[rdursch]

Thinking of building my own fuge. One question I can't seem to answer is, Do I need and out flow pump?

The tank is not plumbed, so it is up and over the back. I have read a lot on building your own. Doesn't seem to difficult and I am handy. That was the only question that is baffleing me.

Thanks for any and all assistance!!

Oh, Is a 30 gallon split up for a fuge big enough for a 90 tank?

[Reefland]

Let me make sure I am understanding your post correctly. You want to place a 30 gallon refugium above the tank and need to know if you need a pump to move water from the refugium to the display?

The best way to do it is to gravity feed the water from the refugium to the tank which would require a hole to be drilled near the top of the refugium tank. Pump water using a small pump from the display to the refugium and then let it gravity feed through the bulkhead placed at the top of the refugium back to the display.

[rdursch]

Originally Posted by Reefland

Let me make sure I am understanding your post correctly. You want to place a 30 gallon refugium above the tank and need to know if you need a pump to move water from the refugium to the display?

No, I will place it under or at least lower than the main tank. Some of the fugies' I have seem are very pretty in their own right and thought I would locate it so I could see it. If not at leats under the tank.

[rdursch]

Still need to know if I need a pump to get water to refuge, if it is lower than the main. I don't think so, but I want to make sure. All of the DYI stuff really hasn't answered the question.

TIA

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by rdursch

Still need to know if I need a pump to get water to refuge, if it is lower than the main. I don't think so, but I want to make sure. All of the DYI stuff really hasn't answered the question.

TIA

Water from the main display tank should flow by gravity to your refugium below. You didn't say if you have a sump or not???

If you have a sump, then the water that drains from the main display tank down to the sump would also drain to the refugium. If the refugium is not part of the sump, then you would need a plumbing line T'd off from the main drain with a ball valve so that you can regulate the amount of water that is diverted to the sump. The water leaving the refugium will have to drain by gravity into the sump where it can be returned to the main display tank.

If you do not have a sump, then the water from the main display tank needs to drain by gravity down to the refugium where it must be returned by a return pump to the main tank.

[rdursch]

Originally Posted by Ninong

Water from the main display tank should flow by gravity to your refugium below. You didn't say if you have a sump or not???

No Sump. Thank you!! I am doing a DYI from the link I got here. Do I need HOT overflow for the gravity feed in order to regulate flow or somethin else? I want the fugie because I don't like all of the equipment hanging off of the back. Plus, from what I have read from here and other sources, it is much better for a reef.

Thank you again!

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by rdursch

No Sump. Thank you!! I am doing a DYI from the link I got here. Do I need HOT overflow for the gravity feed in order to regulate flow or somethin else? I want the fugie because I don't like all of the equipment hanging off of the back. Plus, from what I have read from here and other sources, it is much better for a reef.

Thank you again!

Yes, you will need some sort of HOT overflow if you intend putting your refugium below your display tank. The flow is regulated by the pump that you use in the refugium to return water to the main tank. I must warn you that there are risks of flooding associated with this sort of setup. If your HOT overflow should ever fail, your main display tank will overflow and your refugium will be pumped dry.

If I were setting up a refugium without a sump, I believe I would want to set it up so that the water level in the refugium is at least slightly higher than the water level in the display tank so that the refugium gravity flows back to the display tank. In a setup such as that you would not have to have a HOT overflow. You would simply have a small pump inside the display tank pumping water to the refugium.

[rdursch]

Ninong,

This is the link to the DIY fugie I have been considering.

http://www.sjpdesigns.com/NewReef/sumphowto.htm

Looking at the drawing, is that the sump where the skimmer goes? I like the layout and looks of it. Also, I will be using a 30g for the basis of this thing. Big enough for a 90g main?

I hope someday to have the knowledge that you do!

Thank you ever so much for all of your help!!!

[Ninong]

Yes, that is a combination sump/refugium. Yes, a 30-gal would be adequate for a 90-gal tank.

[Reefland]

Using the sump/refugium combo, you are going to need a drilled tank or a HOT overflow to move water from the display to the sump/refugium and then a return pump pushing water back to the display.

[MISTERFIXIT]

Originally Posted by rdursch

No Sump. Thank you!! I am doing a DYI from the link I got here. Do I need HOT overflow for the gravity feed in order to regulate flow or somethin else? I want the fugie because I don't like all of the equipment hanging off of the back. Plus, from what I have read from here and other sources, it is much better for a reef.

Thank you again!

Hey check these out!!

Marc

[Sueet]

Originally Posted by MISTERFIXIT

Hey check these out!!

These.... what??

[MISTERFIXIT]

Originally Posted by Sueet

These.... what??

I'm trying to upload pics of my diy sump/fuge.
Damn thing never works right or I'm screwin somethin up!!!

Anybody have any suggestions which??Or better what I'm doin wrong??
Marc

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by MISTERFIXIT

I'm trying to upload pics of my diy sump/fuge.
Damn thing never works right or I'm screwin somethin up!!!

Anybody have any suggestions which??Or better what I'm doin wrong??
Marc

We have to ask Scott (Reefland). I can never figure out how to post pictures either. Every time I think I have it figured out, he changes the board again and then I have to learn a new way to do it. I'm too old to learn new tricks!

[MISTERFIXIT]

Originally Posted by Ninong

We have to ask Scott (Reefland). I can never figure out how to post pictures either. Every time I think I have it figured out, he changes the board again and then I have to learn a new way to do it. I'm too old to learn new tricks!

Thanx,

I've uploaded according to the control panel info,but where the h@#%$
are they goin.It reads in progress????


thanx again Gene,
Marc

[Ninong]

Originally Posted by MISTERFIXIT

Thanx,

I've uploaded according to the control panel info,but where the h@#%$
are they goin.It reads in progress????


thanx again Gene,
Marc

I'm George. Zhenya is Gene.

I have no earthly idea where they are going but I sent a message to Scott telling him he was needed over here.

[MISTERFIXIT]

Originally Posted by Reefland

Using the sump/refugium combo, you are going to need a drilled tank or a HOT overflow to move water from the display to the sump/refugium and then a return pump pushing water back to the display.

Can you grab the pics I loaded for the sump/fuge and put em up??
apparently I'm doin somethin wrong.

Marc

[MISTERFIXIT]

Originally Posted by Ninong

I'm George. Zhenya is Gene.

I have no earthly idea where they are going but I sent a message to Scott telling him he was needed over here.

OOOPS!!!

Sorry George!! My bad!!

Marc

[Reefland]

Marc,

There are 2 ways to upload pictures for use at Reefland.com.

When you click on reply, just below the box that you type your message, there is a link to Manage Attachments. Click this link and in the new window that opens, there are 5 browse buttons. Click the top one and find the image on your computer that you want to upload, select it and click ok. Once you have selected the picture(s) that you want to upload, click the upload button. After clicking the upload button, the text will pop up that says "Uploading - Please Wait". When the upload process is done, you will see the file name you upload and then click the Close This Window button. Type your reply and submit it and the images will be uploaded.

The other method is to use the gallery, the above method is a bit easier though.

Scott Z.