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    Question Return pump ?

    I tested the powerheads, pumps, to the used 72 gal bow front tank I boutght this weekend. All seem to operate accept the largest pump I believe is a external type for returning water from the sump to the DT. I cannot find a brand but the model number is: 9.5 B listed as Utility pump. The only other marking on this pump is : E160713.

    This pump set dry for a year or more in a garage. If it was put up wet with salt water is it possible that is just seized up and if I take the head off (6 screws) can it be service or will it just be junk.

    If I need to replace it I am thinking I need a pump for this reef tank that will put out 750 gph with a head pressure of about 8. Am I thinking correctly? Do I want a in the sump pump or another external pump if it cannot be repaired?

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    Re: Return pump ?

    One more ? please. The othe utility pump has a strainer with a foam prefilter on it. It is rather light but the labeling is unreadable. It does work and I assume from the strainer and foam prefilter mounted directly on the pump body it is a submersible pump. From its lightness I am assuming it was the pump used to supply water to the external protein skimmer. Does this make sense?

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    Re: Return pump ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterRick View Post
    I tested the powerheads, pumps, to the used 72 gal bow front tank I boutght this weekend. All seem to operate accept the largest pump I believe is a external type for returning water from the sump to the DT. I cannot find a brand but the model number is: 9.5 B listed as Utility pump. The only other marking on this pump is : E160713.

    This pump set dry for a year or more in a garage. If it was put up wet with salt water is it possible that is just seized up and if I take the head off (6 screws) can it be service or will it just be junk.

    If I need to replace it I am thinking I need a pump for this reef tank that will put out 750 gph with a head pressure of about 8. Am I thinking correctly? Do I want a in the sump pump or another external pump if it cannot be repaired?
    Out of sump pumps don't heat the water directly but do add some heat to the system while the water is running through the head unit, not as much heat as one say, in the sump. Your choice really. Most in sump (Quiet One Pump) are alot cheaper to run than the larger external ones.
    You may be able to rescue the one that seiuzed up. Most saltwater pumps use a ceramic shaft and should not corrode. But I have no idea what you have. The tali end may be toast if it sat that long in salt though. HArd to say until you crack open the beast.

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    Re: Return pump ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reefing Madness View Post
    Out of sump pumps don't heat the water directly but do add some heat to the system while the water is running through the head unit, not as much heat as one say, in the sump. Your choice really. Most in sump (Quiet One Pump) are alot cheaper to run than the larger external ones.
    You may be able to rescue the one that seiuzed up. Most saltwater pumps use a ceramic shaft and should not corrode. But I have no idea what you have. The tali end may be toast if it sat that long in salt though. HArd to say until you crack open the beast.
    I am gonna crack it open tomorrow night I think. Also I am looking at a Mag Drive submersible pump if I can not repair this one. Is 500 gph enoeph considering I have 2x 850 current pumps and a 1600 gph wave maker pump?

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    Re: Return pump ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterRick View Post
    One more ? please. The othe utility pump has a strainer with a foam prefilter on it. It is rather light but the labeling is unreadable. It does work and I assume from the strainer and foam prefilter mounted directly on the pump body it is a submersible pump. From its lightness I am assuming it was the pump used to supply water to the external protein skimmer. Does this make sense?
    Sounds like it coulda been. Or it was a submersible return. Thats whats on mine (skimmer), but, you never know.
    Last edited by Reefing Madness; 10-10-2011 at 07:40 PM.

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    Re: Return pump ?

    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterRick View Post
    I am gonna crack it open tomorrow night I think. Also I am looking at a Mag Drive submersible pump if I can not repair this one. Is 500 gph enoeph considering I have 2x 850 current pumps and a 1600 gph wave maker pump?
    No need for this one. 72 x 20 = 1440. Thats all you need for your tank, the more of course the better, but you have enough already if you ask me.
    your running 3300gph. Might split the 1600 off into 2 returns, that should split up your tank nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reefing Madness View Post
    No need for this one. 72 x 20 = 1440. Thats all you need for your tank, the more of course the better, but you have enough already if you ask me.
    your running 3300gph. Might split the 1600 off into 2 returns, that should split up your tank nicely.
    No need for which one? I need a pump to return water from the sump to the DT correct? The smaller submersible will be dedicated to the skimmer.

    The 1600 is a in the tank pump with screened cork screw type blade. I dont see how to split it. I think it was on the pulse timer that is on the tank. The return line on the tank is already split between 2 adjustable flex nozzles.

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    Re: Return pump ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reefing Madness View Post
    No need for this one. 72 x 20 = 1440. Thats all you need for your tank, the more of course the better, but you have enough already if you ask me.<br>
    your running 3300gph. Might split the 1600 off into 2 returns, that should split up your tank nicely.
    <br><br>No need for which one?&nbsp; I need a pump to return water from the sump to the DT correct?&nbsp; The smaller submersible will be dedicated to the skimmer. <br><br>The 1600 is a in the tank pump with screened&nbsp;cork screw type&nbsp;blade.&nbsp; I dont see how to split it.&nbsp;I think it was on the pulse timer that is on the tank.&nbsp; &nbsp;The return line on the tank is already split between&nbsp;2 adjustable flex nozzles.&nbsp; &nbsp;

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterRick View Post
    No need for which one? I need a pump to return water from the sump to the DT correct? The smaller submersible will be dedicated to the skimmer.

    The 1600 is a in the tank pump with screened cork screw type blade. I dont see how to split it. I think it was on the pulse timer that is on the tank. The return line on the tank is already split between 2 adjustable flex nozzles.
    Got ya. Well then, better fix that one aye.

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    Re: Return pump ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reefing Madness View Post
    Got ya. Well then, better fix that one aye.
    LOL. I pulled the head this evening and it looks pretty clean. It appears to be a mag drive pump and the seal looks ok. Hmmm. My decision is to buy a submersible pump for the return and if I get this non submersible running I will keep it as a back up or to mix water with for changes and such.

    With 2x 850 current pumps, a 1600 wave maker on a pulse timer, a small submersible running the protein skimmer I think I may be fine with a pump that delivers 400-500 gph at 4-5 ft of head pressure in a 1 inch line. Does this sound correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterRick View Post
    LOL. I pulled the head this evening and it looks pretty clean. It appears to be a mag drive pump and the seal looks ok. Hmmm. My decision is to buy a submersible pump for the return and if I get this non submersible running I will keep it as a back up or to mix water with for changes and such.

    With 2x 850 current pumps, a 1600 wave maker on a pulse timer, a small submersible running the protein skimmer I think I may be fine with a pump that delivers 400-500 gph at 4-5 ft of head pressure in a 1 inch line. Does this sound correct?
    Yup. Think you have it covered.

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    Re: Return pump ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Reefing Madness View Post
    Yup. Think you have it covered.
    Do you like The Quite One submersible? Any other suggestions.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterRick View Post
    Do you like The Quite One submersible? Any other suggestions.?
    Yes, I like those pumps. Used them in the past with absolutely no issues, and efficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reefing Madness View Post
    Yes, I like those pumps. Used them in the past with absolutely no issues, and efficient.
    The closest GPH to what I figure is the model 2200 . 594 gph fully open at 10 ft. I assume I can intall a ball valve to pull it back on the outflow side of the pump without damaging the pump. 54.99 best price I have found but with the tank in the living room quiet is important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShooterRick View Post
    The closest GPH to what I figure is the model 2200 . 594 gph fully open at 10 ft. I assume I can intall a ball valve to pull it back on the outflow side of the pump without damaging the pump. 54.99 best price I have found but with the tank in the living room quiet is important.
    Close. You install a T on the return going to the sump, there is where you install the ball valve. This is how you can dial in your return flow.

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