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Old 04-28-2001, 06:21 PM   #1
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Cool Got a 72 gal... and a whopper of an idea!!! read :)

i got a 72 gal bow front, and want to look into every angle. Reef or Fish-Only? if it was fish only what fish could i keep? are triggers too big? i was also thinking of using it for when i go fishing, bring back a striped bass, or sea robin, pagols (sp?), flounder, i've caught triggers before, snappers, eels, porgees (sp?), black fish.. My dad would love that tank! we'd go fishing every week to catch more [img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img] I might do that, it would cost me ~$400 (filter, powerheads, light, substrate, rocks (i'd still get LR) to set up a fish only, catch the fish... and i'd have a cool tank until I have enough saved up for a reef.. if i set-up ASAP, add 1 or 2 nice sized LR pieces, and seed with LS when would i beable to add fish by may 19? i have a big fishin trip planned!
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Old 04-29-2001, 04:12 AM   #2
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viable? I think I'd dip the fish in copper or something when i bring 'em. how much? anything else to dip 'em in?
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Old 04-30-2001, 06:02 AM   #3
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HEEEEEEYYYYYYY!!!! IS THIS A BAD IDEA OR NOT????
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Old 05-02-2001, 04:47 AM   #4
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anything else to dip 'em in?
peanut oil


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i've caught triggers before, snappers, eels, porgees
triggers in the waters off of NY?



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Old 05-02-2001, 05:48 AM   #5
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Gray triggers are not uncommon up here.

You could do a formalin dip. I think copper might be more effective if you dosed the tank over several weeks. However, then you couldn't have live rock.

It sounds like a cool idea. Some of the fish you mentioned get really large, and would need a bigger system, and maybe a chiller. It might work if you caught little guys. JMO. [img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 05-02-2001, 07:20 AM   #6
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the Atlantic Queen triggers ,very nasty, also could be up there not exactly sure how far north they travel.
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Old 05-02-2001, 07:25 AM   #7
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Cool, I never knew they were that far north. I grew up on the jersey shore, catching flounder, blues, and sea robins, but never saw a trigger.

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Old 05-02-2001, 09:18 AM   #8
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The legal limit on stripers is like 12 or 13 inches, so they're definitely out.
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Old 05-02-2001, 04:36 PM   #9
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if i took 'em, kept em in a tank for a while then ate em (BWAHAHAHA) that would be a solution to the problem of releasing them... i would bring home a striper, unless it was like 6" cause those things could go through the glass! i would really like to bring home a sea robin (cool looking) i got this idea from a local bait shop, with a shark tank. think i could set the tank up, Sand, filter, sump... then add the LR?? that way the possibility of foriegn parasite is eliminated.

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Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. It's illegal to take stripers smaller than 12 or 13 in. Besides, even a smaller one wouldn't be happy in a 72g tank. Those guys need a lot of swimming room.
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Old 05-02-2001, 08:43 PM   #11
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i've caught them on two occasions, they were tasty [img]/ubb/lol.gif[/img] the only place i've caught them was off a jeti by shinecok bay (sp?) they were with a school of blue fish, in very rough water.

i wouldnt plan on taking anything large home, i say if they survived that long, let 'em live!

it is also very easy to catch puffers. the ones i caught had blue stripes on by the eyes, like a huma trig.

i was thinking of keeping them in a medicated holding tank for 24 hours or so. i would also let them go before winter, by the gulf stream, where the waters nice and warm.

it would be cool!! would formalin or copper hurt scale-less fish?? im gonna bring a few coolers to keep 'em in, for the ride home. im gonna start setting up soon, my BDAY is the 25th so i got presents commign

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Old 05-02-2001, 08:59 PM   #12
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If you fish and you plan on eating it, keep it. If you don't, let it go. This method of collection for stocking a tank probably isn't the best for survivability of the fish.

As for the idea of releasing specimens back into the wild after they get too big, this is irresponsible. You could unknowingly introduce disease and parasites that would do more harm than good. Leave the release programs to the professionals.

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Old 05-08-2001, 10:49 AM   #13
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it sounds like it would be fun, but it seems to that if you are catching these fish more than likely they will be a little bit too big for that size tank. i understand about the money part. if you want to do it though i say go for it and see how it works.
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Those fish are not really meant for the 72G aquarium, I think it is a bad idea. I also think the fish would be way to stressed with the combo of being tortured by a hook in the mouth, and then being thrown into a very very little new home, comparatively. I just dont think this whole, catch um, keep um, throw um back, is a very good idea.

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Alot of triggers and harlequin tuskfish are caught using barbless hooks and then sent to us aquarists. WHy not use a barbless hook?
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I did a research project on Blue crabs once and when I was done I boiled the guys, family ate well that night. [img]/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

I do think, however, that if your going offshore at all, when you reel the guys in their swim bladders will pop like balloons.
You'd have to fish from shore to have any survivability.

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Old 05-08-2001, 08:01 PM   #16
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Those fish are not really meant for the 72G aquarium, I think it is a bad idea. I also think the fish would be way to stressed with the combo of being tortured by a hook in the mouth, and then being thrown into a very very little new home, comparatively. I just dont think this whole, catch um, keep um, throw um back, is a very good idea.

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Old 05-12-2001, 04:39 AM   #17
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fishkid,
get yourself a sobeki rig. its a rig with about 10 little feathers mounted on 10 really small hooks. their bait jigs. usually you catch very interesting small fish more suited for an aquarium.
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Old 05-12-2001, 05:37 AM   #18
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sounds cool
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