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Just Moved In
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 23
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Clown fish.
I posted awhile back about the algea problems that I was having. It is 100% cleared up now. I had a percula clown and bought a second one a little while later. They both died. No marks or anything at all. That was a coupe months ago. I bought a maroon clown this past Friday. He was eating well and hanging out in my rosebud anemone. Doing great. I get up this morning and my crab is eating him. My water levels are well within the normal ranges and can find nothing that could of killed him other than the crab. Do they ever get to a point they kill the fish in the tank? He is a fairly large hermit crab. I am just getting sick of my fish being killed or dying. Any thoughts?
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Just Moved In
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: united kingdom
Posts: 37
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this wont really help you but
i had 3 clownfish in total the first were 2 percula clowns and the other was the black and white clown, not sure of the name? first in were the two together they were fine and happy sharing anemone, a while later got the black/white one he seemed healthy like normal and i woke up one morning and he was stuck to my pipe which sucks the water in to the filter. then the other about a month or two later 1 of the perculas had died? dont know what happened everything seemed ok and i still have the other percula now he looks really happy and healthy???????????????????? also i have had the exact same prolem with all of my chromis dying, in total ive had about six and there all gone? i thought they were hardy just letting you know yr not alone ![]() |
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Hmmm... That definitaly is a good question. I am pretty sure the hemit crab didn't have anything to do with their demise as they are tipically scavengers. When you say all your paramiters are good what all have you tested for and can you give us the results? Maybe together we can figure it out.....
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I think it depends what kind of hermit crab you have. If you have the usual bluelegs and scarlets, those would not have killed your fish. There are other larger species that can consume fish though. Maybe do a little research to find out what species you have, or post a pic here.
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Just Moved In
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: USA
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Well, looks like my test kit is missing something vital. I had a slight elevation in copper. Looks like that my have been my problem. I think I have it all removed. I did not get to go the the store myself. I have been sick. They gave me a credit on the fish and they sent my wife home with a filter bag that is supposed to remove copper. My house filter is supposed to remove everything, but it had a leak and my wife turned the filter off. Guess it is time to get it fixed. I did not know when I did a water change. How do you know you are buying good water in a store? I have a container that I can buy water in or is the stuff you can buy any good? I don't know the name of it, but I have seen it there at our fish store.
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Just Moved In
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Ohio
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I am new to the forum, but to it seems to me that if there were a problem with your water quality your rosebud anenome would be the first to show signs of sufferage. I have had friends drop off fish that they thought were cool to my house while i was away, and my wife performed the acclimation, and by morning they were dead. Usually if a fish is close to healthy, even in less than perfect conditions, if you spend a couple of hours acclimating it, it sill live for at least a few days, but if you rush the acclimation process, just about anything, even in perfect water, will die pretty soon after it is in your tank. I would try it again, and really take your time introducing it to your tank, even most pet shops dont give you the proper info on acclimation.
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Tenant
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lakeland, Florida
Posts: 58
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Try nutri-sea water it is real ocean water that has been treated for all the bad stuff it is sort of pricey but it is well worth it really has everything you need and it comes in 4.4 gal containers at my lfs they sell it for 2 4.4 gals for 26 dollars but that is more than enough for my weekly water changes and lasts me about 1 month and 1 week. fish and coral have never been happier. also you should include tank info you may have incorrect lighting filtration something contanminating water to high temp to low to much fluctuations to much of a water change at once not enough food not enough variety, the wrong food etc etc. there are many different problems you may have or only one or jsut bad luck let us know those different things.
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Tenant
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lakeland, Florida
Posts: 58
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forgot to add this.
try using the drip method for acclimation. take your new fish or invert with bag of water or what ever it came in take a 5 gal bucket now gently put the fish and the bag of water into the bucket if not enough water tilt bucket. now grab some air line 6-8 feet work good for me plenty to work with that way. now jsut like a water change apply suction to hose and let water flow into the bucket. adjust flow so that it is about 8 drips a second and let the bucket fill up. while the bucket is filling get another bucket and wait for first bucket to fill then take water out of the first bucket with a cup till first bucket is half empty. put water in second bucket and dump out. You never want to add water from any LFS place to your aquarium. do this for about 2 hours till you have dumped out about 10 gals of water. also have extra water on hand to replace water in the tank you are taking out. in effect you are doing a water change and acclimation at the same time. water change is just a slower process. after the 2 hour period take fish out of the bucket with a plastic bag or cup not a net nets can damage eyes and scales and fins further stressing the fish and touching with hands it bad to because it will destroy the mucous membrane on the fish. which could cause infection. after taking fish out with bag or cup place it in the tank. be sure also to have the room and the tank you are introducing your new specimens in dimmly lit moonlights or something similar. bright lights stress fish also when they are being introduced. while having your new fish or invert gradually increase the amount of light in your tank to full power this is about a one week process. I have used this method for about 1.5 years compared to the old float bag let temp become the same add a lil water dump in fish method which can take 1 hour this long process although longer greatly reduces stress on the fish or invert and the gradual process helps them acclimate much better they. the fish I use the drip method on often have better color eat healthier and are more energetic quicker than in the floating method. also do not feed the animals during the first day. they usually will not eat and the uneaten food will just cause ammonia spikes and higher nitrate further stressing livestock. Hope this method works well for you it is tried and true and many online fs are advocates of this method also. sorry so long |
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