difficult pygmy angel id

NMReef · 05-18-2001, 05:49 PM

Ok...I'll try here.....recently added a very nice healthy pygmy angel(lfs's only id)(it is a pygmy....I'm sure of it)......every place I've checked says its a cherub.......and it appears to be close.....but with the following differences
1) body is much darker(blackish/purpleish)
2)red on head is mainly only on lower part of head
3) reddish circles around eyes
4) brillant metalic blue streak along lower body (edge of fins)
5) tail is yellowish
can any one help id this guy or provide a pic thats close......I just want to id it....gr8 addition
sorry I'm not set up to post pics or I would

**Ninong** · 05-18-2001, 06:18 PM

Hi NMReef, welcome to Reefland! [img]/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

Is this a very young juvenile or a more mature specimen? I can't find anything that matches your description exactly. The yellow tail would seem to point to Centropyge acanthops instead of C. argi, but the rest of your description throws me. You say the coloration on the head is red instead of the usual yellowish-orange of C. argi, and you talk about red circles around the eyes instead of blue.

Maybe it is C. argi but without full adult coloration yet.

Ninong [img]/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img]

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the_blue_tuna · 05-18-2001, 10:08 PM

May want to drop Bob Fenner an e-mail . Possibly he could shed some more light on this fish for you . He may also have pics at his site www.wetwebmedia.com

welcome to Reefland!!!

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NMReef · 05-18-2001, 10:10 PM

ty ninong...for the welcome and for the help
actually I've been here for a long time....lurk back here in the shadows gaining knowledge.....matter of fact I feel like I know you and several others(nice tank you got recently)
as for the ID......the head is rather orangeish/yellowish and not really red...the rest is pretty accurate....and it may be juvinile........I'll look for pic of your suggestion....and again thank you

NMReef · 05-18-2001, 10:12 PM

and thanks to you also blue tuna(you was posting as I was answerin ninong) and you was faster than me.....I'll check as you suggested.......

NMReef · 05-18-2001, 10:34 PM

Well now....that was quick......Ninong you were a big help but I gotta tell ya.........da blue tuna is now my official pygmy ID hero..........checked his refered site.....dug a lil and guess what........at this site(http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.cfm?ID=5664)....there he is....I now have a positive id and thanks to you both for your help
Centropyge Flavicauda

05-18-2001, 05:49 PM	#1
NMReef Just Moved In Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Clovis,NM USA Posts: 5	difficult pygmy angel id Ok...I'll try here.....recently added a very nice healthy pygmy angel(lfs's only id)(it is a pygmy....I'm sure of it)......every place I've checked says its a cherub.......and it appears to be close.....but with the following differences 1) body is much darker(blackish/purpleish) 2)red on head is mainly only on lower part of head 3) reddish circles around eyes 4) brillant metalic blue streak along lower body (edge of fins) 5) tail is yellowish can any one help id this guy or provide a pic thats close......I just want to id it....gr8 addition sorry I'm not set up to post pics or I would

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05-18-2001, 06:18 PM	#2
Ninong Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Louisiana Posts: 20,692	Hi NMReef, welcome to Reefland! [img]/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] Is this a very young juvenile or a more mature specimen? I can't find anything that matches your description exactly. The yellow tail would seem to point to Centropyge acanthops instead of C. argi, but the rest of your description throws me. You say the coloration on the head is red instead of the usual yellowish-orange of C. argi, and you talk about red circles around the eyes instead of blue. Maybe it is C. argi but without full adult coloration yet. Ninong [img]/ubb/biggrin.gif[/img] ------------------ Irrational Exuberance!

05-18-2001, 10:08 PM	#3
the_blue_tuna Governor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: colorado Posts: 1,207	May want to drop Bob Fenner an e-mail . Possibly he could shed some more light on this fish for you . He may also have pics at his site www.wetwebmedia.com welcome to Reefland!!! ------------------ In this hobby patience is not a virtue,,,,,its mandatory. Jim's Marine Links

05-18-2001, 10:10 PM	#4
NMReef Just Moved In Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Clovis,NM USA Posts: 5	ty ninong...for the welcome and for the help actually I've been here for a long time....lurk back here in the shadows gaining knowledge.....matter of fact I feel like I know you and several others(nice tank you got recently) as for the ID......the head is rather orangeish/yellowish and not really red...the rest is pretty accurate....and it may be juvinile........I'll look for pic of your suggestion....and again thank you

05-18-2001, 10:12 PM	#5
NMReef Just Moved In Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Clovis,NM USA Posts: 5	and thanks to you also blue tuna(you was posting as I was answerin ninong) and you was faster than me.....I'll check as you suggested.......

05-18-2001, 10:34 PM	#6
NMReef Just Moved In Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Clovis,NM USA Posts: 5	Well now....that was quick......Ninong you were a big help but I gotta tell ya.........da blue tuna is now my official pygmy ID hero..........checked his refered site.....dug a lil and guess what........at this site(http://www.fishbase.org/Photos/ThumbnailsSummary.cfm?ID=5664)....there he is....I now have a positive id and thanks to you both for your help Centropyge Flavicauda

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