filter system

jureprek · 07-23-2001, 08:13 AM

What do you think of this system which i intend to buy.

The filtration system reef 1000 is designed for the use in a cabinet. It contains in a compact space all elements, that are necessary for the successful maintenance of a modern reef aquarium - without any compromises. The focal point of the water treatment is protein skimming. The reef 1.000 consists of a filter sump, 90 x 36 x 35 cm (36 x 14,5 x 14 inches), with mechanical filter chamber with sponge. From here, the water flows via two venturi pumps into both Turboflotor 1.000, with their connected trickle filters. The other components are the Nitratereductor, the Calcium Reactor and the Niveaustat, a storage tank for topping up the tank.

**Ninong** · 07-23-2001, 12:55 PM

Hi jureprek ~

It appears to be a very well designed, very compact, all-inclusive hi-tech system for maintaining water quality in a reef tank. This approach to reef tank filtration is representative of one branch of the German hobby at this time. There are other methods that do not rely on quite as much "equipment" to accomplish the same ends.

I doubt that you will find that any of the members of this board have that particular Aqua-Medic system. That system employs two Aqua-Medic Turboflotor 1000 skimmers to handle the skimming chores but it also incorporates features that are not currently in vogue in the U.S. reefkeeping community: wet/dry trickle filters and mechanical filtration. The way that it overcomes the "disadvantages" of those two filtration methods is with the addition of a nitrate reductor--something that is not at all common over here.

In the U.S. it is more common practice to rely on the live rock and a deep (10-15 cm) fine particle live sand bed in lieu of the wet/dry trickle filter and the mechanical filter (sponge). The main reason hobbyists over here avoid wet/dry trickle filters and any form of mechanical filtration is because they are perceived as adding to the nitrate problem in the tank. The way that the filter you are considering overcomes these perceived handicaps is with the inclusion of the nitrate reductor.

My opinion is that it is possible to maintain water quality without quite that much equipment if you have lots of live rock and a nice deep fine grain live sand bed (with a good skimmer, of course, although it is possible to eliminate the skimmer IF you are willing to set up some other method of nutrient export, such as a refugium stocked with macroalgae that is regularly harvested.)

Having said that, I would still say that if that Aqua-Medic system appeals to you, go for it! It appears to be a very well designed system that even includes the calcium reactor and automatic water topoff system in a very neat, compact package. If you do purchase it, please keep us advised as to your results.

Ninong

jureprek · 07-23-2001, 02:57 PM

Tank you ninong for a large description.

I think i will buy this system and i will report you of it's pros and cons.

bye

jp

Neal359 · 07-24-2001, 04:15 PM

it looks very COOL and VERY$$$$ aquamedic is a good company and makes a good skimmer i would get one but the $$$ of it is out of my buget i would definitaly like to see what you have to say about it when you get it. how many galons is it rated fore???

**Ninong** · 07-24-2001, 04:28 PM

Neal ~

According to the Aqua-Medic catalogue, the Reef 1000 model is rated for 1000 liters (262 gal); they also make a Reef 500 model that is rated for (surprise!) 500 liters (131 gal).

Ninong

organicreefer · 07-24-2001, 10:19 PM

looks very cool,how $much$?

**Ninong** · 07-24-2001, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by organicreefer
looks very cool,how $much$?

$1299.99 http://www.customaquatic.com/customa...bCatID=fi-stf#

I have no idea how much jureprek will be paying in Slovenia.

organicreefer · 07-24-2001, 10:32 PM

maybe i could afford one second hand.

i guess if you bought everything seperately youd pay alot more ,and it wouldnt be so neat and compact.i would guess that doesnt include pumps or a co2 bottle eh?for a reef i wouldnt bother ,but for a fo with no live rock /sand it looks awesome.

**Ninong** · 07-24-2001, 10:46 PM

No, you have to purchase a CO2 system separately, plus a return pump. Not only that, but I just got through reading the description on Custom Aquatic's site and even though the picture clearly shows the calcium reactor and the nitrate reductor, they don't mention them in the description of what's included. They also forgot to mention the automatic topoff system. Maybe they ran out of space?? One thing I did notice was that they listed two Rio 2100's to run the two T-1000 skimmers.

The German version uses Eheim pumps.

Ninong

jureprek · 07-25-2001, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ninong

$1299.99 http://www.customaquatic.com/customa...bCatID=fi-stf#

I have no idea how much jureprek will be paying in Slovenia.

I will be paying about 3000 DEM WITH PUMPS ALLREADY

jureprek · 07-25-2001, 05:51 AM

all you guys that don't know what is this sistem including visit this page and read for your self.

http://www.aqua-medic.de/index0.html

07-23-2001, 08:13 AM	#1
jureprek Just Moved In Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 18	filter system What do you think of this system which i intend to buy. The filtration system reef 1000 is designed for the use in a cabinet. It contains in a compact space all elements, that are necessary for the successful maintenance of a modern reef aquarium - without any compromises. The focal point of the water treatment is protein skimming. The reef 1.000 consists of a filter sump, 90 x 36 x 35 cm (36 x 14,5 x 14 inches), with mechanical filter chamber with sponge. From here, the water flows via two venturi pumps into both Turboflotor 1.000, with their connected trickle filters. The other components are the Nitratereductor, the Calcium Reactor and the Niveaustat, a storage tank for topping up the tank.

07-23-2001, 12:55 PM	#2
Ninong Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Louisiana Posts: 20,691	Hi jureprek ~ It appears to be a very well designed, very compact, all-inclusive hi-tech system for maintaining water quality in a reef tank. This approach to reef tank filtration is representative of one branch of the German hobby at this time. There are other methods that do not rely on quite as much "equipment" to accomplish the same ends. I doubt that you will find that any of the members of this board have that particular Aqua-Medic system. That system employs two Aqua-Medic Turboflotor 1000 skimmers to handle the skimming chores but it also incorporates features that are not currently in vogue in the U.S. reefkeeping community: wet/dry trickle filters and mechanical filtration. The way that it overcomes the "disadvantages" of those two filtration methods is with the addition of a nitrate reductor--something that is not at all common over here. In the U.S. it is more common practice to rely on the live rock and a deep (10-15 cm) fine particle live sand bed in lieu of the wet/dry trickle filter and the mechanical filter (sponge). The main reason hobbyists over here avoid wet/dry trickle filters and any form of mechanical filtration is because they are perceived as adding to the nitrate problem in the tank. The way that the filter you are considering overcomes these perceived handicaps is with the inclusion of the nitrate reductor. My opinion is that it is possible to maintain water quality without quite that much equipment if you have lots of live rock and a nice deep fine grain live sand bed (with a good skimmer, of course, although it is possible to eliminate the skimmer IF you are willing to set up some other method of nutrient export, such as a refugium stocked with macroalgae that is regularly harvested.) Having said that, I would still say that if that Aqua-Medic system appeals to you, go for it! It appears to be a very well designed system that even includes the calcium reactor and automatic water topoff system in a very neat, compact package. If you do purchase it, please keep us advised as to your results. Ninong __________________ Ninong

07-23-2001, 02:57 PM	#3
jureprek Just Moved In Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 18	Thanks Tank you ninong for a large description. I think i will buy this system and i will report you of it's pros and cons. bye jp

07-24-2001, 04:28 PM	#5
Ninong Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Louisiana Posts: 20,691	Neal ~ According to the Aqua-Medic catalogue, the Reef 1000 model is rated for 1000 liters (262 gal); they also make a Reef 500 model that is rated for (surprise!) 500 liters (131 gal). Ninong __________________ Ninong

07-24-2001, 10:46 PM	#9
Ninong Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Louisiana Posts: 20,691	No, you have to purchase a CO2 system separately, plus a return pump. Not only that, but I just got through reading the description on Custom Aquatic's site and even though the picture clearly shows the calcium reactor and the nitrate reductor, they don't mention them in the description of what's included. They also forgot to mention the automatic topoff system. Maybe they ran out of space?? One thing I did notice was that they listed two Rio 2100's to run the two T-1000 skimmers. The German version uses Eheim pumps. Ninong __________________ Ninong

07-24-2001, 04:15 PM	#4
Neal359 Mayor Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: richmond Posts: 558	it looks very COOL and VERY$$$$ aquamedic is a good company and makes a good skimmer i would get one but the $$$ of it is out of my buget i would definitaly like to see what you have to say about it when you get it. how many galons is it rated fore???

07-24-2001, 10:19 PM	#6
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	looks very cool,how $much$?

07-24-2001, 10:32 PM	#8
organicreefer Governor Join Date: May 2001 Location: Northern CA Posts: 2,171	maybe i could afford one second hand. i guess if you bought everything seperately youd pay alot more ,and it wouldnt be so neat and compact.i would guess that doesnt include pumps or a co2 bottle eh?for a reef i wouldnt bother ,but for a fo with no live rock /sand it looks awesome.

07-25-2001, 05:51 AM	#11
jureprek Just Moved In Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 18	reply all you guys that don't know what is this sistem including visit this page and read for your self. http://www.aqua-medic.de/index0.html

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