Sump designe any good will it work?

wozza · 07-07-2006, 05:28 AM

hi guys ive just finnished my sump designe what do you think?
would this work?

DaviesPats · 07-07-2006, 11:18 AM

idont use a sump in my tank ihave a hang-onprotein skimmer...but anyhowfrom reading other threads on another website...id say ditch the bio-balls

**Poseidon** · 07-08-2006, 05:30 PM

Sure it would work, but I only ever use 2 baffles, right before the return pump to keep out the bubbles.

It looks like you added a lot of complexity there, I too would ditch the balls.

Randy1 · 07-09-2006, 08:29 AM

I'd get rid of the bio balls and use a drip plate for better gas exchange. You won't need miracle mud either.

wozza · 07-09-2006, 08:57 AM

hmm... what is a drip plate? ive never heard of one.
ide use the miracle mud to get rid of nitrates it would also have some macro algie in there.
or would the drip plate do this as well!
thanks for you coments

wozza · 07-09-2006, 04:48 PM

Right then ive just read that miricle mud is a bunch of arse, so im not gonna use that any more.
so now i need a whole new designe, thats were you guys come in, the aim of me building a sump is to get rid of the stuff i have in my tank making it look messy(i.e.. 3 big black filters). and to get rid of nitrate and phosphate as im hoping my live rock in my tank will take care of the ammonia and nitrite. so what do you all suggest for me to put in my sump/refugium to do this task??

thanks
james

prow · 07-13-2006, 08:20 PM

here is my sump i just built in the attachment. made it out of a 45gal long. i have the ASM G3 skimmer. at 12" of water i have it in, actually closer to 13", it works great. just an FYI.

prow · 07-13-2006, 08:22 PM

lol, oopppss. forgot to attach the attachment. so here you go.

wozza · 07-14-2006, 06:53 AM

cool why do you have thoes 4 baffles at the end?
also in the long compartment could you have a refugeum in it?

prow · 07-14-2006, 11:39 AM

i do have a refugium in it. i just have some LR and cheato in there. the 4 baffles at the end are so no microbubbles come through. also gives me a space to put carbon or other media in when i need too. in those same baffles i put my probes also.

Dazza888 · 07-14-2006, 12:59 PM

hihi mate
to get rid of phosphate, maybe u can consider putting a fluidised reactor into yr sump filled with some phospate removing media eg, rowaphos...

a gd skimmer will help to prevent additional nitrates frm forming... as for existing nitrates, u cud try nutrient removal by growing macroalgae (eg chaeto) in one of yr sump compartment...

Quote:

Originally Posted by wozza

Right then ive just read that miricle mud is a bunch of arse, so im not gonna use that any more.
so now i need a whole new designe, thats were you guys come in, the aim of me building a sump is to get rid of the stuff i have in my tank making it look messy(i.e.. 3 big black filters). and to get rid of nitrate and phosphate as im hoping my live rock in my tank will take care of the ammonia and nitrite. so what do you all suggest for me to put in my sump/refugium to do this task??

thanks
james

wozza · 07-14-2006, 01:29 PM

cool cheers for the help guys.
ill post my new designe up soon to see what you all think

wozza · 07-16-2006, 10:00 AM

ok here is my new designe for a sump what yall think??

prow · 07-16-2006, 03:37 PM

IMO you need to add a couple baffles between the refugium and the retun pump. with it flowing over like it is into the pump return you will get lots micro bubbles in the tank, JMO

prow · 07-16-2006, 03:40 PM

what kind of flow will have going through there? if low flow might not get that many bubbles but if higher flow rates are going to be going through it you will have lots of unwanted micro bubbles.

wozza · 07-16-2006, 06:02 PM

i was thinking of havin about 700 - 1000 liters per hour through there, ok ill add a couple of baffles then that will give me some room for chemical media as well, cheers

Dazza888 · 07-16-2006, 10:42 PM

hihi wozza... my sump is 2.5ft by 2 ft by 2 ft n i hv 2 return pumps attached... 1 from sump direct back to tank ... 2nd one from sump to chiller & then back to tank with a t to fluidised reactor... This 2nd one by the time it gets beack to the tank the flow is not strong at all...

each pump is rated at 3000 (tunze & aquabee) litre per hr . Plse note that by the time the water gets pumped up back into tank & if t eed off to some other equipment b4 back to tank the flow rate can be diminished by a great deal...

wozza · 07-18-2006, 06:45 AM

ok thanks for the usefull info dazza

07-07-2006, 05:28 AM	#1
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07-08-2006, 05:30 PM	#3
Poseidon Moderator Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Swartz Creek, MI Posts: 6,371	Sure it would work, but I only ever use 2 baffles, right before the return pump to keep out the bubbles. It looks like you added a lot of complexity there, I too would ditch the balls. __________________ Need a Photographer? Just say NO to CRABS Mike

07-09-2006, 08:57 AM	#5
wozza Mayor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk, devon Posts: 886	hmm... what is a drip plate? ive never heard of one. ide use the miracle mud to get rid of nitrates it would also have some macro algie in there. or would the drip plate do this as well! thanks for you coments __________________ Betta lifespace 16lts OH YEAH!!!! going live in sept

07-09-2006, 04:48 PM	#6
wozza Mayor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk, devon Posts: 886	Right then ive just read that miricle mud is a bunch of arse, so im not gonna use that any more. so now i need a whole new designe, thats were you guys come in, the aim of me building a sump is to get rid of the stuff i have in my tank making it look messy(i.e.. 3 big black filters). and to get rid of nitrate and phosphate as im hoping my live rock in my tank will take care of the ammonia and nitrite. so what do you all suggest for me to put in my sump/refugium to do this task?? thanks james __________________ Betta lifespace 16lts OH YEAH!!!! going live in sept

07-14-2006, 06:53 AM	#9
wozza Mayor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk, devon Posts: 886	cool why do you have thoes 4 baffles at the end? also in the long compartment could you have a refugeum in it? __________________ Betta lifespace 16lts OH YEAH!!!! going live in sept

07-07-2006, 11:18 AM	#2
DaviesPats Just Moved In Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 22	idont use a sump in my tank ihave a hang-onprotein skimmer...but anyhowfrom reading other threads on another website...id say ditch the bio-balls

07-09-2006, 08:29 AM	#4
Randy1 Tenant Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 91	I'd get rid of the bio balls and use a drip plate for better gas exchange. You won't need miracle mud either.

07-13-2006, 08:20 PM	#7
prow Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: california Posts: 243	here is my sump i just built in the attachment. made it out of a 45gal long. i have the ASM G3 skimmer. at 12" of water i have it in, actually closer to 13", it works great. just an FYI.

07-14-2006, 11:39 AM	#10
prow Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: california Posts: 243	i do have a refugium in it. i just have some LR and cheato in there. the 4 baffles at the end are so no microbubbles come through. also gives me a space to put carbon or other media in when i need too. in those same baffles i put my probes also.

07-14-2006, 01:29 PM	#12
wozza Mayor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk, devon Posts: 886	cool cheers for the help guys. ill post my new designe up soon to see what you all think __________________ Betta lifespace 16lts OH YEAH!!!! going live in sept

07-16-2006, 10:00 AM	#13
wozza Mayor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk, devon Posts: 886	ok here is my new designe for a sump what yall think?? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Betta lifespace 16lts OH YEAH!!!! going live in sept

07-16-2006, 03:37 PM	#14
prow Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: california Posts: 243	IMO you need to add a couple baffles between the refugium and the retun pump. with it flowing over like it is into the pump return you will get lots micro bubbles in the tank, JMO

07-16-2006, 03:40 PM	#15
prow Citizen Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: california Posts: 243	what kind of flow will have going through there? if low flow might not get that many bubbles but if higher flow rates are going to be going through it you will have lots of unwanted micro bubbles.

07-16-2006, 06:02 PM	#16
wozza Mayor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk, devon Posts: 886	i was thinking of havin about 700 - 1000 liters per hour through there, ok ill add a couple of baffles then that will give me some room for chemical media as well, cheers __________________ Betta lifespace 16lts OH YEAH!!!! going live in sept

07-16-2006, 10:42 PM	#17
Dazza888 Just Moved In Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 11	hihi wozza... my sump is 2.5ft by 2 ft by 2 ft n i hv 2 return pumps attached... 1 from sump direct back to tank ... 2nd one from sump to chiller & then back to tank with a t to fluidised reactor... This 2nd one by the time it gets beack to the tank the flow is not strong at all... each pump is rated at 3000 (tunze & aquabee) litre per hr . Plse note that by the time the water gets pumped up back into tank & if t eed off to some other equipment b4 back to tank the flow rate can be diminished by a great deal...

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07-18-2006, 06:45 AM	#18
wozza Mayor Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: uk, devon Posts: 886	ok thanks for the usefull info dazza __________________ Betta lifespace 16lts OH YEAH!!!! going live in sept

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