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Old 07-22-2003, 12:25 PM   #1
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Flood!!!

The other day I returned home to find there had been a pwr outage. My refugium had siphoned (via the pwr heads) into the main tank, overflowing it, and flooding resulted.

I realize now that I must place the inflow tube at a level right below the water surface to break the siphon should another outage occur.

The refugium is a 30 gal no baffles rubbermaid with a DSB, live rock, and various macroalgaes.

For me, it's primary purpose is critter production, secondary purpose - photosynthesis.

Placing the inflow tube (diagonally to the overflow) at allmost the same level as the overflow is going to is going to markedly reduce the turbity of the 'fuge. I do not want this - I want enough water agitation to aid critter migration into the main tank. I do not wish to put a critter-chopping pwr head in the 'fuge.

Original placement of the inflow tube was perpendicular to the sand bed, 2 inches above, and diagonally to the overflow. I felt this provided the most water movement possible.

Finally!!! My Question!

Is this my only option? Do one-way check valves exist, like they do for air tubing? How can I increase water movement?

I am allready pumping as much water into the 'fuge as I think is possible.

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Old 07-22-2003, 06:34 PM   #2
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I can't really help you with your problem,I am having a hard time getting a mental image of what you have going on,BUT, It is my understanding that fuges are suppose to have a slow flow and not quite so much water movement.I hav'nt read about any recommended gph figures,but everyone reccomends a slow flow through the fuge.
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Old 07-22-2003, 08:16 PM   #3
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I can't really help you with your problem,I am having a hard time getting a mental image of what you have going on,BUT, It is my understanding that fuges are suppose to have a slow flow and not quite so much water movement.I hav'nt read about any recommended gph figures,but everyone reccomends a slow flow through the fuge.
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I don't thing I can 'splain my set-up much better than what I have allready - a specific question would be helpfull.

I'm hip to the low-flow concept. I won't be increasing the gph, just reducing the turbulance due to repositioning of the inlet flow from just above the sand bed to just below the waterline.

Short of moving up to a larger pwr head(which might defeat the low-flow concept), my question remains;

Does a check-valve exist for saltwater? Is there a better way to prevent flooding from pwr outages?

I just don't like the idea of going from my existing low-flow(125-150gph) to even a lower flow.

I'm not even really addressing the turnover rate: internal 'fuge turbulance is what I wish to maintain. To my way of thinking, reducing turbulance will reduce critter export to the main tank - maybe I'm thinking wrong.
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Old 07-23-2003, 08:00 PM   #4
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just drill a small hole in your pipe or tubing slightly under the surface of your fuge, it will suck air and break the siphon, no flood
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just drill a small hole in your pipe or tubing slightly under the surface of your fuge, it will suck air and break the siphon, no flood
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Thank you, Jeff, thats the best ans yet.That will cause a drop in water pressure, but I guess I can live with that!
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hey, I did not see before, we are kind of close I'm in Monroe, frag trades?
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Old 07-24-2003, 11:16 AM   #7
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Blaster,

In answer to your other question, yes you can get check valves for Saltwater. Here is one that I've used in the past:

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Thank you, Doug, that was just what I was looking for. Jeff, I don't have any frags as yet, but someday...
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