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Quarantine Tank Setup
"For many years I refused to use a quarantine tank. I treated the same fish for ich and diseases over and over again, losing some old friends in the process and certainly shortening the lives of the fish that survived. Since I started quarantining new arrivals, I have had NO instances of ich or other diseases introduced into my main tanks since I started quarantine procedures." Loachaholic Last edited by WHOSYOURDADDY; 06-14-2005 at 12:50 PM. |
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Great info! Always looking for informative posts such as this one. Thanks!
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Just Moved In
Join Date: May 2005
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Hi, I am looking to set up a hospital tank & was wondering if an all in one tank can be used for this purpose, I was thinking about "Marieland, Eclipse system 12". any suggestions?
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Bardstown, KY
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Hi homeangler,
Any tank can be used for a quarantine tank provided it is large enough to house the animals to be q'ed and provides the most basic filtration. In your case, a 12 gallon tank would be excellent for q'ing small fish but I would definitely not hold a tang in a tank this small for a 4-6 week period. |
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Just Moved In
Join Date: May 2005
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what size would you use for tang & angels? (small to medium size) also I am concernd about using medications & copper messing up the biological bactera, how do i address this? Thanks Al |
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Hey Everyone!
As of yet I have never used a quarantine tank and have not had a problem. This span has covered about 20 years of fish keeping both fresh and salt water. I contribute this good (lucky) track record to my diligence in carefully selecting the stores I purchase from the condition of the fish and of course properly acclimating them to reduce stress which can incur an outbreak of ich. I am sure water quality is also a factor. With that said I am planning to set one up before the 375 is finished and believe they are an important part of preventative maintenance for our tanks. Not only is this a good idea to prevent fish diseases but should be used for corals as well which can host parasites such as red bugs. So remember don't rely just on your quarantine tank to prevent problems. Pay attention to the condition of the fish you want and its tanks mates, don't impulse buy, be sure your water quality is always high and acclimate properly..... Hope that helps....
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Here is my take on quarantine tanks, http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/20...ture/index.php
It is specifically written for saltwater aquariums and includes a long list of references and additional resources at the end for dealing with a wide variety of pests and pathogens. |
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Just Moved In
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Thank you so much Steve, I am setting up my QTT as we speak, great info. thanks again
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Awesome !!! More great info.... Seems like you did some homework for that one. Thanks and keep it up...
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Join Date: Feb 2000
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But stress weakens the fishes ability to fight off Ich.
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A lot of people believe that stress must be related to infection or mortality rates, but that does not have to be true. For example, does your dog have to be neglected and under stress to get fleas or ticks? Of course not! They merely have to be exposed to these parasites to become infected. The same thing could be true for fishes and their parasites.
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Thanks Scott!!
Wow you guys are missing the point. We are talking about ammune systems here.... If the fish is already in a weakened state from stress then it will be harder for them to fight infections and deases etc.... Maybe I should have worded the previous statement differently. Maybe the word should be incur not induce...... :slap:
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From this site: http://www.algone.com/ich.htm New arrivals with a weak and unprepared immune system are extremely susceptible for the parasite and are ideal victims for parasitic infection. The unexpected appearance of Ich without new arrivals is usually caused by deteriorating water parameters which weaken the fish’s immune system. Excess nutrients, nitrates, fluctuating pH, ammonia, low dissolved oxygen content and other stress causing factors will lower the fish’s’ immune system and may lead to an outbreak which could have been avoided by good aquarium maintenance. Nevertheless the parasite has to be present in order for the disease to break out.
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I guess on the flip side, the fish doesn't have to be weak if the parasite is present...
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Very True Scott...... I guess that is why the quarantine tank. So if a fish looks healthy but has (say ich) and you put it in quarantine without proper acclimation etc you may weaken it enough that it won't be able to fight the dease and parish. Just a thought....
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yes,,a fish under stress has a diminished slime coat which makes it easier for the parasite to attach.,,but no matter how weakened or close to death a fish is, it cannot get ich if the parasite is not present within the closed system.
it's just a misconception that all ich outbreaks are due to stress. just not the case. happy reading: http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...hreadid=595224 |
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From that site you listed (either poor or grossly outdated),,i am particularly interested in the following quote:
"The Ich parasite can be introduced by new arrivals of fish, or be dormant in the aquarium itself" i am unaware of the "dormant" part of the C. irritans lifecycle? the article continues with the following: "The life cycle of Ich includes 3 stages" there is no mention of the 'dormant' stage they described above. another fallacy; "For salinity insensitive aquatic environments, slowly lowering the salinity to 1.009-1.010 (specific gravity) for 14 days will extinct the parasite." research has indicated min of 6 weeks with 8 recommended.
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