ones (yellow on back). $25 each I just looked and they all seem to be getting along fine!! yeah!!

06-08-2001, 11:58 PM	#19
ScottC Council Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ft Lauderdale, FL Posts: 297	Great!! I hope they do well for you. I paid $16 down here in Ft Lauderdale.

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