Amp Master 2100 or Mag Drive 2400

sher · 08-26-2001, 10:43 PM

i'm thinking about doing a closed loop on my tank. which pump should i go for. my tank is only a 40 breeder, 90% sps. TIA

souk

**golfish** · 08-27-2001, 09:34 AM

The Amp Master probably uses half the electricity

Starmstr · 08-27-2001, 07:09 PM

The amp master has a 9year factory service warrenty.

tendar · 08-27-2001, 07:55 PM

Those may be a bit big for a 40 gall tank. You would broablly end up with a tornado with that much water movement.
Any 800-1200 gph would probably more than enough for a 40.

**golfish** · 08-27-2001, 10:12 PM

tendar has a good point, another reason to get the Amp Master, it can slowed down with a gate\ball valve with no ill effect what so ever to the pump. A Mag 12 uses more electricity then a Amp Master 3000....

sher · 08-30-2001, 02:45 PM

is the ampmaster worth the extra cost? AM 2100 @ $218, AM 2700 @ $240, MD 1800 @ $98, MD 2400 @ $120. how many years will it take for me to c savings if i go with the AM? TIA

souk

sher · 08-30-2001, 02:48 PM

for got something, it will be feeding 1 3/4 ss and 2 or 3 return bar.

**golfish** · 08-30-2001, 05:21 PM

That all depends on how much you pay for electricity. IMO, its worth the extra cost. Another thing to think about is heat. The AM wont add heat to your tank like the Mag will.....

RWD · 08-31-2001, 01:02 AM

I have to agree with Golfish on this one. You get what you pay for. I returned a Mag 2400 after 3 days because of noise. It was louder than my Dolphin 3600 and it also leaked. IMO the Mag drive pumps are just glorified powerheads. If you take one apart you can see that the impeller is the same quality as a powerhead.They work ok but the larger ones are energy hogs. They don't handle back pressure well and a lot of them seep water. Good point is they are cheap and fairly reliable. Just my 2 cents,
Bob

sher · 09-02-2001, 09:10 PM

thx for the help guys. i'm going with the AM 3000(think its too much). spliting it into 3 3/4 outlet. 1 3/4 to the 3/4ss, the other 2 will b some what of a spray bar. what do u guys think? will 3 be ok or should i go for 4 3/4s return? will 3 give me any were near 3000 gal? TIA

souk

**golfish** · 09-02-2001, 09:47 PM

sounds good to me...use ball valves on all the 3/4" lines to slow or increase flow. The pump is made for this

sher · 09-02-2001, 10:44 PM

golfish, 2 more ? for u.
1)how many 3/4 outlet do u think i need to to get the max output? my plans r to run 1.5" up to the top then split it at the top to get the most flow(if it works like that).

2)what is the L,W,H.

**golfish** · 09-03-2001, 01:32 AM

Sher,

2- I think its like 11" long, 8" tall and 6" wide....around there.

1- since its a 40 gal tank I would think 3-4 would be more then enought. have you seen this.

Ironreef · 09-03-2001, 02:22 AM

I agree mag pumps are glorified powerheads. They are fair pumps but when comparing them to ampmaster and the 9yr warrenty I bet you go throught 2-3 mags in that time. If you are lucky one will last. But I bet at least 2.= This almost would have been the cost of the ampmaster.= Buying 2 pumps and electricity. Maybe not but keep thinking that and the $$ won't mean a thing. The ampmaster is a much better pump

08-26-2001, 10:43 PM	#1
sher Citizen Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: st. paul,mn Posts: 108	Amp Master 2100 or Mag Drive 2400 i'm thinking about doing a closed loop on my tank. which pump should i go for. my tank is only a 40 breeder, 90% sps. TIA souk __________________ i hate this kind of drug.

08-27-2001, 07:09 PM	#3
Starmstr Citizen Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 170	The amp master has a 9year factory service warrenty. __________________ Eat the meat and spit out the bones

08-30-2001, 02:45 PM	#6
sher Citizen Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: st. paul,mn Posts: 108	is the ampmaster worth the extra cost? AM 2100 @ $218, AM 2700 @ $240, MD 1800 @ $98, MD 2400 @ $120. how many years will it take for me to c savings if i go with the AM? TIA souk __________________ i hate this kind of drug. Last edited by sher; 08-30-2001 at 02:51 PM.

08-30-2001, 02:48 PM	#7
sher Citizen Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: st. paul,mn Posts: 108	for got something, it will be feeding 1 3/4 ss and 2 or 3 return bar. __________________ i hate this kind of drug.

09-02-2001, 09:10 PM	#10
sher Citizen Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: st. paul,mn Posts: 108	thx for the help guys. i'm going with the AM 3000(think its too much). spliting it into 3 3/4 outlet. 1 3/4 to the 3/4ss, the other 2 will b some what of a spray bar. what do u guys think? will 3 be ok or should i go for 4 3/4s return? will 3 give me any were near 3000 gal? TIA souk __________________ i hate this kind of drug.

08-27-2001, 09:34 AM	#2
golfish Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Alta Loma,Ca Posts: 2,925	The Amp Master probably uses half the electricity

08-27-2001, 07:55 PM	#4
tendar Governor Join Date: May 2000 Location: tempe,AZ Posts: 1,114	Those may be a bit big for a 40 gall tank. You would broablly end up with a tornado with that much water movement. Any 800-1200 gph would probably more than enough for a 40.

08-27-2001, 10:12 PM	#5
golfish Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Alta Loma,Ca Posts: 2,925	tendar has a good point, another reason to get the Amp Master, it can slowed down with a gate\ball valve with no ill effect what so ever to the pump. A Mag 12 uses more electricity then a Amp Master 3000....

08-30-2001, 05:21 PM	#8
golfish Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Alta Loma,Ca Posts: 2,925	That all depends on how much you pay for electricity. IMO, its worth the extra cost. Another thing to think about is heat. The AM wont add heat to your tank like the Mag will.....

08-31-2001, 01:02 AM	#9
RWD Council Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Chicago,Il USA Posts: 417	I have to agree with Golfish on this one. You get what you pay for. I returned a Mag 2400 after 3 days because of noise. It was louder than my Dolphin 3600 and it also leaked. IMO the Mag drive pumps are just glorified powerheads. If you take one apart you can see that the impeller is the same quality as a powerhead.They work ok but the larger ones are energy hogs. They don't handle back pressure well and a lot of them seep water. Good point is they are cheap and fairly reliable. Just my 2 cents, Bob

09-02-2001, 09:47 PM	#11
golfish Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Alta Loma,Ca Posts: 2,925	sounds good to me...use ball valves on all the 3/4" lines to slow or increase flow. The pump is made for this

09-02-2001, 10:44 PM	#12
sher Citizen Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: st. paul,mn Posts: 108	golfish, 2 more ? for u. 1)how many 3/4 outlet do u think i need to to get the max output? my plans r to run 1.5" up to the top then split it at the top to get the most flow(if it works like that). 2)what is the L,W,H. __________________ i hate this kind of drug. Last edited by sher; 09-03-2001 at 12:47 AM.

09-03-2001, 01:32 AM	#13
golfish Moderator Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Alta Loma,Ca Posts: 2,925	Sher, 2- I think its like 11" long, 8" tall and 6" wide....around there. 1- since its a 40 gal tank I would think 3-4 would be more then enought. have you seen this.

09-03-2001, 02:22 AM	#14
Ironreef Governor Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Pacific WA Posts: 1,220	I agree mag pumps are glorified powerheads. They are fair pumps but when comparing them to ampmaster and the 9yr warrenty I bet you go throught 2-3 mags in that time. If you are lucky one will last. But I bet at least 2.= This almost would have been the cost of the ampmaster.= Buying 2 pumps and electricity. Maybe not but keep thinking that and the $$ won't mean a thing. The ampmaster is a much better pump

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