Two Niger Triggers in one tank?

Justler · 08-16-2001, 05:42 PM

What do you guys think about putting two Niger Triggers in one 55 gal FO tank. I already have one Niger in the Tank and a Blue Throat Trigger... The Bluethroat trigger is kind of boring. What else could I put in with the three fish I have (Niger Trigger, Blue Throat Trigger, and True Percula Clown). The fish that are in my tank now get along perfectly fine and never harm each other. Any recommendations? I just resetup my tank at work. Thanks guys!

jwtrojan44 · 08-17-2001, 01:09 AM

Hi Justler; Now I just got into it a couple days ago about a similar topic, but I've never backed away from principal so here goes. I believe that your courting disaster with your current stocking levels, let alone adding another niger to an already overcrowded tank. There are many, myself included who feel a 55 gallon tank is too small for anything but a small juvenile trigger. You didn't say how large the fish are now but if they're approaching adult size, they need a much bigger tank. To add another trigger is going to cause a lot of problems. The overcrowding will ultimately lead to increased stress and outright aggression, maybe not right away but it wil happen. I also would think that clowns days are numbered with the triggers. nigers are reportedly peaceful as far as triggers go, but there are many people who have had them that will attest to how quickly they can turn nasty. Personally, I'd not add another trigger, and maybe get rid of one of the ones you have. don't forget that a full grown niger will be about half the length of your tank. way too much fish for a 55. JWT

Triggers · 08-17-2001, 01:25 PM

I wouldnt get rid on nothing.
i'm assuming your fish are on the smaller side.
I actually never thought about mixing same species triggers.
I like the idea of the Nigers though. if yours is small you could try to add another and if things dont work bring him back.
if things do work and even with your current niger you will need to accomodate their rather large potential. that could be a few years down the road though.
I was thinking of getting another picasso but instead might try the niger pairing. already have one. my tank is a bit larger than yours right now 125.

Justler · 08-17-2001, 02:04 PM

Triggers,

You were right in assuming that my triggers are small. The Niger is approximately 3", and the Bluethroat is 4". I had a Picasso, but he didn't make it in the tank move. I think another Niger would be perfectly fine, i'm just unsure whether or not the two nigers would react badly to each other. They were all fine even with the picasso in there some time ago. Although, the triggers did eat two of my scooter blennies :-) *EVIL* hehe.

Triggers · 08-17-2001, 02:15 PM

Justler-
I may buy another this weekend if i can find a small one so I can let you know the initial reaction .
I'm thinking that because they hang out together in the wild there may not be much of a problem. but with respect to tank size in both cases, more so in your case, that the only problem could be room, but if there small it may be fine.
just need to make sure that each one will have access to their own sleeping spot to wedge into.
thanks for the idea, not sure why i didnt think of it.
i did think once though of adding two hawaiian black finned triggers together, but they grow very large and are much more active than the niger. I had one at the time and donated him to the NE Aquarium last year. there usually only available at large sizes.
talk to ya later this weekend.

chromis · 08-19-2001, 06:38 PM

I have also noticed the way niger triggers hang out together in the wild. I have seen this on numerous nature documentaries. These seem to be a very docile trigger compared to some.

Triggers · 08-19-2001, 11:37 PM

well could not find one this weekend.
only saw tiny baby ones like <1".
put an order in for next thursday. we'll see what comes in
and price. usually can get them for around $20.

Triggers · 08-29-2001, 11:09 PM

Niger didnt come in on order.
Petco had 4 different species but no Nigers.
have to wait till next week as just bought 2 fish today . couldnt sneak them in the tank this time so wife wasnt to happy with the added expense.

mastaJ · 08-29-2001, 11:58 PM

At work we put a niger in with a niger thats was in there for one week, it didn't work. Within an hour the new one was gasping for air and torn to crap. Granted the tank was only a 30g I wouldn't try it. HTH, IME

Triggers · 08-30-2001, 09:38 AM

i probably wouldnt try it in a 30 gal either.

Justler · 08-31-2001, 02:30 PM

I wouldn't try that either.... two triggers definetly wouldn't do well in a 30gal... unless you had some massive filtration :-)

Triggers · 09-02-2001, 09:33 AM

i am putting this on hold for now. my niger hasnt been acting normal lately, not eating that much seems like he is having trouble with his jaw or something.

mastaJ · 09-04-2001, 05:46 PM

Just for the record the 30g was one part of a 100g system so there was enough filtration and we don't keep triggers longterm typically only a week, so...it wouldn't have been forever and my point was that a 55 isn't that much bigger than a 30g...

We only tried it because we just got a new shipment and we wanted to limit the exposure...

Triggers · 09-05-2001, 10:27 AM

[quote]Originally posted by mastaJ
my point was that a 55 isn't that much bigger than a 30g...

yeah, i guess your right, its only 83% bigger.

mastaJ · 09-05-2001, 07:18 PM

Allow me to clarify again...

30g - 36"x8"x12"

55g - 48"x13"x21" (http://freshaquarium.about.com/libra...htm?once=true&)

Even though it is 83% bigger by volume I'm sure pretty much everyone will agree that territory wise fish defend it by "yardage" (where they eat, sleep, live, etc.)

Ok...I'm done with this topic, I wouldn't try adding another niger...Sorry for offending you, just trying to help...

slapshot · 09-07-2001, 02:06 PM

Since there are some trigger people here, I have a question. We have a niger trigger in our 90 gal FO tank. It looks like he has white stuff in his mouth and doesn't eat like he used to. He usually would eat silversides and about anything the others ate. But now he will barely eat flake food, and he isn' eating very much of that. He also is hiding alot more than he used to, I don't know if it is related, but noticed that behavior about the same time. Could this be ick??? If so, how can I treat it in a tank with live rock, DSB, a lionfish, nasso tang, and a snowflake eel.
Thanks, the help is always appreciated!!!

08-16-2001, 05:42 PM	#1
Justler Citizen Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 162	Two Niger Triggers in one tank? What do you guys think about putting two Niger Triggers in one 55 gal FO tank. I already have one Niger in the Tank and a Blue Throat Trigger... The Bluethroat trigger is kind of boring. What else could I put in with the three fish I have (Niger Trigger, Blue Throat Trigger, and True Percula Clown). The fish that are in my tank now get along perfectly fine and never harm each other. Any recommendations? I just resetup my tank at work. Thanks guys! __________________ Say somethin you know they might attack you for.

08-17-2001, 01:09 AM	#2
jwtrojan44 Citizen Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: pa. Posts: 140	Hi Justler; Now I just got into it a couple days ago about a similar topic, but I've never backed away from principal so here goes. I believe that your courting disaster with your current stocking levels, let alone adding another niger to an already overcrowded tank. There are many, myself included who feel a 55 gallon tank is too small for anything but a small juvenile trigger. You didn't say how large the fish are now but if they're approaching adult size, they need a much bigger tank. To add another trigger is going to cause a lot of problems. The overcrowding will ultimately lead to increased stress and outright aggression, maybe not right away but it wil happen. I also would think that clowns days are numbered with the triggers. nigers are reportedly peaceful as far as triggers go, but there are many people who have had them that will attest to how quickly they can turn nasty. Personally, I'd not add another trigger, and maybe get rid of one of the ones you have. don't forget that a full grown niger will be about half the length of your tank. way too much fish for a 55. JWT __________________ It aint' pretty being easy.

08-17-2001, 02:04 PM	#4
Justler Citizen Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 162	Triggers, You were right in assuming that my triggers are small. The Niger is approximately 3", and the Bluethroat is 4". I had a Picasso, but he didn't make it in the tank move. I think another Niger would be perfectly fine, i'm just unsure whether or not the two nigers would react badly to each other. They were all fine even with the picasso in there some time ago. Although, the triggers did eat two of my scooter blennies :-) EVIL hehe. __________________ Say somethin you know they might attack you for.

08-29-2001, 11:58 PM	#9
mastaJ Council Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 294	At work we put a niger in with a niger thats was in there for one week, it didn't work. Within an hour the new one was gasping for air and torn to crap. Granted the tank was only a 30g I wouldn't try it. HTH, IME __________________ -mastaJ

08-31-2001, 02:30 PM	#11
Justler Citizen Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Frederick, MD Posts: 162	I wouldn't try that either.... two triggers definetly wouldn't do well in a 30gal... unless you had some massive filtration :-) __________________ Say somethin you know they might attack you for.

08-17-2001, 01:25 PM	#3
Triggers Mayor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 636	I wouldnt get rid on nothing. i'm assuming your fish are on the smaller side. I actually never thought about mixing same species triggers. I like the idea of the Nigers though. if yours is small you could try to add another and if things dont work bring him back. if things do work and even with your current niger you will need to accomodate their rather large potential. that could be a few years down the road though. I was thinking of getting another picasso but instead might try the niger pairing. already have one. my tank is a bit larger than yours right now 125.

08-17-2001, 02:15 PM	#5
Triggers Mayor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 636	Justler- I may buy another this weekend if i can find a small one so I can let you know the initial reaction . I'm thinking that because they hang out together in the wild there may not be much of a problem. but with respect to tank size in both cases, more so in your case, that the only problem could be room, but if there small it may be fine. just need to make sure that each one will have access to their own sleeping spot to wedge into. thanks for the idea, not sure why i didnt think of it. i did think once though of adding two hawaiian black finned triggers together, but they grow very large and are much more active than the niger. I had one at the time and donated him to the NE Aquarium last year. there usually only available at large sizes. talk to ya later this weekend.

08-19-2001, 06:38 PM	#6
chromis Mayor Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Lynchburg, Virginia Posts: 518	I have also noticed the way niger triggers hang out together in the wild. I have seen this on numerous nature documentaries. These seem to be a very docile trigger compared to some.

08-19-2001, 11:37 PM	#7
Triggers Mayor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 636	well could not find one this weekend. only saw tiny baby ones like <1". put an order in for next thursday. we'll see what comes in and price. usually can get them for around $20.

08-29-2001, 11:09 PM	#8
Triggers Mayor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 636	Niger didnt come in on order. Petco had 4 different species but no Nigers. have to wait till next week as just bought 2 fish today . couldnt sneak them in the tank this time so wife wasnt to happy with the added expense.

08-30-2001, 09:38 AM	#10
Triggers Mayor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 636	i probably wouldnt try it in a 30 gal either.

09-02-2001, 09:33 AM	#12
Triggers Mayor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 636	i am putting this on hold for now. my niger hasnt been acting normal lately, not eating that much seems like he is having trouble with his jaw or something.

09-04-2001, 05:46 PM	#13
mastaJ Council Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 294	Just for the record the 30g was one part of a 100g system so there was enough filtration and we don't keep triggers longterm typically only a week, so...it wouldn't have been forever and my point was that a 55 isn't that much bigger than a 30g... We only tried it because we just got a new shipment and we wanted to limit the exposure... __________________ -mastaJ

09-05-2001, 10:27 AM	#14
Triggers Mayor Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 636	[quote]Originally posted by mastaJ my point was that a 55 isn't that much bigger than a 30g... yeah, i guess your right, its only 83% bigger. Last edited by Triggers; 09-05-2001 at 10:29 AM.

09-05-2001, 07:18 PM	#15
mastaJ Council Join Date: May 2001 Location: Lakeville, MN Posts: 294	Allow me to clarify again... 30g - 36"x8"x12" 55g - 48"x13"x21" (http://freshaquarium.about.com/libra...htm?once=true&) Even though it is 83% bigger by volume I'm sure pretty much everyone will agree that territory wise fish defend it by "yardage" (where they eat, sleep, live, etc.) Ok...I'm done with this topic, I wouldn't try adding another niger...Sorry for offending you, just trying to help... __________________ -mastaJ

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09-07-2001, 02:06 PM	#16
slapshot Just Moved In Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 16	Since there are some trigger people here, I have a question. We have a niger trigger in our 90 gal FO tank. It looks like he has white stuff in his mouth and doesn't eat like he used to. He usually would eat silversides and about anything the others ate. But now he will barely eat flake food, and he isn' eating very much of that. He also is hiding alot more than he used to, I don't know if it is related, but noticed that behavior about the same time. Could this be ick??? If so, how can I treat it in a tank with live rock, DSB, a lionfish, nasso tang, and a snowflake eel. Thanks, the help is always appreciated!!!

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