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Old 01-22-2005, 02:42 PM   #1
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Partial Saltwater Changers

I have been working with a salt water tank for a year now and still learn something about everyday. I try and do partial changes once a month, this would be 25% change. I have heard and read different things. Examples would be to do 5% every week or 10% every two weeks. Is there a best way? I have also been told that if you maintain your tank and keep everything in balance there is no need to make partial changes. I have just set up a system to allow me to maintain about 15 gallons all the time that matches the water in my tank. Is this over kill?
Thanks for any advice or comments.
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Old 01-22-2005, 03:00 PM   #2
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I have a 75g tank and I change 15g every week. everthing in there seems to like it just fine.
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Hi TankU, Welcome to Reefland!

There are a lot of opions on water changes so let me see if I can add some rationale to my opinion.

I think performing more frequent, lower quantity water changes are more effective than larger, less frequent changes. Water changes help to replenish trace elements that most do not add on a regular basis. They also help to remove pollutants and to help with water clarity. Replacing these elements, removing the pollutants and increasing water clarity on a more frequent basis is more effective and better for your animals than doing it less frequently on a larger basis.

It's just like adding cacium supplements to your tank. You can add them daily to maintain a certain level of calcium in your tank, or you can add a larger amount of a less frequent basis which will raise the calcium for that short time, but long term is not effective.
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Old 01-22-2005, 06:43 PM   #4
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Thanks szwedo. I will take this advice and put it to use. Is it necessary to vacuum the crush coral bottom that is in my tank with every change?

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Old 01-22-2005, 06:49 PM   #5
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Thanks Scott Z. I guess it is like any kind of diet small portions over a period of time is better than large portions at random. I will put this practice to use. How often is it needed to vacuum the crush coral bottom in my tank?
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Hi TankU, Welcome to Reefland!

There are a lot of opions on water changes so let me see if I can add some rationale to my opinion.

I think performing more frequent, lower quantity water changes are more effective than larger, less frequent changes. Water changes help to replenish trace elements that most do not add on a regular basis. They also help to remove pollutants and to help with water clarity. Replacing these elements, removing the pollutants and increasing water clarity on a more frequent basis is more effective and better for your animals than doing it less frequently on a larger basis.

It's just like adding cacium supplements to your tank. You can add them daily to maintain a certain level of calcium in your tank, or you can add a larger amount of a less frequent basis which will raise the calcium for that short time, but long term is not effective.
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Old 01-24-2005, 10:12 PM   #6
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How often is it needed to vacuum the crush coral bottom in my tank?
As often as possible - I'd do it with most every water change, at least in sections, just be sure to cover everywhere IMO.

I'd follow with Reefland's points - would agree completely. I've followed somewhat varying w/c policies in the past an am happiest with weekly changes, maybe skip a week every other month.

My sps tank that I baby gets regular 10-20% water changes weekly. It's only a 58g tank, so while that's still a lot of water, it's more than I'd be changing with a much larger tank. While from time to time I do skip a week, I've found my tank chemistry is normally more stable with more frequent water changes. Any over-addition that week of Ca, or Alk ... is slightly abated by the water change and closer to when my testing can note that I'm dosing heavy [testing every 2-3 weeks of late, I've been lazy].

My 40g softie tank and 60g tub both get slightly less waterchanges, 5-10% every ten days on average. As neither of them normally I suppliment Ca/Alk [low demand] - the water changes seem to take care of supplimentation for me.

I like using white buckets for my water changes. Just gauging the `yellowing' through a full bucket gives me a rough estimate of how my water is doing [a good clarity estimate]. Often my 58g's w/c volume will be determined by the first 5 gallon bucket's clarity when looking at the white bottom. If it's quite clear ... I normally call it good. If not, I'll make it a `two bucket' day ... not scientific, but just a make-do method of judging.

Of course, when siphoning the bottom, that bucket idea won't work [always opaque].

I will say though - my newly mixed water has normally been mixing for 3-4 days, at temperature and `dead on' with my refractometer. [or will adjust to suit each tank if they vary a bit] Given this - I feel comfortable with 20% water changes, though I might not recommend them to everyone [including myself maybe a year and a half ago, before I got my `mixing system' down]. Do keep in mind the accuracy of all instruments and `stability time' of the new water when deciding % of change.

Anyway - it's the morning and I ramble ... hope it made enough sense to help Ask more if not, happy to share what seems to work for me, right now.
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As often as possible - I'd do it with most every water change, at least in sections, just be sure to cover everywhere IMO.

I'd follow with Reefland's points - would agree completely. I've followed somewhat varying w/c policies in the past an am happiest with weekly changes, maybe skip a week every other month.

My sps tank that I baby gets regular 10-20% water changes weekly. It's only a 58g tank, so while that's still a lot of water, it's more than I'd be changing with a much larger tank. While from time to time I do skip a week, I've found my tank chemistry is normally more stable with more frequent water changes. Any over-addition that week of Ca, or Alk ... is slightly abated by the water change and closer to when my testing can note that I'm dosing heavy [testing every 2-3 weeks of late, I've been lazy].

My 40g softie tank and 60g tub both get slightly less waterchanges, 5-10% every ten days on average. As neither of them normally I suppliment Ca/Alk [low demand] - the water changes seem to take care of supplimentation for me.

I like using white buckets for my water changes. Just gauging the `yellowing' through a full bucket gives me a rough estimate of how my water is doing [a good clarity estimate]. Often my 58g's w/c volume will be determined by the first 5 gallon bucket's clarity when looking at the white bottom. If it's quite clear ... I normally call it good. If not, I'll make it a `two bucket' day ... not scientific, but just a make-do method of judging.

Of course, when siphoning the bottom, that bucket idea won't work [always opaque].

I will say though - my newly mixed water has normally been mixing for 3-4 days, at temperature and `dead on' with my refractometer. [or will adjust to suit each tank if they vary a bit] Given this - I feel comfortable with 20% water changes, though I might not recommend them to everyone [including myself maybe a year and a half ago, before I got my `mixing system' down]. Do keep in mind the accuracy of all instruments and `stability time' of the new water when deciding % of change.

Anyway - it's the morning and I ramble ... hope it made enough sense to help Ask more if not, happy to share what seems to work for me, right now.
Thanks middlemark. I had been doing regular changes since starting my tank but no real set schedule. I may have gone 5 to 8 weeks with our change and seem to be doing ok. I have recently went to changing every two weeks and every thing seems to be happier or maybe I feel better about my tank (or both). I have recently set up a mixing system myself. Up to a couple of weeks ago it was hit and miss for me. Now with a power head, heater, thermometer, and a refractometer, my water changes are much more consistent and I feel more at ease making those changes. I was curious to how ofter to vacuum the bottom because I have heard some say never do it due to the bottom being a living filter. Some say just to skim the top portion of the crush coral. I to use a white bucket labeled for salt water only just to check for the clarity of my water.
Again thanks for the feed back for I am still new at this.
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