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Old 01-09-2006, 10:16 PM   #21
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Well accoding to AGA the overflows are rated at 600GPH using a rated 2,400 GPH Pump at a 5 food head.

As I will have dual overflows in the tank I can plan for 1200. Based on that should I assumed double on the pump as well for max flow?

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Old 01-10-2006, 09:03 AM   #22
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Well accoding to AGA the overflows are rated at 600GPH using a rated 2,400 GPH Pump at a 5 food head.

As I will have dual overflows in the tank I can plan for 1200. Based on that should I assumed double on the pump as well for max flow?

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I am not quite sure what you are trying to say, but for a frame of reference, I installed a Mag-Drive 950 on an AGA 65 with one overflow and it ran well. Good flow with little noise.
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Old 01-10-2006, 11:01 AM   #23
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Hell im not sure what im trying to say either but here is what is says on AGA's website..

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Aquariums up to 110 gallons are fitted with one MegaFlow™ Overflow and are rated for a maximum flow through of 600 G.P.H.
(Using a rated 2,400 G.P.H. pump at a 5 foot head).
Aquariums over 110 gallons are fitted with two MegaFlow™ Overflows and are rated for a maximum flow through of 1,200 G.P.H.

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Im a little confused on that myself.

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Old 01-10-2006, 02:27 PM   #24
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might be to late for this but this a link to a DIY guy who made a CLS over top of hit tank so if it leaks it leaks into the tank, anyway i cant describe it as well as he does and he has pictures to help out.

http://themantledmonster.thereeftank.com/cpics.html
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Old 01-10-2006, 04:15 PM   #25
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Neat idea!
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Old 01-10-2006, 09:23 PM   #26
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Interesting for sure.
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I was doing some reading on different setups and saw some with the skimmer before the sump.

Any advantages of this?
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Old 01-11-2006, 07:37 PM   #28
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The skimmer will allegedly remove more crap and keep it out of the sump if you do it that way....although I've also heard that skimmers work better with lower levels of crap in the water... go figure.
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Did I say "crap"? I meant to say detruitus. ...or was it disolved organic compounds?
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Old 01-17-2006, 10:55 PM   #30
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Made a decision and have decided to go with the Sequence Dart.

For a couple of reasons, flow and efficiency. I broke down about 10 different pump combination and compared everything I could think of.

Amps, Watts, Warranty,Flow, DB, etc.. and the Dart came out pretty darn good in all categories. If anyone wants to see the chart I would be happy to share.

With that said, its now onto lighting!!!

On my current 75 I have PC's about 260W worth... Should I add on to my PC's and through some 96W'ers in the new setup to bring the it up where it needs to be or should I consider MH, or a combo?

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Old 01-17-2006, 11:00 PM   #31
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I vote for MH + actinic PCs.
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Ok, Now keep in mind that my setup is more on the lines of a FOWLR then a full reff and I don't expect to have more then 200lbs of LR in the tank and a few hardy corals. Nothing much more then that.

Jack, if it were me I'd add 3 MH's and use the PC's for actinics. I hate to suggest too much lighting because your doing mostly FOWLR. Maybe 3x175 watters. If you feel you might go with a full blown reef then I'd go 250,s.. Keep in mind that with 250 watt MH's you MIGHT need to add a chiller.


The Dart is a great choice, remember that if you reduce the pipe size you reduce the flow. These low pressure pumps really loose a LOT of flow when you reduce the pipe size.
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Well there is a good chance it will move into that direction, as I am already planning on alot of live rock and have aquired a few frags.. LOL

I was thinking about the three MH's with the PC's for actinics. Two of the PC's I already have so I could probrably just change the buld of the other two and make those actinics as well.

With the 210 I think I need atleast 600W of light to just keep some stuff growing is that correct? Also, do the actinics count against that wattage?

On the pump I plan to run full i/o size all the way up to the tank and only reduce at the last minute if necessary. I have read that doing that can help in the pressure lose. Correct?


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With the 210 I think I need atleast 600W of light to just keep some stuff growing is that correct? Also, do the actinics count against that wattage?
Watts per gal doesn't really mean much, You could keep acros in a 4000 gal tank under a 400MH bulb, then again you would have a hard time keeping them in a 55 gal tank using 440 watts of VHO's..Going by the size of your tank I would suggest 3x250 watt MH's. I've used PC's and VHO's in the past but their kind of a waste. MH's have always been more then enough for my tanks.

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On the pump I plan to run full i/o size all the way up to the tank and only reduce at the last minute if necessary. I have read that doing that can help in the pressure lose. Correct?


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It will help a little but reducing the output will still drop the flow. I'd try and keep it at least 1"....
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I think people sometimes mis-understand what happens when you reduce the pipe diameter, it only increases VELOCITY, not volume. THat being said, I would too recommend at least a 1" return, better yet use a "T" and have 2 1" outputs from the 2" line.

I have been considering the Dart myself, it looks like a great deal. By the way one of our sponsors has them on sale now.
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I like the 2" T scenario... I will look into doing that.

Who has it on sale?
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